Force User Tiers

It’s a meme, but K.

Great attempt at bait HP, thanks!

Why thank you! It must really be great given that you keep on taking it.

Imagine unironically believing a free IQ test on the internet proves anything, and shamelessly bragging about it as if I, or anyone else gives a damn. That is evidence of a true lack of intelligence.

Just concede inferiority to my superior intelligence.

Dood. I feel like you need to chill with the ego, you are the dude who claims to have a really large dick, but then you find out it's a transitioning woman underneath who hasn't gotten the surgery.

Why should I concede inferiority to someone who let's jokes fly over his head faster than Lorenzo's FTL blaster bolts?

Isv wrote:Dood. I feel like you need to chill with the ego, you are the dude who claims to have a really large dick, but then you find out it's a transitioning woman underneath who hasn't gotten the surgery.

My intelligence was brought into question, thus I had to defend myself. It’s not a hard concept to grasp.

EmperorCaedus wrote:

Isv wrote:Dood. I feel like you need to chill with the ego, you are the dude who claims to have a really large dick, but then you find out it's a transitioning woman underneath who hasn't gotten the surgery.

My intelligence was brought into question, thus I had to defend myself. It’s not a hard concept to grasp.

When you declare yourself superior to another It's not defending your intellect at that point, it's boasting. I respect the level of self confidence you have for one so unable to back any of his claims up

Isv wrote:

EmperorCaedus wrote:

Isv wrote:Dood. I feel like you need to chill with the ego, you are the dude who claims to have a really large dick, but then you find out it's a transitioning woman underneath who hasn't gotten the surgery.

My intelligence was brought into question, thus I had to defend myself. It’s not a hard concept to grasp.

When you declare yourself superior to another It's not defending your intellect at that point, it's boasting. I respect the level of self confidence you have for one so unable to back any of his claims up

Not true, I’ve heard that you single handedly brought the entire Vader brigade down due to your ludicrous claims, you shouldn’t be talking. Now people like BoD and Lorenzo are rebuilding the ruins you left them in. Quite sad.

So you are using information you "heard" as a basis for an insult? Can you verify that I was so kriff that I destroyed the Vader brigade, because I think if you asked break of dawn who was alive at that time, he would tell you that Ibsingle handedly held the Vader brigade strong and fought tooth and nail everyday defending my lord honor, this was of course before I was forced to retreat due to IRL circumstances. So I encourage you to do your research before you insult people and never start a critique with "I heard"

DC has, HP has, pretty much everyone on the forum says it. Don’t dig your hole deeper than it already is.

So my two worst enemies propagating misinformation about me is reason enough to believe?

Ant, DS0, Ziggy, and others that I shall not name.

I'll write out a tier list later.

Tier 10:

Sidious (His feats are pretty self explanatory and massively beyond anyone else in the mythos. As of TROS Sheev is lifting a fleet comprised of hundreds of ISD's while weakened with TK, one shotting the largest fleet in galactic history with force lightning, making a Rey amped by all Jedi armed with 2 lightsabers struggle to deal with his lightning ect)

Tier 9:

Luke Skywalker (Equal to Vader before 2 decades of further growth, credited with f*cking up Snoke ect)

Snoke (Supposedly equal to ROTJ Sidious according to Luke)

Tier 8:

Count Dooku (Consistently portrayed as superior to the Anakin/Obi-Wan duo circa TCW, matches Yoda, ect)

Kylo Ren (According to Snoke Kylo could have been the next Vader due to his lineage had it not been for his own inner conflict, which he rids himself of towards the end of TLJ, after which point he gathers some profound combat feats such as stomping the KOR in 10 seconds and besting Rey in single combat)

Rey (Her lineage as a Palpatine grants her equal power to Kylo, someone holistically better than Vader, albeit she's less skilled than him)

Darth Vader (Portrayed as superior to the likes of Maul and Grievous in Canon, casually stomps people like Kanan ect)

Obi-Wan Kenobi (Superiority to TCW Maul, his performance against Anakin ect, paint him at a high level)

Darth Maul (Relative to late TCW Kenobi, powerful enough to make 3 Inquisitors look like second rate sculag, portrayed as superior to Ahsoka and close to Vader ect)

Ahsoka (Portrayed as close to Vader and Maul)

Tier 7:

Savage (Superiority to Ventress during TCW)

Ventress (Relativity to both Kenobi and Anakin circa TCW)

Grievous (Relativity to Kenobi circa TCW)

Don't wanna rank anyway after this point as of now, most of them (Kanan, Ezra, GI) are kinda useless and I'm not entirely sure how to rank them tbh.

