- Vaelias
How Powerful Is Anakin Skywalker | The ULTIMATE Anakin Skywalker Respect Thread UPDATED & EXPANDED (2023)
August 8th 2023, 8:50 pm
HOW POWERFUL IS:ANAKIN SKYWALKERDARTH VADER-THE CHOSEN ONE, THE SON OF SUNS, THE HERO WITH NO FEAR,THE BALANCE OF THE FORCE--
Primarily, I extend my recommendation that you engage in a comprehensive perusal of this discourse from inception to denouement, following the meticulously structured sequence I have delineated. A cursory perusal, replete with perfunctory skimming and perusal of scans, is regrettably insufficient for the full apprehension of the intricate tapestry woven herein. One should approach this exposition with a sagacious disposition, akin to embarking upon a narrative odyssey, as opposed to a mere compendium of disparate sources. Contrary to the conventional approach to Respect Threads, which tend to catalogue feats and achievements of the subject in an unordered and prosaic manner, I shall adopt a discerning and thematic approach. My aim is to dissect the corpus of knowledge pertaining to Anakin Skywalker, scrutinizing the modus operandi of his prodigious powers. In so doing, I shall expound upon a myriad of attributes, including his enigmatic conception, the prophecy of the Chosen One, his prodigious growth, and his martial prowess. Subsequently, I shall examine various interconnections, extraordinary feats, and mechanistic intricacies, all of which coalesce to craft a coherent tableau. The ultimate objective is to proffer a compelling argument substantiating the assertion that Anakin Skywalker unequivocally ranks as the preeminent figure of ultimate power within the expansive cosmos of the Star Wars Universe
This Respect Thread is meticulously aligned with the EU, Original, or Legends Continuity, albeit without precluding the applicability of these foundational tenets to the Disney canon. Indeed, the underpinning principles expounded herein derive directly from the cinematic oeuvre, rendering them potentially germane to the Disney canon as well. Thus, canon material shall be admissible when germane to filmic portrayals and enduring Force-related concepts shared across both continuities, which form an integral facet of the overarching mythos. This treatise is exclusively dedicated to the character of Anakin Skywalker, extending from his nascent origins through his transformative evolution into Darth Vader, yet NOT including any variation of Vader in his suit. These two distinct incarnations warrant discrete consideration when evaluating their respective potency. Moreover, I implore you to peruse the accompanying quotations assiduously, for they are indispensable in deciphering the intricate fabric of this exposition. Withal, I offer a mellifluous musical accompaniment for your auditory pleasure. Kindly indulge in this auditory tapestry as you embark on this intellectual journey about the most powerful character in Star Wars!
This Respect Thread is meticulously aligned with the EU, Original, or Legends Continuity, albeit without precluding the applicability of these foundational tenets to the Disney canon. Indeed, the underpinning principles expounded herein derive directly from the cinematic oeuvre, rendering them potentially germane to the Disney canon as well. Thus, canon material shall be admissible when germane to filmic portrayals and enduring Force-related concepts shared across both continuities, which form an integral facet of the overarching mythos. This treatise is exclusively dedicated to the character of Anakin Skywalker, extending from his nascent origins through his transformative evolution into Darth Vader, yet NOT including any variation of Vader in his suit. These two distinct incarnations warrant discrete consideration when evaluating their respective potency. Moreover, I implore you to peruse the accompanying quotations assiduously, for they are indispensable in deciphering the intricate fabric of this exposition. Withal, I offer a mellifluous musical accompaniment for your auditory pleasure. Kindly indulge in this auditory tapestry as you embark on this intellectual journey about the most powerful character in Star Wars!
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"In the time of great despair, a child shall be born who will destroy the Sith and bring balance to the force."
-Jedi Path
- Vaelias
CREATION AND POWER OF BALANCE
August 8th 2023, 8:54 pm
CREATION OF BALANCE
Anakin is the Chosen One, a being created out of a clash of Light and Dark Side energies in the Force, The Valley of the Jedi shows us how a clash of these energies creates an immensely volatile balance with a powerful light side center, this happened once before on a much smaller scale and resulted in the Valley of the Jedi Nexus, the power afforded by the balance only a mad man would tap into and is simply beyond both the light and dark sides, its boundless, limitless, Relaunched Fact File Issue 23 tells us that a clash of light and dark energies creates the volatile balance that is the Valley of the Jedi and then on the very next page tells us how the Chosen One is a balance created by light and dark energies. only with the Valley it's all the energies of the Jedi and Sith that created it, with Anakin its the energy all every single living being that creates him, the scale is much larger.
As shown similarly here, the threads of power of both sides passing through balance, balance created at the clash.
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POWER OF BALANCE?
Now we know how that balance power is created, just how powerful is this balance power? It is described as boundless, limitless could make one invincible and be used to kill billions if that power falls into the wrong hands
Anakin is the Chosen One, a being created out of a clash of Light and Dark Side energies in the Force, The Valley of the Jedi shows us how a clash of these energies creates an immensely volatile balance with a powerful light side center, this happened once before on a much smaller scale and resulted in the Valley of the Jedi Nexus, the power afforded by the balance only a mad man would tap into and is simply beyond both the light and dark sides, its boundless, limitless, Relaunched Fact File Issue 23 tells us that a clash of light and dark energies creates the volatile balance that is the Valley of the Jedi and then on the very next page tells us how the Chosen One is a balance created by light and dark energies. only with the Valley it's all the energies of the Jedi and Sith that created it, with Anakin its the energy all every single living being that creates him, the scale is much larger.
