Prime Marks Ragnos- fully geared VS AOTC Yoda

HellfireUnit wrote:Marka Ragnos is sub NJO padawan, he fucking gets trashed into oblivion.

BreakofDawn wrote:

HellfireUnit wrote:Marka Ragnos is sub NJO padawan, he fucking gets trashed into oblivion.

Trayus Marauder wrote:All jokes aside, one could argue that Ragnos ragdolls.

HellfireUnit wrote:Marka Ragnos is sub NJO padawan, he fucking gets trashed into oblivion.

LadyKulvax wrote:What part of 'for a time' are you having difficulty comprehending?

Marka Ragnos having his full power back immediately after returning to Chaos would be a ridiculous stance given that Sheev needed years of draining the life force of 20,000,000,000 people and an enormous nexus, to regain his full power after he returned.

AOTC Yoda wouldn't stomp Plagueis and he certainly isn't stomping Ragnos. Need I bring up the cowed quote and explain why it absolutely is a wank feat for Ragnos?

Trayus Marauder wrote:To explain why Ragnos can (and likely would) ragdoll Yoda, I'll refer everyone to this scaling. Afterward, I'll provide the various pieces of evidence that justify the legitimacy of its construction:

The scaling:

Marka Ragnos>>Naga Sadow>Ludo Kressh>generic Ancient Sith>generic Ancient Sith spirits>generic Ancient Sith spirits on Korriban as of 0ABY>ANH Sidious>RotS Sidious>>Count Dooku=AotC Yoda

The evidence (working my way from the bottom all the way to Ragnos):
1. Lucas confirmed that as of AotC, Dooku and Yoda were equals in terms of overall power.
2. Gillard confirmed that RotS Sidious and Anakin are on the same tier. Considering how easily Anakin won in RotS vs Dooku, it is fair to conclude that RotS Sidious could do just as well if not better.
3. ANH Sidious>RotS Sidious due to natural progression over time due to training and a greater understanding of the force.
4. An ancient Sith spirit on a weakened Korriban was responsible for kicking Sidious's ass around 0ABY, nearly killing him.
5. Given Korriban was more potent during Ancient times, the spirits would have more power to use and draw from.
6. Ancient living Sith would be more powerful than their spirit forms due to the consistent theme of physical versions being more powerful than spirits. Exar Kun is an excellent example of this.
7. Ludo Kressh was one of the Sith in line to take over the Empire, demonstrating that he stood above almost everyone else.
8. Considering that Sadow beat Kressh in a legitimate fight, he is superior without question.
9. Sadow is confirmed to be inferior to Ragnos via multiple accolades as well as the fact that Kressh held absolute confidence that Ragnos' spirit could crush Sadow. And as mentioned before, physical versions>spirits.

Trayus Marauder wrote:@Vaelias

All fine and dandy until you realise that Chee debunked the viability of supremacy quotes meaning the Sidious>all other Sith quotes aren't valid.

4. An ancient Sith spirit on a weakened Korriban was responsible for kicking Sidious's ass around 0ABY, nearly killing him.

I do like how you make hypocritical points. You note that supremacy quotes are up for debate yet you try to say that debating them is canonically incorrect.

Leland Chee wrote:"there is always going to be room for interpretation and debate"

Leland Chee wrote:"is the power being measured referring to his mastery over the dark side of the force, the governmental powers he wields as Emperor, or some combination of both"

Leland Chee wrote:Us continuity people don't deal in absolutes

It's also interesting to note that Sidious quotes are specifically debunked.

Chee notes that while Gillard's list is legitimate, others are not given that he and others don't deal in absolutes.

So dodge as much as you like but Sidious supremacy quotes have no power.