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Blade_of_Dorin
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on Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:44 pm
IdrisianGraecus wrote:Being > Unchained Vaylin is less impressive than losing to ROTS Sidious?
Being = to most powerful Sith ever > Being more powerful then Vaylin imo
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on Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:48 pm
Except DE Sidious is the most powerful, plenty are above ROTS Sidious, including Revan, Valkorion, Sarasu Taalon, etc.

Sidious and Yoda have nothing scaling then above the Ziost drain. They have nothing near it.
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on Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:29 am
I wasn’t referring to Sidious being more powerful then any Sith that comes after RotS (I.E. Taalon, Krayt, etc) that’s my bad, I should have specified. Sidious even as of RotS, is more powerful then any Sith ever prior to RotS tho (which includes Vitiate, Nihilus, etc).

Are you really saying that SITH REVAN (not even prime Revan) is more powerful then RotS Sidious? Lol
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on Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:26 pm
Not Darth, no. I meant Revan in general. As in SoR. Darth Revan is only around JA Luke’s level.
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on Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:20 pm
We were literally talking about Pre-RotS Sith who were more powerful RotS Sidous, so I have no clue why you brought Revan up when you literally agree that his Sith incarnation (The only version of Revan that should be relevant in this discussion) is inferior to RotS Sidious. 

Also, I'm under the oppression that Valk is not a Sith either, so I'm unsure as to why you brought him up as well.
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on Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:24 pm
@The Ellimist wrote:Another really tentative list

Luke Skywalker
Darth Sidious
Yoda / UnuThul / Lord Nyax
Darth Plagueis / Valkorion / Anakin Skywalker / Kyp Durron / Darth Krayt
Mace Windu
Lord Vol / Darth Tenebrous / Darth Caedus
Revan / Outlander / Darth Nihilus
Vaylin
Dooku / Obi Wan / Jaina Solo
Saba Sebatyne
Kyle Katarn / Darth Maul
Arcann / Darth Malak

Did you put these names in a random generator?  Force User Tiers - Page 6 2208776636
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on Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:45 pm
Not sure about Kyle Katarn on Maul's level
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on Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:51 pm
Katarn above Arcann...
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on Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:15 pm
Yeah, Katarn isn't Maul or Arcann level.
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on Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:29 pm
How is Vol below Windu?
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on Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:38 pm
Valk behind Nyax? Revan not at Yoda’s level? What the hell is Vaylin doing below Windu?
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on Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:59 pm
Maul shreds Katarn lol
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on Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:48 pm
Of course Valk is behind Nyax, Nyax is way more powerful. Windu achieved way more than Vaylin also.
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on Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:22 am
@HellfireUnit wrote:Of course Valk is behind Nyax, Nyax is way more powerful. Windu achieved way more than Vaylin also.

I wouldn't put Nyax above Malgus, let alone Valkorion

http://suspectinsight.forumotion.com/t577p100-top-fifteen-tournament-2#15632
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on Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:44 am
2 gaps = dominating fight
3 gaps = ragdoll/near-ragdoll
Luke Skywalker / Valkorion / DE Sidious
RotJ Sidious / SWTOR Vitiate
RotS Sidious / Yoda
Plagueis / Revan / Mace Windu / Outlander / Vaylin
Anakin / Nihilus / Starkiller / Caedus
SF Malak
Dooku / Arcann / Exar Kun / Vader
Obi Wan / Maul / Darth Bane / Darth Zannah / Freedon Nadd
Meetra Surik
HoT / Ventress / Kas'im
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on Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:31 am
^ so let's use:

within gap - not ordered, there can be noticeable differences though
one gap -> like Khabib vs. Conor in grappling
two gaps -> like SSJ Goku vs. 100% Frieza
three gaps -> like Endgame Thanos vs. Thor
four gaps -> ragdoll with effort
five gaps -> ragdoll with little effort

This is about applicable sheer Force power given motivation.

