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S_W_LeGenD wrote:1. Luke Skywalker (15 points)
2. Valkorion (15 points)
3. Darth Sidious (14 points)
4. Vaylin (13 points)
5. Irek Ismaren (12 points)
6. The Alliance Commander (12 points)
7. Arcann (11 points)
8. Revan (10 points)
9. Exar Kun (9 points)
10. Tulak Hord (8 points)
11. Yoda (8 points)
12. Darth Krayt (7 points)
13. Darth Thanaton (6 points)
14. Mace Windu (5 points)
15. Darish Vol (4 points)

HellfireUnit wrote:you can't give points like that mate, starts from 15 and lowers until 1.

S_W_LeGenD wrote:1. Valkorion (15 points)
2. Luke Skywalker (14 points)
3. Vaylin (13 points)
4. Darth Sidious (12 points)
5. Irek Ismaren (11 points)
6. The Alliance Commander (10 points)
7. Arcann (9 points)
8. Revan (8 points)
9. Exar Kun (7 points)
10. Tulak Hord (6 points)
11. Yoda (5 points)
12. Darth Krayt (4 points)
13. Mace Windu (3 points)
14. Darth Thanaton (2 points)
15. Darish Vol (1 points)

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ wrote:

S_W_LeGenD wrote:1. Valkorion (15 points)
2. Luke Skywalker (14 points)
3. Vaylin (13 points)
4. Darth Sidious (12 points)
5. Irek Ismaren (11 points)
6. The Alliance Commander (10 points)
7. Arcann (9 points)
8. Revan (8 points)
9. Exar Kun (7 points)
10. Tulak Hord (6 points)
11. Yoda (5 points)
12. Darth Krayt (4 points)
13. Mace Windu (3 points)
14. Darth Thanaton (2 points)
15. Darish Vol (1 points)

Why Vaylin above the Alliance Commander? He surpasses Vaylin by the end of KOTET, as evidenced by the fact he is capable of defeating Vaylin and Arcann combined at the end of chapter 9. Arcann also senses that the Outlander had massive power growth after killing Vaylin in chapter 8.

S_W_LeGenD wrote:Vaylin is extremely talented and effective combatant as well - easily one of the very best in Legends continuity.

That she was able to overwhelm an entire battalion of Knights of Zakuul is self-explanatory in so many ways. Each Knight of Zakuul is superior to an average Jedi Knight, and THEY are very effective as a COALITION by virtue of their Limitless Power philosophy which encouraged exploration and sharing of talents. While The Eternal Fleet proved very effective against the fleets of the Republic and also the Empire, Knights of Zakuul proved very effective on the surface against all manner of opponents including Jedi and Sith.

A group of average Knights of Zakuul were about to overwhelm the TRIO of The Outlander, Sith Lord Lana Beniko and one of the most powerful Knights of Zakuul Senya Tirall, in an open-ended battle but Valkorion intervened and saved the TRIO.

Vaylin could also crush her mother in an instant but her feelings prevented her from doing so. Therefore, Vaylin's loss to her mother does not count.

Vaylin stalemated Arcann in another duel and she wasn't unchained yet. Arcann is stupendously skilled with a lightsaber and otherwise.

How Vaylin was taken down after being unchained, is not a mark against her from any perspective - the TRIO of The Outlander (significantly augmented by the powers of Valkorion), Arcann and Senya Tirall. Nobody would succeed in this situation.

Vaylin is as good in combat as one can be.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ wrote:Well yeah, but Vaylin is also flanked by horizon guards in that fight, and in the end Outlander pushes through Vaylin’s last ditch assault and kills her, then according to Arcann the Outlander received tremendous power growth to the extent he believes the Outlander “absorbed Vaylin’s strength.” Then in Chapter 9 Outlander is capable of overcoming both Arcann and Vaylin simultaneously, and at the very least defeats Vaylin solo.

5-Unuthul(11 points)

4/5. Darish Vol / UnuThul (12.5)

Dolph wrote:Yes. We're advocating that he be unbanned

10/11. Ivaar Workan / Kyp Durron (6.5)

Dolph wrote:I don't think we can make arguments in this thread
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