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Marc Spector
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on May 6th 2019, 9:16 pm
Legends TPM Maul is more powerful than SoD Maul and would dominate in a fight.

SoD is not C-Canon to Legends. The comic book is Canon only. This means that all of Maul's greatest feats that occurred in the EU (pre-TPM) don't apply to SoD Maul.

Canon TPM Maul < SoD Maul < EU TPM Maul

EDIT: fixed *TMP* acronym 😂 you guys can stop harassing me now

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Last edited by Marc Spector on April 1st 2020, 3:50 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : I had misspelled The Phantom Menace as The Menace Phantom.)
Blade_of_Dorin
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on May 6th 2019, 9:22 pm
Sons of Dathomir is both Legends and Canon, lol
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on May 6th 2019, 9:29 pm
@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Sons of Dathomir is both Legends and Canon, lol
SoD is not part of the legends timeline/continuity. It is Canon ONLY
Many EU fans say otherwise, but they're denying fact. Your head canon =/= reality
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on May 6th 2019, 9:42 pm
Okay... um, for one thing The Menace Phantom Maul is OP anyway.

For another how does this make it so he doesn't grow in SC?

throughout TCW he was stated to grow lol

CLONE THE WARS > THE MENACE PHANTOM
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on May 6th 2019, 9:44 pm
Hm, that depends on how we're defining Legends continuity. Note that Matt Martin, who's apart of the Lucasfilm Story Group, sees no reason why SoD wouldn't also be apart of both Legends and Canon continuity. 

Welcome to the forum, BTW. Glad to have you here.
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on May 6th 2019, 9:48 pm
@Marc Spector wrote:
@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Sons of Dathomir is both Legends and Canon, lol
SoD is not part of the legends timeline/continuity. It is Canon ONLY
Many EU fans say otherwise, but they're denying fact. Your head canon =/= reality
Lmao ask @Darth JooJ , he's literally got a copy of SoD with the legends thingy on the top
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on May 6th 2019, 9:49 pm
@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:
@Marc Spector wrote:
@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Sons of Dathomir is both Legends and Canon, lol
SoD is not part of the legends timeline/continuity. It is Canon ONLY
Many EU fans say otherwise, but they're denying fact. Your head canon =/= reality
Lmao ask @Darth JooJ , he's literally got a copy of SoD with the legends thingy on the top

Hm. If that's true, then that would likely be a publisher error, given they wouldn't put a Legends label on a book that's also Canon.
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on May 6th 2019, 9:54 pm
@DarthAnt66 wrote:
@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:
@Marc Spector wrote:
@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Sons of Dathomir is both Legends and Canon, lol
SoD is not part of the legends timeline/continuity. It is Canon ONLY
Many EU fans say otherwise, but they're denying fact. Your head canon =/= reality
Lmao ask @Darth JooJ , he's literally got a copy of SoD with the legends thingy on the top

Hm. If that's true, then that would likely be a publisher error, given they wouldn't put a Legends label on a book that's also Canon.

the SF Malak quote is likely a publisher error TPM was Maul's Prime 4233314142 TPM was Maul's Prime 4037459623 TPM was Maul's Prime 3750555731
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on May 6th 2019, 10:09 pm
In-sidiousvader wrote:
@DarthAnt66 wrote:
@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:
@Marc Spector wrote:
@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Sons of Dathomir is both Legends and Canon, lol
SoD is not part of the legends timeline/continuity. It is Canon ONLY
Many EU fans say otherwise, but they're denying fact. Your head canon =/= reality
Lmao ask @Darth JooJ , he's literally got a copy of SoD with the legends thingy on the top

Hm. If that's true, then that would likely be a publisher error, given they wouldn't put a Legends label on a book that's also Canon.

the SF Malak quote is likely a publisher error TPM was Maul's Prime 4233314142 TPM was Maul's Prime 4037459623 TPM was Maul's Prime 3750555731
lol
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on May 6th 2019, 10:36 pm
@DarthAnt66 wrote:Hm, that depends on how we're defining Legends continuity. Note that Matt Martin, who's apart of the Lucasfilm Story Group, sees no reason why SoD wouldn't also be apart of both Legends and Canon continuity. 

Welcome to the forum, BTW. Glad to have you here.