Peak Luke Skywalker
DE Sidious, TUF Luke
UnuThul, RotJ Sidious
RotS Sidious, Yoda, EoDE Luke, KF Vader, Kyp Durron
Darth Plagueis, Valkorion
Mace Windu, Vitiate, EoRotS Obi Wan
Darth Tenebrous, Darth Nihilus, Darth Caedus
Revan, RotJ Vader, Starkiller
Tenebrous's master, pre-sacrifice Jacen, Vaylin, Outlander, Dooku
Darth Ramage, ANH Obi Wan
SF Malak, IH Obi Wan, Saba Sebatyne, Arcann, Jaina Solo
Darth Maul, Exar Kun, Darth Bane, Darth Zannah, Kyle Katarn
Marka Ragnos, Freedon Nadd
SoR HoT, Ventress
Darth Malgus, Kas'im, Kaan
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on Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:46 pm
Mace’s power doesn’t come from his TK goddamnit
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on Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:19 pm
DC77 (Reborn) wrote:Tiers are ordered (Some people who I don't have concrete thoughts on such as Durron, Nihilus, Lomi, Welk, Most Members Of The Lost Tribe ect were absent):

Tier 9:

Upper End:

Luke
Sidious
Nyax
Valkorion

Middle Section:

KF Vader
Yoda
UnuThul
Vol

Lower End:

Windu

Tier 8:

Upper End:

Starkiller
Revan
The Outlander
Vaylin

Upper-Mid:

Plagueis
Caedus
Dooku
Krayt
Arcann
Tenebrous

Middle Section:

Malak (SF)

Lower-Mid:

Kenobi
Maul
Vader
Wyyrlok
Cade
Kun
Jerec

Lower End:

Zannah
Bane
Saba
Ulic
Act 3 Protags
Marr
Satele
Malgus
Ventress
Savage
Kyle

This is a rough outline of the 9's and 8's that is far from set in stone. Might alter and add the 7's later.
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on Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:22 pm
Nice to know that your opinions haven't changed over the course of less than two weeks  Force User Tiers - Page 6 1019854026
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on Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:23 pm
Gotta get my post count up somehow.

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on Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:24 pm
Vol ragdolls Raynar though
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on Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:28 pm
Not in any universe my friend.
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on Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:48 am
Certain characters have been left absent because they either suck ass and don't make tier 6 or are defo in tier 6 or above but I can't decide where (e.g Nihilus, Windu, Welk, Lomi, Gethzerion, Talon, Ventress ect). Try not to get too salty. With that said let us proceed (Tiers are ordered btw).

Tier 9 - The Best Of The Best

High:

Luke Skywalker
UnuThul
Nyax

Mid:

Sheev Palpatine
Valkorion

Low:

Anakin Skywalker
Yoda
Darth Krayt
Darish Vol

Tier 8 - As Good As They Come

High:

Revan
Jacen Solo
Vaylin
Outlander
Count Dooku
Darth Plagueis

Mid:

Arcann
Darth Tenebrous
Cade Skywalker
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Darth Maul

Low:

Malgus
SF Malak
Wyyrlok

Tier 7 - Solid But Forgettable

High:

Darth Vader
Jerec
Starkiller
Qui-Gon Jinn
Exar Kun
Darth Zannah
Darth Bane
Ulic Quel Droma
Savage O Press

Mid:

B-Team
Plo Koon
Luminara Unduli
Act 3 Protags
Marr
Satele

Low:

Saba Sabatyne
Kyle Katarn
Kyp Durron
Mara Jade Skywalker
Corran Horn
Quinlan Vos
Aayla Secura
Aurra Sing

Tier 6 - Nothing Noteworthy

High:

Kas'im
Shaak Ti

Mid:

Kazdan Paratus

Low:

Rham Kota

Probably missing a bunch of people I forgot and a couple people might be incorrectly slotted but this is the gist of it.


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on Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:44 pm
This better be bait tbh. Cade as a low 8? 'Killer below Jacen? Debate me lmao.
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on Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:16 pm
Sure, set up a thread and let's do it.
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