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BreakofDawn
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November 29th 2019, 12:17 am
Overrated:

Malak
Vitiate
Nihilus
Mace Windu
Obi-Wan Kenobi
KFV
Grievous
Marka Ragnos
Naga Sadow
Adı Gallia

🇪🇭
The Reborn Emperor
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November 29th 2019, 12:23 am
Windu isn’t overrated, he’s just Dooku-ish tier.
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November 29th 2019, 12:23 am
Underrated:

Kanan Jarrus.
Darth Malgus.
Arcann.
Vaylin (ish).
Meetra Surik.
Qui-Gon Jinn.
General Grievous.
Darth Maul.

Overrated:
KFV.
Darth Sidious (as usual).
Krayt.
Revan (SoR).
Mustafar Obi-Wan.
Taron Malicos. 
Cal Kestis.
Darth Plagueis.
2nd Sister.

In between:
Pre-ROTS Mace (seen people claim he's = Sith Dooku, which is definitely not the case until late TCW era).
Count Dooku (up and down).
Revan Reborn (praised for being spanked by Vitiate).
Exar Kun (overrated af by one or two prominent people, underrated by others).
Yoda (like Dooku, he's very up and down).
Starkiller (still massively overrated by some people).
Suit Vader (largely underrated but with the help of some people he's getting back to a respectable level).


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BreakofDawn
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November 29th 2019, 12:23 am
Meatpants wrote:Windu isn’t overrated, he’s just Dooku-ish tier.
Pre-ROTS, yeah.
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November 29th 2019, 1:58 am
@BreakofDawn wrote:Exar Kun (overrated af by one or two prominent people)
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The Reborn Emperor
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November 29th 2019, 2:01 am
ROTS he's still closer to Dooku than Sidious, Yoda or Anakin
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November 29th 2019, 2:08 am
@BreakofDawn wrote:
Meatpants wrote:Windu isn’t overrated, he’s just Dooku-ish tier.
Pre-ROTS, yeah.
Mace's growth is commonly attributed to his mastery over the Vaapad form, not power in the force.
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November 29th 2019, 8:55 am
Mace's growth is commonly attributed to his mastery over the Vaapad form, not power in the force.

It's the same thing. His inner darkness increased significantly in lock-step with his growing power following Shatterpoint. We just see the results of this when he stops holding back in his fight with Sheev.
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November 29th 2019, 9:19 am
Look, there's no denying that Mace can cut loose so to speak, but it's also true that there was some sort of boost from Sidious, and that's just the fact.
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November 29th 2019, 9:25 am
I know there was, but there's also the fact that to actually channel that kind of power using Vaapad you have to have both the willpower and raw power to harness it or act as a conduit, otherwise you'll be overwhelmed like Depa.
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November 29th 2019, 9:28 am
@BreakofDawn wrote:
Overrated:

Malak
Vitiate
Nihilus
Mace Windu
Obi-Wan Kenobi
KFV
Grievous
Marka Ragnos
Naga Sadow
Adı Gallia

🇪🇭

Vitiate/Valkorion is overrated as hell. Him being above Plagueis amuses me honestly.

About Mace, he is extremely strong but most forum users are putting him above Yoda, Sidious and Anakin.
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November 29th 2019, 9:36 am
Vitiate/Valkorion is overrated as hell. 

Valkorion is 100% not overrated, and I've never seen anyone put Mace > the trio.
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November 29th 2019, 9:53 am
@BreakofDawn wrote:I know there was, but there's also the fact that to actually channel that kind of power using Vaapad you have to have both the willpower and raw power to harness it or act as a conduit, otherwise you'll be overwhelmed like Depa.

So then base Windu isn’t tier 9.
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November 29th 2019, 10:04 am
@BreakofDawn wrote:
Vitiate/Valkorion is overrated as hell. 

Valkorion is 100% not overrated, and I've never seen anyone put Mace > the trio.

I was talking in general, not only here. There are still many places where I see people putting Windu above the RotS Titans.
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November 29th 2019, 10:51 am
Ah fairs. At best, Mace is a complete equal of Yoda and Sidious. Realistically, he's just below them.
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November 29th 2019, 11:03 am
He wasn’t a complete equal though. 

At base he’s closer to Dooku than Yoda or Sidious, as I originally stated.
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November 29th 2019, 12:06 pm
Cutting-loose Mace easily squashes Dooku. Don't matter if he was boosted by Sidious he can get a boost from Dark Side Dooku as well.
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November 29th 2019, 12:14 pm
Unlikely. Dooku isn't a character nearly as dark as Maul or Sidious. Dooku doesn't even have the Sith eyes, he is in control of his emotions. Dark Side is only a tool for him. Besides Dooku knows the nature of Vaapad and has experience. Thus he has an advantage over Mace. The only thing favors Mace is physicals IMO.
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November 29th 2019, 12:40 pm
Mace doesn't need an external boost, either. If he cuts loose like he did against Sidious (unlikely, but possible), he can use his own power to amp himself up to Sidious/Yoda level. Now, if we're talking about anything before ROTS, then it could go either way.
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November 29th 2019, 2:27 pm
@BreakofDawn wrote:Mace doesn't need an external boost, either. If he cuts loose like he did against Sidious (unlikely, but possible), he can use his own power to amp himself up to Sidious/Yoda level. Now, if we're talking about anything before ROTS, then it could go either way.

Again, he was getting a boost from Sidious as well, so CutLoose!Mace isn't on par with Yoda/Sidious (despite the fact he wasn't even on par with Sidious with the boost as well).
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November 30th 2019, 2:21 am
He wasn’t getting a boost from wankatine at all. Do you even know what you’re talking about?
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November 30th 2019, 5:53 am
@BreakofDawn wrote:
Overrated:
Darth Sidious (as usual).

You seem to have a particular hate boner for Papa Sheev. From whence did this neurological disorder arise, if I may inquire?

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November 30th 2019, 6:21 am
Lol. Just think he's massively overrated as a Force user, and he's a pretty meh villain too. I grew out of pantomime villains a long tine ago.
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November 30th 2019, 7:58 am
You seem to emphasize that belief across multiple threads, though, and without provocation, too. Clearly, this antipathy goes deeper than what you're letting on.
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November 30th 2019, 9:11 am
Can warp the fabric of space and destroy whole fleets and planets

Overrated imo
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