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DarthAnt66
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July 11th 2020, 9:50 pm
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MINI RESPECT THREAD: DOOKU

This is my first entry in a series of bite-sized respect threads. The goal is to create blogs that are easy and quick to read, emphasize only the most important facts, and are packed with sourcing for debate purposes. Each entry will have up to ten key facts supported by up to ten relevant sources. May the Force be with you.

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(PRE 32 BBY) Dooku was regarded as perhaps the greatest lightsaber duelist of the Jedi Order, was one of only two Jedi to ever defeat Mace Windu in a legitimate spar, was himself allegedly never bested by Windu, and was regarded by Yoda as both his "most learned in the ways of the Force" and "strongest" student. 

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(32 BBY - 22 BBY) Dooku grew far more powerful in the Force and skilled with a lightsaber after falling to the dark side and apprenticing under Palpatine.

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(23 BBY) Dooku easily threw 215 meter Sith cruisers at Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi on Korriban, forming mountains of twisted metal. Note that while Korriban was a dark side nexus, Darth Bane observed its energies had been subsiding for millenia, and Obi-Wan stated that Dooku was more powerful on Geonosis anyway. 

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(22 BBY) Dooku was far more formidable than Darth Maul and easily defeated Obi-Wan Kenobi on Geonosis--who, in turn, had continued to master the Force and train Anakin Skywalker for ten years since Episode I, in which Obi-Wan had already fiercely contented with Maul during an angry flurry after Qui-Gon Jinn was defeated. 

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(22 BBY) Dooku was "equal to" Yoda in the Force on Geonosis according to George Lucas. Lucas likewise states that their lightsaber duel was an epic clash between supreme masters of the Force, with both combatants attacking and defending. Note that these descriptions reveal a late change in the Episode II script, which instead chronicles a one-sided fight of Dooku futilely attacking an unmoving Yoda and then Yoda explosively attacking and disarming a rapidly retreating Dooku. Many 2002 sources used the earlier Episode II script and consequently depicted Dooku's performance unfavorably, but later sources generally support closeness or parity.

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(21 BBY) Dooku held his own against Mace Windu and Obi-Wan Kenobi combined on Behpour. The Jedi duo needed to redirect his Force lightning at nearby energy generators, causing them to overload and release damaging electrical blasts, gradually weakening Dooku and eventually collapsing the large platform that they fought on.

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(21 BBY) Dooku utterly dominated Asajj Ventress with telekinesis on Vjun. (Ventress had already challenged Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi on five occasions respectively, defeated Kit Fisto on Ord Cestus, moved far faster than Plo Koon on the Devastation, and defeated Luminara Unduli on the Tranquility.) Months later above Toydaria, Ventress briefly held her own against Dooku but was ultimately telekinetically battered into submission. (This more powerful Ventress had even greatly challenged Mace Windu on Coruscant.) Note, however, that Ventress was uniquely vulnerable to Dooku due to withheld knowledge and their personal connection.

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(21 BBY & 20 BBY) Dooku held his own against Yoda on Vjun. Although outclassed, Dooku was only slowly driven back and forced Yoda to breathe hard. Note that while Vjun was a powerful dark side nexus, Yoda was nevertheless repeatedly suggested to likewise be amplified by its energies, which the author Sean Stewart later confirmed. A year later on Tatooine, Dooku shockingly defeated Yoda. Note that Dooku may have shrouded his powers to deceive and lure Yoda into a trap, as Yoda stated that Dooku's abilities had significantly diminished immediately before Dooku abruptly bested him via Force lightning and corrected that he had grown more powerful.

