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Seturna
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on December 29th 2020, 8:43 am
Who is actually better and who would win in a fight?
HeartoftheForce
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on December 29th 2020, 8:50 am
RotS Yoda is a full tier above AotC
Vaelias
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on December 29th 2020, 8:53 am
what on earth is the point of this lol
Seturna
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on December 29th 2020, 8:54 am
@Vaelias wrote:what on earth is the point of this lol
Because some people believe Yoda grows in the war, some believes he declines. And that’s why I created this thread...
KingKopecz
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on December 29th 2020, 8:56 am
TPM Anakin vs RotS Anakin
DarthFatcow
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on December 29th 2020, 9:33 am
RoTS Yoda is obviously a lot more powerful than AoTC Yoda.
BreakofDawn
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on December 29th 2020, 9:42 am
ROTS Yoda isn't exactly more powerful. Not by a large margin, anyway. He simply let go of his Jedi restraint and fought Sidious with everything he had. Very similar to what Mace did. It's why he's a different kettle of fish to AOTC Yoda.
Vaelias
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on December 29th 2020, 9:48 am
@Seturna wrote:
@Vaelias wrote:what on earth is the point of this lol
Because some people believe Yoda grows in the war, some believes he declines. And that’s why I created this thread...

ahhh ok, well yeh hes on a decline from when he was 700, but he then gets a massive boost when he learns from the force priestesses, but i think TPM Yoda would be ever so slightly above AOTC Yoda
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on December 29th 2020, 12:47 pm
@BreakofDawn wrote:ROTS Yoda isn't exactly more powerful. Not by a large margin, anyway. He simply let go of his Jedi restraint and fought Sidious with everything he had. Very similar to what Mace did. It's why he's a different kettle of fish to AOTC Yoda.

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Vaelias
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on December 29th 2020, 1:12 pm
@BreakofDawn wrote:ROTS Yoda isn't exactly more powerful. Not by a large margin, anyway. He simply let go of his Jedi restraint and fought Sidious with everything he had. Very similar to what Mace did. It's why he's a different kettle of fish to AOTC Yoda.

true true but he still experienced massive growth from the shaman of the whills in TCW
VictreebelVictr
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on December 29th 2020, 4:01 pm
@KingKopecz wrote:TPM Anakin vs RotS Anakin
Vaelias
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on December 29th 2020, 4:39 pm
@KingKopecz wrote:TPM Anakin vs RotS Anakin

Now this is podracing
Blade_of_Dorin
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on December 29th 2020, 6:08 pm
I’ve seen people float out the idea that Yoda’s encounter with the Force Priestesses‘ was a potential catalyst for growth. Is there any evidence to actually back this up or is it mainly conjecture?
VictreebelVictr
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on December 29th 2020, 6:11 pm
I see no reason for him to have grown much. Besides maybe becoming more connected to the light side through his duel with his darker self.
HeartoftheForce
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on December 29th 2020, 7:06 pm
Yoda is confirmed via G-Canon to be equal in power to Dooku who is confirmed an 8.

By RotS he’s a 9. Rationalise however you want but factually growth took place and it was massive
VictreebelVictr
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on December 29th 2020, 7:14 pm
@HeartoftheForce wrote:Yoda is confirmed via G-Canon to be equal in power to Dooku who is confirmed an 8.

By RotS he’s a 9. Rationalise however you want but factually growth took place and it was massive
So, during AOTC, Dooku>Windu?
HeartoftheForce
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on December 29th 2020, 7:51 pm
Yep
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on December 30th 2020, 12:33 am
AotC Yoda wins. Nothing supports his growth instead him getting weaker.
Blade_of_Dorin
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on December 30th 2020, 4:08 pm
Yea, Dooku being stated to be an 8 might work in favor of Yoda megagrowth, but that was only stated once in an email, outside of any official canonical sources. In emails, Gillard has also stated that sub-Jinn Suit Vader is a tier 9, on par with Yoda and RotS Sidious (AoTC Yoda vs ROTS Yoda 1220391476) and that Jinn beats Fisto (AoTC Yoda vs ROTS Yoda 2208776636). Both of which are so far from the truth that it isn’t even remotely amusing. So yea, Dooku being a tier 8 because of that statement is hardly conclusive, and thus, hardly proof of any significant growth from Yoda between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.
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on December 31st 2020, 1:52 pm
RotS Yoda stomps.
Vaelias
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on December 31st 2020, 2:01 pm
@HeartoftheForce wrote:Yoda is confirmed via G-Canon to be equal in power to Dooku who is confirmed an 8.

By RotS he’s a 9. Rationalise however you want but factually growth took place and it was massive

he was equal to dooku in the force, but not in sabers, he may well have still been a 9 in sabers in AOTC, seeing as the tiers are only combat ability
BreakofDawn
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on December 31st 2020, 9:37 pm
@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Yea, Dooku being stated to be an 8 might work in favor of Yoda megagrowth, but that was only stated once in an email, outside of any official canonical sources. In emails, Gillard has also stated that sub-Jinn Suit Vader is a tier 9, on par with Yoda and RotS Sidious (AoTC Yoda vs ROTS Yoda 1220391476) and that Jinn beats Fisto (AoTC Yoda vs ROTS Yoda 2208776636). Both of which are so far from the truth that it isn’t even remotely amusing. So yea, Dooku being a tier 8 because of that statement is hardly conclusive, and thus, hardly proof of any significant growth from Yoda between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.

@Blade_of_Dorin As I recall, Gillard stated that Vader being a tier 9 was a personal opinion, not what he was officially ranked as, which coincides with the fact that he never ranked OT Jedi/Sith because he was never asked to. Maul and Dooku he was treating as an authoritative ranking. Given that Lucas has confirmed that only Yoda, MFV and Mace can rival the likes of Sidious and Dooku's notable inferiority to ROTS Sidious is reiterated time and time again, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove by saying this.

Unless there's a Lucas/Gillard quote that contradicts the Dooku placement (like there is for the suited Vader one, whereby Lucas stated he was a lot less powerful than KFV/MFV and was "maybe" 20% less than Sidious - indicating a significant decline in power regardless of the fact that he was still immensely powerful - as compared to a tier 9 like KFV/MFV), Gillard's placement - which I believe he was phrasing as their official placement, not where he believed they fell on the tiers - holds.
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on January 1st 2021, 9:59 am
RotS Yoda.
KingofBlades
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on January 2nd 2021, 2:59 am
Citation needed for RotS Yoda being above his Aotc iteration by any margin, let alone this entire tier nonsense
KingKopecz
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on January 2nd 2021, 4:40 am
Why is this even a discussion? AotC Yoda is Dooku level, RotS Yoda is Anakin level. Anakin is far above Dooku.
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