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KingofBlades
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July 20th 2019, 5:33 am
BaratoBhajji wrote: What Anakin can bring to the table and what Anakin does bring to the table (daily basis) are two separate things

If the quotes were talking about "what Anakin can bring to the table"(drawing on potential) they would be calling Anakin the most powerful force user to ever exist. What Anakin does bring to the table(applicable power) is the subject of the quotes not his potential.
CuckedCurry
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July 20th 2019, 5:40 am
But the do call Anakin the most powerful Jedi to have ever existed??? That’s what the Chosen One prophecy means 0.0
KingofBlades
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July 20th 2019, 5:44 am
BaratoBhajji wrote:But the do call Anakin the most powerful Jedi to have ever existed??? That’s what the Chosen One prophecy means 0.0
I said force user not jedi, meaning I was including Abeloth, the ones etc. Anyways I don't want to derail this thread any further so I'm going to make an appropriate thread for it.
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July 20th 2019, 5:47 am
KingofBlades wrote:
LOTL wrote:And yeah character opinions are not as important evidence as objective evidence or feats

Not even close
There are 3 out of universe statements calling Anakin the most powerful jedi ever and possibly a 4th depending on how you interpret it And can you provide a quote saying base Anakin is only a tier 8 duelist

There are many more calling Yoda and Sidous as more powerful than him

Just look it up on the RT
CuckedCurry
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July 20th 2019, 5:48 am
Boi are you intentionally being awkward? they do call him the most powerful Force user to have ever existed. As far as the Jedi are concerned the Ones never actually existed as Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka thought the Mortis arc was a dream lol
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July 20th 2019, 6:18 am
KingofBlades wrote:
LOTL wrote:And yeah character opinions are not as important evidence as objective evidence or feats

Not even close
There are 3 out of universe statements calling Anakin the most powerful jedi ever and possibly a 4th depending on how you interpret it And can you provide a quote saying base Anakin is only a tier 8 duelist

"Obi-Wan is at a level 8, which is where Anakin starts. But Anakin jumps to level 9 -- and the difference between 8 and 9 is enormous. A Jedi can get to level 9, but that's the difference between light and dark. The duel actually gives you quite an idea about these characters, because Anakin has learned the fighting, he's enormously talented -- but he hasn't learned the mental side of it."

- Gillard in the article "Dueling Jedi".
KingofBlades
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July 20th 2019, 6:23 am
BaratoBhajji wrote:Boi are you intentionally being awkward? they do call him the most powerful Force user to have ever existed. As far as the Jedi are concerned the Ones never actually existed as Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka thought the Mortis arc was a dream lol

I am referring to the out of universe statements. Also direct your responses to the thread I made
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July 20th 2019, 1:56 pm
He gets better as Vader
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July 20th 2019, 1:59 pm
He doesn’t
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July 20th 2019, 2:03 pm
According to Lucas, Yoda and Sidious are both nines, while base light side Anakin is an eight and he has become a nine by the Mustafar duel by tapping into the dark side. Lucas also said that Anakin was at some point as strong as Sidious, but also says only Mace and Yoda can compete with the Emperor and that Anakin would have beaten him had he not been crippled on Mustafar, although no timeframe is specified.

Again, that's all what Lucas has said. So make what you will of it.
NevesYtneves (DC77)
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July 20th 2019, 8:23 pm
Dooku V Yoda is like Maul V Jinn. He can hold his own but he'll never win.
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LOTL

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July 21st 2019, 3:48 am
To those saying "Dooku can hold his own" or "Dooku is comparable", do they really think Dooku is comparable to Sidious because that is where Yoda is at, or that Dooku can challenge Sidious in a battle?
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July 21st 2019, 3:49 am
Azronger wrote:According to Lucas, Yoda and Sidious are both nines, while base light side Anakin is an eight and he has become a nine by the Mustafar duel by tapping into the dark side. Lucas also said that Anakin was at some point as strong as Sidious, but also says only Mace and Yoda can compete with the Emperor and that Anakin would have beaten him had he not been crippled on Mustafar, although no timeframe is specified.

Again, that's all what Lucas has said. So make what you will of it.

He could already have become a 9 on the IH by tapping on the dark side
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July 21st 2019, 4:33 am
LOTL wrote:
Azronger wrote:According to Lucas, Yoda and Sidious are both nines, while base light side Anakin is an eight and he has become a nine by the Mustafar duel by tapping into the dark side. Lucas also said that Anakin was at some point as strong as Sidious, but also says only Mace and Yoda can compete with the Emperor and that Anakin would have beaten him had he not been crippled on Mustafar, although no timeframe is specified.

Again, that's all what Lucas has said. So make what you will of it.

He could already have become a 9 on the IH by tapping on the dark side

Nah - see my explanation in the Tournament thread.
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