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(19 BBY) Dooku handily defeated Obi-Wan Kenobi on the Invisible Hand, who had become one of the most powerful and skilled Jedi in history. Dooku easily repelled Obi-Wan's use of his secondary form of Ataru, but Obi-Wan's abrupt change to his primary form of Soresu initially bewildered Dooku with its speed and technique. Once Dooku adjusted, he quickly incapacitated Obi-Wan twice-over within the span of seconds, perhaps showing his mastery in engineering and exploiting openings, all the while fighting Anakin Skywalker too. Note that while Obi-Wan's second incapacitation was attributed to Dooku's familiarity with his style, his abrupt change in tactics, and the attack's speed preventing Obi-Wan from forming a Force barrier, Obi-Wan likewise has experienced Dooku's form of Makashi across twelve fights against Asajj Ventress and four prior fights against Dooku, and Anakin was still unnerved by the ease by which Dooku defeated Obi-Wan despite knowing its circumstances.

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(19 BBY) Dooku held his own against Anakin Skywalker on the Invisible Hand. (Even at the fight's onset, Anakin was repeatedly described as perhaps the most powerful and skilled Jedi alive and of the Order's entire history.) Anakin gradually grew more powerful across the fight as he drew more on his dark side emotions, with his devastating Djem So blows exhausting Dooku's Makashi defenses. After Dooku eliminated Obi-Wan and Anakin cast aside his Jedi restraint and embraced his fear and rage fully, Anakin became even more powerful and fought in a state of mental clarity. Though Dooku was decisively defeated and the outcome was stated to be certain, the combat was still described as "intense" and as two combatants swirling and attacking in bursts of power. George Lucas stated that Anakin's defeat of Dooku proved him to be a "perfect apprentice" to Palpatine, and Christopher Lee stated the point of the fight was to surprise the audience and show a combatant could actually defeat Dooku.

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"I have become more powerful than any Jedi. Even you."


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July 12th 2020, 12:05 am
very, very nice. if i could give u a constellation, i would. good job on making this to later show how impressive vader is btw.
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July 12th 2020, 2:13 pm
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You should probably add his massive superiority to Maul in SOD.
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July 12th 2020, 5:56 pm
you should do one of anakin  and add in the dooku section his grow on the clone wars
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July 12th 2020, 7:41 pm
Master Azronger wrote:You should probably add his massive superiority to Maul in SOD.
calm down. we're gonna get there in time. have patience. he also needs to show how dooku beats plagueis, so its a long road no matter how u look at it.
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July 13th 2020, 5:04 pm
Master Azronger wrote:You should probably add his massive superiority to Maul in SOD.
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July 13th 2020, 6:04 pm
I wonder what Dooku looks like when he’s shirtless How Powerful is Dooku? | Dooku Respect Thread (2020) 2960029119
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July 13th 2020, 7:11 pm
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July 13th 2020, 9:02 pm
When I was shooting the stabbing shot with Christopher, as a director would I was explaining to him what he should do"... "And he says, 'Peter, have you ever heard the sound a man makes when he’s stabbed in the back?' And I said, 'Um, no.' And he says 'Well, I have, and I know what to do.' "
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July 13th 2020, 9:16 pm
CuckedCurry wrote:How Powerful is Dooku? | Dooku Respect Thread (2020) 04d3b210
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July 14th 2020, 6:32 am
Worth putting in that Mace and Obi-wan were helpless against Sais attack while Dooku easily deflects it
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July 14th 2020, 7:09 am
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Is that a cross-guard saber
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July 14th 2020, 7:10 am
Yep. All the nightsisters have energy swords in that game
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July 14th 2020, 8:44 am
HeartoftheForce wrote:Worth putting in that Mace and Obi-wan were helpless against Sais attack while Dooku easily deflects it
That's Fisto and Obi-Wan, not Mace and Obi-Wan iirc.
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July 14th 2020, 8:46 am
....... Did you watch both clips?
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July 14th 2020, 8:55 am
Sorry, missed it. Good point.
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July 21st 2020, 8:16 pm
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Ant, why didn’t you include his feats from fellowship of the ring and the two towers
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July 21st 2020, 11:26 pm
Latham2000 wrote:Ant, why didn’t you include his feats from fellowship of the ring and the two towers
its not legends
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July 22nd 2020, 12:24 am
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There’s always some truth in legends.
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