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Quorian Debatist
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:50 am
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Despite EC poorly representing Kueller and him being a poor choice, I switch my vote to Kueller. It's only difficult because EC thinks he represents Kueller, yet has never read New Rebellion. Don't want him to think this is a vote for EC.
Heathen
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:52 am
In less than one minute, someone starred QD's reply.  How many stars will QD receive?

BTW, QD.  What's the beef with EC?
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:55 am
The Dark Apprentice wrote:After further deliberation with EC and BoD blackmailing me to vote Kueller, I have decided to change my vote to Maulkiller. The benefits to Maulkiller are as follows:

Galen's clones are born inherently with his power and so Maulkiller would undoubtedly have the same feats and scaling.

Maul and Galen's DNA are blended into one being which means all physical feats would be better than either character faster, stronger, better.

Maulkiller was created with the intent to craft the perfect weapon to kill Sidious lending to his hype.

He looks badass as hell:



Vote Maulkiller

I'm now officially anti-ISV.

I have spent what most likely amounts to decades defending him against the majority of you, but my fortitude is crushed by the... the ... by the ISV.

Forgive me for taking so long to see the light.
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:57 am
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@Quorian Debatist wrote:Despite EC poorly representing Kueller and him being a poor choice, I switch my vote to Kueller. It's only difficult because EC thinks he represents Kueller, yet has never read New Rebellion. Don't want him to think this is a vote for EC.
That's fine man. I've never claimed to be a good debater, in fact I'm not. I just wanted to support a character who I think deserved recognition.

Spoiler:
I've read NR
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★ Top Fifteen Tournament #15 - Kueller - Page 6 Empty Re: ★ Top Fifteen Tournament #15 - Kueller

on Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:02 am
@Heathen wrote:
The Dark Apprentice wrote:After further deliberation with EC and BoD blackmailing me to vote Kueller, I have decided to change my vote to Maulkiller. The benefits to Maulkiller are as follows:

Galen's clones are born inherently with his power and so Maulkiller would undoubtedly have the same feats and scaling.

Maul and Galen's DNA are blended into one being which means all physical feats would be better than either character faster, stronger, better.

Maulkiller was created with the intent to craft the perfect weapon to kill Sidious lending to his hype.

He looks badass as hell:



Vote Maulkiller

I'm now officially anti-ISV.

I have spent what most likely amounts to decades defending him against the majority of you, but my fortitude is crushed by the... the ... by the ISV.

Forgive me for taking so long to see the light.

doesn't this mean you are Anti Maul DNA  ★ Top Fifteen Tournament #15 - Kueller - Page 6 2864379292
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:23 am
isv wrote:doesn't this mean you are Anti Maul DNA 






you posted about Maulkiller... able to kill Maul.


Killer of Maul


Powerful enough to defeat Maul.


Maulkiller = anti-Maul


I am anti-anti-Maul.  
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:31 am
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Arcann
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:37 am
@Heathen wrote:
isv wrote:doesn't this mean you are Anti Maul DNA 






you posted about Maulkiller... able to kill Maul.


Killer of Maul


Powerful enough to defeat Maul.


Maulkiller = anti-Maul


I am anti-anti-Maul.  

His name is Maulkiller in reference to Starkiller and Maul as a hybrid. He's a canonical clone.
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:43 am
if it's between Kueller and Arcann, then you know I'll choose Kueller.

If I can write in a vote, it would be Galen/Maulkiller/Starkiller
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:47 am
Arcann
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:51 am
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Kueller Gets my vote.
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:02 am
From what I understand, all indicators are the following: DE Sidious >> RotJ Sidious > RotS Sidious > TPM Sidious = Plagueis > Tenebrous > Tenebrous' Master > Bane > Valkorion > Revan > KOTOR Revan > Malak > Exar Kun.
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:35 am
@Latham2000: Bane is not more powerful than Valkorion, lol. However, Plagueis is fully convinced that Nadd is more powerful than Tenebrous.
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:37 am
Jaggarath wrote:@Latham2000: Bane is not more powerful than Valkorion, lol. However, Plagueis is fully convinced that Nadd is more powerful than Tenebrous.

Is that in the DP novel?  Can you add the quote by chance?
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:38 am
@Heathen wrote:
Jaggarath wrote:@Latham2000: Bane is not more powerful than Valkorion, lol. However, Plagueis is fully convinced that Nadd is more powerful than Tenebrous.

Is that in the DP novel?  Can you add the quote by chance?

https://www.suspectinsightforums.com/t2804-a-case-for-the-neo-antediluvians
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:32 am
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@Quorian Debatist wrote:Despite EC poorly representing Kueller and him being a poor choice, I switch my vote to Kueller. It's only difficult because EC thinks he represents Kueller, yet has never read New Rebellion. Don't want him to think this is a vote for EC.

Bran's post is more convincing than anything EC has ever done for Kueller. Changing my vote to Kueller. Arcann being considered for top 15 is fucking retarded anyways.
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★ Top Fifteen Tournament #15 - Kueller - Page 6 Empty Re: ★ Top Fifteen Tournament #15 - Kueller

on Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:12 am
@HellfireUnit So is Kueller tbf

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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:41 am
The Dark Apprentice wrote:


His name is Maulkiller in reference to Starkiller and Maul as a hybrid. He's a canonical clone.

I know the character. =)  I was jk.  Where in canon?  I've seen his pic before, but I thought he was a concept.
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:38 pm
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Jaggarath wrote:@Latham2000: Bane is not more powerful than Valkorion, lol. However, Plagueis is fully convinced that Nadd is more powerful than Tenebrous.

Plagueis's in-universe subjective musings are overruled by this out of universe quote:

★ Top Fifteen Tournament #15 - Kueller - Page 6 Blurb_11
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:25 pm
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DarthAnt66
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:28 pm
@Latham2000 wrote:
Jaggarath wrote:@Latham2000: Bane is not more powerful than Valkorion, lol. However, Plagueis is fully convinced that Nadd is more powerful than Tenebrous.

Plagueis's in-universe subjective musings are overruled by this out of universe quote:

★ Top Fifteen Tournament #15 - Kueller - Page 6 Blurb_11

Among other things, pretty sure that’s not even canon.
Sjuttiosju
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:31 pm
@Jaggarath: You'd be right on that. It's a blurb.
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:43 pm
So, yeah:

- Chee doesn’t recognize blurbs as absolute.
- “As never before” doesn’t necessarily mean greater than ever before when the book is also introducing a ton of Force powers and rituals.
- Why would an OOU quote be bound by IU dating and not OOU dating?

An extraordinary and lore-shattering claim like that is going to need something infinitely more concrete.
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:01 pm
Also is contradicted by the existence of the Son and Abeloth, if taken IU. ★ Top Fifteen Tournament #15 - Kueller - Page 6 1289255181
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:49 pm
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