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Latham2000
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Can Force users use the Force to cure themselves of mental illnesses? Empty Can Force users use the Force to cure themselves of mental illnesses?

on Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:58 pm
Mental illnesses e.g. depession, are as bad as physical illnesses because doctors developed medications called antidepressants to treat them. Can Jedi or Sith use the Force to cure and heal themselves of that stuff? Discuss.


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HellfireUnit
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on Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:19 pm
I don't think so.
MasterCilghal
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on Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:25 pm
Cilghal can do something like that if I recall correctly.
Harbinger Kallig
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on Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:12 pm
I don't think so, I think Jedi would attempt to treat it with meditation and the like. While the Sith would most likely shrug it off. Of course this is a generalization as certain individuals could do different things, perhaps a Jedi could try to heal himself with the Force and a Sith could get therapy, even if it is only talking to someone that particular Sith would trust.
CuckedCurry
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on Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:42 pm
Vader has severe depression
Latham2000
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on Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:19 pm
Vader probably also has dissociative identity disorder.
BigMouthPrick
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on Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:51 am
Given most of the Sith are by definition sociopaths, I'd reason no.
MasterCilghal
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on Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:10 am
I actually found something, although it’s not exactly the same thing. In the novel Crisis at crystal reef Cilghal heals the black sun agent Anja Gallandro of her addiction, presumably to spice. If I understand correctly, Anja was force sensitive as she studied at Luke’s jedi academy for some time. Although Cilghal is one of, if not the best healer in jedi history, I think such a feat proves it is possible to do that.
HellfireUnit
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on Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:17 am
That's a nice one, however I don't think we can compare that to being able to cure sadism, Borderline, bipolar, depression etc.


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MasterCilghal
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on Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:21 am
@HellfireUnit wrote:That's a nice one, however I don't think we can compete that to being able to cure sadism, Borderline, bipolar, depression etc.
Take into account that Addictions are generally accepted as illnesses, and that Cilghal was just a knight at the time. But fair point anyway.
Nute_Chethray
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on Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:35 pm
Bardan Jusik. Bardan Jusik has without training shown the ability to heal people from complete mental disability (to the point it was thought he was dead) back to a fully functional state. Jusik was capable of scientificaly influencing the human mind, as well as trigger certain parts of the body to fix any issues with the mind.
The Ellimist
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on Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:14 am
Force users can use the Force to block pain, segment memories, look into one's emotions, etc., so very possibly. If they can TP others, why not themselves?
BreakofDawn
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on Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:33 pm
That'd require them to be open about it. Vader would never admit he has depression and early dissociate identity disorder because it'd be viewed as weakness. Sheev would never admit that he's a sadistic sociopath because he delights in his bloodlust. The Jedi would most likely encourage meditation and view the individual as being unbalanced if they had depression, anxiety, etc.

Theoretically, yes you could. There are different mind arts in Star Wars that work for almost anything except extreme mental fragmentation (which only an exceptionally proficient or powerful Force user could fix), e.g. the Barsen'Thor could teach someone to multi-task as efficiently as they could single-task but was unable to repair the President of Balmorra's mind when it was shattered by Darth Lachris. Depression and anxiety for example could be controlled through the Force unless perhaps when it is overwhelming depression, e.g. complete despair and hopelessness/chronic, bordering on suicidal depression. Dissociate identity disorder could also be corrected through meditation and drawing upon the Force to heal one's psyche (e.g. what Orgus Din did to the HoT in the SoR side-quest). However, psychopathy or sociopathy would be impossible to heal, only temper.

To cut this answer short: yes, but within reason.
No Hate Speech
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on Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:07 am
people don't need to be "cured" you ableist piece of shit, only "cure" we need is for toxic masculinity
HellfireUnit
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on Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:08 am
>people don't need to be cured
>we need cure for toxic masculinity


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Sjuttiosju
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on Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:11 am
Guys, stop the toxicity masculinity. We should stand with NoHateSpeech smh.
Sjuttiosju
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on Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:13 am
Also, I believe the thread in question was asking whether it was within the capability of force wielders to cure mental illness, nothing about whether they should or not was stated. So, my dear No Hate Speech, learn to read pls.
BreakofDawn
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on Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:42 am
When you put a serious, in-depth answer to a pretty interesting question then NoHateSpeech comes around with the pain train.
CaptainMarTuuk
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on Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:19 am
Force Heal has been used to cure stuff like the Karatos Plague (which would destroy your brain in like an hour) by Dooku. It would largely depend on the power of the User, as well as their particular skill in healing. Also, if you were trying to cure yourself, then anything that hampers your mental abilities (like insanity) is obviously going to make it impossible for you to cure yourself solely due to inability to concentrate/lacking the mental faculties to do so. Insanity wasn't all that uncommon in Force User, specifically in those who attempted to wield both sides of the Force to their full potential while not being the Chosen One (i.e: Abeloth and countless Sith) so I would expect that someone would have cured it, but I haven't ever heard of such a case.
Nute_Chethray
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on Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:30 pm
Cheth wrote:Bardan Jusik. Bardan Jusik has without training shown the ability to heal people from complete mental disability (to the point it was thought he was dead) back to a fully functional state. Jusik was capable of scientificaly influencing the human mind, as well as trigger certain parts of the body to fix any issues with the mind.
I forgot to address the full topic. If a forceuser can realise and accept they have a mental disability, then yes, they could fix it.
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