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on Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:52 pm
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on Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:08 pm
Reasonably big.
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on Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:14 pm
I see the claim thrown around that Yoda experienced significant growth, but i haven't seen the evidence supporting it.
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on Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:36 pm
No evidence to suggest he grew at all, and even if we generously assume he did it probably wasn't a massive increase imo.

They should definitely be on the same level.
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on Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:48 pm
StrangerThingsFan77 wrote:No evidence to suggest he grew at all, and even if we generously assume he did it probably wasn't a massive increase imo.

They should definitely be on the same level.

If there is no evidence that he grew, why do people think he did?
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on Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:01 pm
The only quote I can think of that supports the theory that Yoda grew, was the statement stating that fighting Dooku was all the training he needed, or something along those lines. I don't think this is in any way concrete enough to justify the belief that Yoda experienced significant growth. If there is more evidence however, I'll gladly hear it.
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on Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:04 pm
I don't think he grew at all, even maybe got weaker. His age is a problem and the only training he required was learning about becoming a Force Ghost.
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on Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:12 pm
You believe RotS yoda is
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on Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:13 pm
This is a test because my previous post isn't displaying the rest of my sentence.

EDIT: wtf why is this post fine but my other one cut off mid sentence?
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on Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:18 pm
@Azronger wrote:
StrangerThingsFan77 wrote:No evidence to suggest he grew at all, and even if we generously assume he did it probably wasn't a massive increase imo.

They should definitely be on the same level.

If there is no evidence that he grew, why do people think he did?

From my POV there's no evidence but maybe others think there is. For example, I know some people think he grew based on him being => Anakin who stomped Dooku (whereas he failed to in AOTC) or whatever, but this isn't a view I share.
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on Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:12 am
So is there any other evidence besides the one quote that says Yoda got all the training he needed fighting Dooku?
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on Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:44 am
Before AotC Yoda have decrease in term of force power for (at least) 200 years. I see no reason for him to grow between AotC and RotS. I think that he will be a bit less powerful in RotS than in AotC
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on Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:31 am
He might have been more motivated which can help to bring out the best in him, but on a base level no.
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on Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:58 pm
Did the journey he took with the Whills improve him in anyway?
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on Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:04 pm
Yoda did go through mental confrontations between AotC and RotS, and we know that mental confrontations lead to one's power in the Force maturing.
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on Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:07 pm
StrangerThingsFan77 wrote:No evidence to suggest he grew at all, and even if we generously assume he did it probably wasn't a massive increase imo.

They should definitely be on the same level.
He can't have gone from stalemating Count Dooku, to competing with and disarming ROTS Sidious without any significant power growth.
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on Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:20 pm
@SithSauce wrote:He can't have gone from stalemating Count Dooku, to competing with and disarming ROTS Sidious without any significant power growth.

He beat Dooku decisively. The best Dooku did was hold strong for one exchange purely defensively. After that Yoda was systematically picking him apart, each time Dooku tried to anticipate what Yoda would do and launch a counterattack Yoda would instead anticipate him, and in short order, he had him cornered and worn down.
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on Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:21 pm
@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Did the journey he took with the Whills improve him in anyway?
He learn how to live as a force ghost... but we didn't have other information explaining that he improve otherway
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on Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:44 pm
The gap is massive imo.
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on Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:39 pm
The journey to become a Force ghost did involve him confronting his greatest fears and temptations, including his own darkness. He probably did grow more powerful, but not by too much.
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on Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:53 pm
Is season 6 of TCW considered canon or legends?
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on Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:56 pm
Unless it contradicts Legends, I think it can be taken as either. Not sure, though.
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on Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:43 pm
BreakofDawn wrote:The journey to become a Force ghost did involve him confronting his greatest fears and temptations, including his own darkness. He probably did grow more powerful, but not by too much.
That's what I was thinking.
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on Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:47 pm
Bump.

Shouldn't the gap be huge in terms of power? Yoda as of AotC was given a good fight from a "noticably" pre-prime Dooku, but as of RotS the only guys who can compete with Sidious are Yoda and Mace as stated in The Making of Revenge of the Sith, Dooku is absolutely out of the equation in who can compete with Sidious because he obviously appeared in the beginning of the movie, so he's not exempt to that quote. Yoda disarmed Sidious in their lightsaber duel, though he lost in the Force battle.
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on Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:28 pm
Yeah, the gap is pretty colossal.

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