Everything canon has to be Legends technically since Legends constitutes things that may or may not have happened. Canon constitutes things that certainly happened
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on May 7th 2019, 3:18 am
I agree, The Menace Phantom Maul is the strongest.
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on May 7th 2019, 10:20 am
Maul had grown more powerful since the last time he’d been in Sidious’s presence, before the Neimoidian invasion of Naboo had turned disastrous and Obi-Wan had bested him inside the Theed power core. His hermitage on Lotho Minor, his lessons on Unbara, his restoration by Mother Talzin, and his training of Savage had all strengthened him, made him a more worthy vessel for the Dark Side to fill with its power.
-Source : Darth Maul: Shadow Conspiracy
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on May 7th 2019, 10:35 am
@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Maul had grown more powerful since the last time he’d been in Sidious’s presence, before the Neimoidian invasion of Naboo had turned disastrous and Obi-Wan had bested him inside the Theed power core. His hermitage on Lotho Minor, his lessons on Unbara, his restoration by Mother Talzin, and his training of Savage had all strengthened him, made him a more worthy vessel for the Dark Side to fill with its power.
-Source : Darth Maul: Shadow Conspiracy

Darth Maul was a warrior in his prime never to be any better.
-The Menace Phantom Novel

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Don't @ me boi.
Spoiler:

you are right though lol
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on May 7th 2019, 10:40 am
In-sidiousvader wrote:
@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Maul had grown more powerful since the last time he’d been in Sidious’s presence, before the Neimoidian invasion of Naboo had turned disastrous and Obi-Wan had bested him inside the Theed power core. His hermitage on Lotho Minor, his lessons on Unbara, his restoration by Mother Talzin, and his training of Savage had all strengthened him, made him a more worthy vessel for the Dark Side to fill with its power.
-Source : Darth Maul: Shadow Conspiracy

Darth Maul was a warrior in his prime never to be any better.
-The Menace Phantom Novel

TPM was Maul's Prime 3146861145
Don't @ me boi.
Spoiler:

you are right though lol
The Menace Phantom :O
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on May 7th 2019, 10:50 am
You guys can say what you wish. That doesn't deny the fact that it is N Canon to the EU timeline. Legends Maul > Canon Maul
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on May 7th 2019, 10:57 am
@Marc Spector wrote:You guys can say what you wish. That doesn't deny the fact that it is N Canon to the EU timeline. Legends Maul > Canon Maul

dude that's not what we are saying lol

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Like let me make this perfectly clear, the debate as to whether SOD is Legends means nothing to me, though it slots in that's not the point.

The novel shadow conspiracy covers Maul's TCW escapades and clearly states he grew, so The Phantom Menace is not his prime like the title claims.
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on May 7th 2019, 11:26 am
Marc Spector
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on May 7th 2019, 11:31 am
TCW Maul may be stronger in the force, I'll admit that, but he lacks the combative feats of prime Maul.
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on May 7th 2019, 11:35 am
As I said earlier. That novel may be Legends, but SoD is not. The novel states that Maul had grown in POWER, but I dont take statements as fact, unless it's backed by feats. Which it's not. *TPM* Maul would dominate in a fight due to superior combative showings. Sorry 😂
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on May 7th 2019, 11:55 am
@Marc Spector Talzin literally performed a ritual that restored all of Maul's power and dozens of sources have confirmed that he continued to grow in power. As a duelist/martial artist then TPM might be his prime
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on May 7th 2019, 1:34 pm
Jason Fry, author of Shadow Conspiracy, has clarified that the increase mentioned in the novel is an overall increase. TCW Maul > TPM Maul in all aspects pertaining to combat. Sorry.
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on May 7th 2019, 2:19 pm
Nah guys. Maul became "more powerful", "strengthened" and "a more worthy vessel for the Dark Side to fill with its power", but you see, he's actually worse in a fight. And we know this because Marc told us.
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on May 10th 2019, 6:59 am
In-sidiousvader wrote:
@Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Maul had grown more powerful since the last time he’d been in Sidious’s presence, before the Neimoidian invasion of Naboo had turned disastrous and Obi-Wan had bested him inside the Theed power core. His hermitage on Lotho Minor, his lessons on Unbara, his restoration by Mother Talzin, and his training of Savage had all strengthened him, made him a more worthy vessel for the Dark Side to fill with its power.
-Source : Darth Maul: Shadow Conspiracy

Darth Maul was a warrior in his prime never to be any better.
-The Menace Phantom Novel

TPM was Maul's Prime 3146861145
Don't @ me boi.
Spoiler:

you are right though lol
Bro if a 5 year old is taller than he's ever been before, that doesn't mean he isn't taller when he's 20...
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