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KingofBlades
KingofBlades
Level Three
Level Three

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 12th 2019, 4:07 am
1.Sabers
2.Force
3.All-out

Who wins?
HellfireUnit
HellfireUnit
Level Six
Level Six

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 12th 2019, 4:33 am
Tenebrous in all.
Master Azronger
Master Azronger
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Moderator

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December 12th 2019, 9:10 am
Not even convinced Kun passes Bane

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EmperorCaedus
EmperorCaedus
Level Three
Level Three

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 12th 2019, 9:45 am
Tenebrous solidly.
The Witness
The Witness

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 12th 2019, 12:10 pm
Azronger wrote:Not even convinced Kun passes Bane
NevesYtneves (DC77)
NevesYtneves (DC77)
Level Seven
Level Seven

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 12th 2019, 12:43 pm
Bane is probably not that far from Kun in all honesty. Tenebrous shreds.
lorenzo.r.2nd
lorenzo.r.2nd
Level Three
Level Three

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 12th 2019, 12:48 pm
agreed.
EmperorCaedus
EmperorCaedus
Level Three
Level Three

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 12th 2019, 1:04 pm
Bane is sub Kun, but yea they aren't too far.
Shioz
Shioz

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 12th 2019, 8:12 pm
Azronger wrote:Not even convinced Kun passes Bane
BreakofDawn
BreakofDawn
Level Seven
Level Seven

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 12th 2019, 8:50 pm
Kulvax is going to have an aneurysm when he sees this.

Tenebrous wins.
IG
IG
Level Four
Level Four

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 12th 2019, 9:46 pm
Tenebrous wins, but Kun < Bane is cancer unless Bane ~ Tenebrous' master or something
HellfireUnit
HellfireUnit
Level Six
Level Six

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 12th 2019, 10:59 pm
Why Kun being < Bane is cancer?
lorenzo.r.2nd
lorenzo.r.2nd
Level Three
Level Three

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 12th 2019, 11:48 pm
lack of feats for bane , and super hype for kun sums it up tbh lol

bane is low key one of the strongest beings the galaxy has even seen

>gets stomped by exar kun whose best feat is being stronger than a karked up jedi order
HeartoftheForce
HeartoftheForce
Level Two
Level Two

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 13th 2019, 3:02 am
Kun is a nun compared to Bane.
Master Azronger
Master Azronger
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Moderator

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 13th 2019, 5:32 am
IdrisianGraecus wrote:Tenebrous wins, but Kun < Bane is cancer unless Bane ~ Tenebrous' master or something

Proof?
KingofBlades
KingofBlades
Level Three
Level Three

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 13th 2019, 5:35 am
He's referring to Plagueis's comments about the power of the ancients.
Master Azronger
Master Azronger
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Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 13th 2019, 9:20 am
Which are only in reference to historical applications of Sith sorcery, which Plagueis and Tenebrous lacked the affinity for. It isn't a concession on the ancients' purported superiority in the slightest.

From the start Tenebrous had told him that he lacked the talent for Sith sorcery, even though the inability hadn’t owed to a deficiency of midi-chlorians. It’s an innate gift, the Bith would say when pressed, and one that he had lacked, as well. Sorcery paled in comparison with Bith science, regardless. But Plagueis now understood that Tenebrous had been wrong about sorcery, as he had been wrong about so many things. Yes, the gift was strongest in those who, with scant effort, could allow themselves to be subsumed by the currents of the Force and become conduits for the powers of the dark side. But there was an alternative path to those abilities, and it led from a place where the circle closed on itself and sheer will substituted for selflessness. Plagueis understood, too, that there were no powers beyond his reach; none he couldn’t master through an effort of will. If a Sith of equal power had preceded him, then that one had taken his or her secrets to the grave, or had locked them away in holocrons that had been destroyed or had yet to surface.

Star Wars: Darth Plagueis


The text even notes how the inability doesn't arise from a dearth of midi-chlorians i.e. a lack of general power but that sorcery can inherently only be learned by some without regard for power levels. It reminds me of a passage in Dynasty of Evil where Zannah is musing about the inevitable confrontation between herself and Bane, and lists her Master's ability to produce Force lightning as an advantage for him. It is something she doesn't have an aptitude for, but the same is true in reverse when it comes to Sith sorcery. Yet despite these varying skillsets, we know that with regards to overall power and combative viability, the two are equals. Individual talents and inadequacies don't correlate with power level.
AncientPower
AncientPower
Suspect Hero | Level Four
Suspect Hero | Level Four

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 14th 2019, 4:53 pm
Exar Kun wins because he's better in everything.
BreakofDawn
BreakofDawn
Level Seven
Level Seven

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December 14th 2019, 6:26 pm
I don’t see why lacking the ability for Sith sorcery means anything in terms of their power. For example, you can be the smartest person on the planet but lack the ability to calculate advanced mathematical formulae in your head. You’re still the smartest, you’re just not the best at every single thing.
HellfireUnit
HellfireUnit
Level Six
Level Six

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 15th 2019, 3:48 am
Tenebrous wins because he's better in everything.
KingofBlades
KingofBlades
Level Three
Level Three

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 15th 2019, 7:03 am
Will make a case for Kun at some point in the near future
EmperorCaedus
EmperorCaedus
Level Three
Level Three

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 15th 2019, 6:00 pm
LadyKulvax wrote:Exar Kun wins because he's better in everything.
Why?
AncientPower
AncientPower
Suspect Hero | Level Four
Suspect Hero | Level Four

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 15th 2019, 7:36 pm
His Force feats are laughably more impressive, also Tenebrous has pretty much nothing in terms of lightsaber feats that can compare to Kun taking on Ulic and then his defeat of Vodo much later. That someone like Ventress is using his techniques to complete his repertoire is very telling.
Blade_of_Dorin
Blade_of_Dorin
Level One
Level One

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 15th 2019, 7:47 pm
Kun destroys everything in his immediate vicinity, including himself, except Tenebrous.
BreakofDawn
BreakofDawn
Level Seven
Level Seven

Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous Empty Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Tenebrous

December 15th 2019, 7:49 pm
Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Kun destroys everything in his immediate vicinity, including himself, except Tenebrous.
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