In light of RoS (spoilers):

The Father

The Son / Daughter

Tier 10
Darth Sidious (RoS) 

Tier 9
Luke Skywalker

Darth Sidious (RotS)
Yoda

Tier 8


Darth Vader
Anakin Skywalker
Snoke (still leaning towards him being sub-Vader)
Dooku

Obi Wan
Maul
Ahsoka
Kylo Ren (somewhat arbitrarily)
Rey

What's the use in cramming most characters in only three tiers and then having everybody below them as nigh impossible to place fodder? Such a ranking philosophy is not useful for what it's intended for in the first place, which is describing power levels. It's likely just a bad habit stemming from Gillard's influence. The tiers, even though they are an oversimplification, should be determined on the basis of a clear, distinct power difference.

Anyways, updating my list (not in order within tiers):

Tier One: 
Average Jedi Youngling 

Tier Two:
Average Jedi Padawan (Scales from Younglings)  
Average Knight of Ren (Arguably tier three, still undecided)

Tier Three: 
Average Jedi Knight (Scales from Padawans) 
Average Inquisitor (They were former Jedi and then received basic training in the dark side)
Ezra Bridger (Contended with Inquisitors in S2, then improved greatly during S3 and S4)

Tier Four: 
Average Jedi Master (Scales from Jedi Knights)
Cal Kestis (Scales from Inquisitors)
Grand Inquisitor (Scales from Inquisitors and Jocasta Nu)
Barriss Offee (Exceptional Jedi Knight)

Tier Five: 
Average Jedi Council member (Consistently above Jedi Masters) 
Kanan Jarrus (Beat the Grand Inquisitor, outmaneuvered an overconfident Maul and cemented his growth thanks to Bendu)
Cere Junda (Scales from Cal)
Luminara Unduli (Contended with pre-prime Ventress)

Tier Six: 
Qui-Gon Jinn (Gave Darth Maul a good fight)
Asajj Ventress (Beat Luminara and General Grievous, contended with Anakin and Obi-Wan)
Savage Opress (Beat Adi Gallia, gave trouble to Dooku)
Eeth Koth (Scales from Grievous)
Kit Fisto (Scales from Grievous)
Pong Krell (Amazing squad busting feats compared to other TCW characters)

Tier Seven: 
Anakin Skywalker (He's approaching Tier Eight, but his victory over Dooku doesn't put him conclusively above Vos, and he was matched in TK by Obi-Wan)
Obi-Wan Kenobi (Matched Anakin in Mustafar, was disadvantaged against Dooku)
Darth Tyranus (Stomped Ventress)
Darth Maul (Stomped Savage)
Ahsoka Tano (Performed well against Vader, there's hype for her pre-prime fight with Maul in TCW S7)
Quinlan Vos (Beat Dooku in a fair fight, though they were well-matched)
Leia Organa (Scales from RotJ Luke and has very good feats in the ST)
Kylo Ren (As powerful as someone who can stop a shuttle in its trucks, casually slaughtered the Knights of Ren)

Tier Eight: 
Darth Vader (Stated much more powerful than Maul and Dooku, has superior Force feats to them) 
Mace Windu (Beat RotS Sidious in sabers)

Tier Nine:
Yoda (Stalemated RotS Sidious, didn't need a lightsaber to deflect his lightning)
Snoke (Implied to be as powerful as RotJ Sidious)

Tier Ten:
Luke Skywalker (Implied to be superior to Snoke, rumoured to have pulled Star Destroyers out of the sky)

Tier Eleven:
Darth Sidious (Fleet level lightning)
Rey (Prior to her battle with Sidious she is on Kylo's tier, but then she seemingly accessed the power of all Jedi past, and there's no indication she couldn't do it again if needed)

No ordering within tiers

God tier
- The Father
- The Son
- The Daughter

Tier 10
- Palpatine

Tier 9
- Yoda
- Anakin Skywalker
- Mace Windu

Tier 8,5
- Luke Skywalker

Tier 8
- Anakin Skywalker
- Darth Vader
- Ahsoka Tano
- Obi-Wan Kenobi
- Count Dooku
- Darth Maul
- Rey
- Snoke?

Tier 7
- Kit Fisto
- Asajj Ventress
- Savage Opress
- Agen Kolar
- Saesee Tiin
- Plo Koon
- Kylo Ren
- Snoke?

Tier 6
- Luminara Unduli
- Adi Gallia

Tier 5
- Kanan Jarrus
- Barriss Offee
- Cere Junda

Tier 4
- Grand Inquisitor
- Cal Kestis
- Quality Jedi Knight

Tier 3
- Ezra Bridger
- Average Inquisitor
- Average Jedi Knight

Tier 2
- Average Padawan

Tier 1
- Barely trained Force user
- Kid Force users

@Bart Why is Rey above Kylo despite losing their duel?

DC77 (Reborn) wrote:@Bart Why is Rey above Kylo despite losing their duel?

Rey was mentally hindred.

What relevance does a Lightsaber duel even have to a Force User tier list anyway, when Kylo has had far more training than her and thus is obviously far more skilled?