-As the Rebels celebrated their victory, three spectral forms in the Endor night represented an even greater triumph. With Anakin Skywalker's redemption and death, the Force had finally become Balanced, just as the prophecy had foretold. The very nature of prophecy is mysterious. The prophecy that spoke of a being who would bring balance to the force in a time of great darkness told of how that entity would be born of a concentration of the energies of both dark and light. Through generations of Jedi, the keenest Jedi philosophers had debated the prophecy without reaching any particular conclusion. Then a fateful chain of events led a Jedi Master to a chance meeting with a curious little boy - Relaunched Fact File 23
-The combination of Sith and Jedi Spirits became a potent - and potentially deadly - source of force power - Relaunched Fact File 23
-The combination of the Sith and Jedi souls made a potent mixture. Together, they formed a balance in the Force that resulted in a powerful light side center. -The Official Star Wars Fact File 129
-The combination of the Sith and Jedi souls made a potent mixture. Together, they formed a nexus in the Force that resulted in a powerful light side center. - Relaunched Fact File 23
-It was clear to Qui-Gon Jinn that Anakin himself represented the balance between the light and dark sides of the Force. Unforunatly, destiny - an the machinations of a Dark Lord - robbed the galaxy of Qui-Gon and delivered Anakin into the hands of the architect of the galaxy's troubles, Darth Sidious. Anakin's fall to the dark side of the Force was then almost inevitable. Those around him, those who loved him, were unable to prevent it, becoming victims as much as Anakin himself. as his own internal balance was affected, so the galaxy fell to the dark side. the traditional forces of light, such as the Jedi Order, were decimated. - Relaunched Fact File 23
-The Valley of the Jedi is soaked with the power of hundreds upon hundreds of Force-sensitives in a state of limbo. But the balance created between light and dark is immensely volatile, and only a fool or a madman would try to tap into it. Even after the spirits were freed, the death of so many Force-users there left a psychic bloodstain in its wake, and the valley still pulses with power. - Dark Forces
As shown similarly here, the threads of power of both sides passing through balance, balance created at the clash.
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Yes, my child, it did. You and I are tied together, runs through me. this way, I take your power
-Ghosts of Mortis Script
POWER OF BALANCE?
Now we know how that balance power is created, just how powerful is this balance power? It is described as boundless, limitless could make one invincible and be used to kill billions if that power falls into the wrong hands
-You’ll either protect the Valley of the Jedi from Jerec, or try to take the Valley’s limitless power for yourself. -Dark Forces 2 Game Manual
-”Skywalker was seduced by the dark side of the Force. His boundless abilities fueled a sense of pride that hastened his fall.” - Darth Vader: Databank
-”As Palpatine, he befriended Skywalker, becoming a close friend and a fatherly authority to a youthful warrior often confused by his seemingly boundless power and abilities he had at his disposal.” -Darth Sidious: Databank
-Gathering a cadre of Dark Jedi, Jerec sought out the valley of the Jedi on Ruusan, hoping to use its power to make himself invincible. -The Official Vehicles and Starships Collection 27
-You don't need guidance Anakin, In time you will learn to trust your feelings, then you will be invincible -Attack of the Clones
-The human knew without being told that this was a place of death, a prison full of unreleased spirits, and a repository of unthinkable power. Power so vast, so terrible, that it could extinguish a sun, plunge an entire solar system into darkness, and condemn billions to death. But only if it fell into the wrong hands... -Dark Forces: Rebel Agent
They called him the Chosen One. Then he murdered billions and they gave him other names, Found by Qui-Gon Jinn, trained by Obi-Wan Kenobi, corrupted by Emperor Palpatine, and saved by his son, Anakin Skywalker died fulfilling a prophecy nearly as old as the Jedi Order itself - New Essential Guide to Characters
- Vaelias
CONCEPTION
August 8th 2023, 8:54 pm
CONCEPTION
So Anakin embodies this balance power after this clash of light and dark side energies, but let's explore that a little deeper, ANYONE else is just another run of the mill savior, what sets Anakin aside and makes him the greatest of them all is his creation, his conception, a being born of pure force created from the manipulation of all Midi-Chlorians a being of boundless power. This is something entirely unique to Anakin Skywalker, no other character is The Chosen One, no one else is this strong.
-My power has no limits -Revenge of the Sith Video Game
-The key, he'd discovered, lay in an obscure legend obliquely referenced in the Journal of the Whills, about a hero fairly typical in most cultures-the sort of promised future savior who appears in the foundational myths of nearly every developed society. What distinguished this particular savior from his run-of-the-mill equivalents was that he, according to four of eleven possible translations, was to be "born of pure Force." After three standard years devoted specifically to exploring all possible permutations of the interpretation, Tenebrous determined that such a birth was indeed possible, at least metaphorically- "born of pure Force" could be read as indicating the creation of a living being through direct manipulation of midi-chlorian processes in an already living being. -The Tenebrous Way
-The Phantom Menace wrote:It is possible he was conceived by the Midi-Chlorian's
Manipulating these Midi-chlorians to create life involves starting cell divisions, and cell divisions create Living Force
-"I used the power of the Force to will the midichlorians to start the cell divisions that created you." "I don't believe you." "Ahhh, but you know it's true. When you clear your mind, you will sense the truth. You could almost think me as your father." "That's impossible!" - Revenge of the Sith Draft
-The midi-chlorians provide the energy for human cells to split and create life -George Lucas, Star Wars Archives
-That's why I split it into the personal [living] Force and the cosmic Force. The personal Force is the energy field created by our cells interacting and doing things while we are alive. When we die, we lose our persona and our energy is assimilated into the cosmic Force. -George Lucas
The Force is a metaphor for God, and God is essentially unknowable. But behind it is another metaphor, which fits so well into the movie that I couldn't resist it. Midi-chlorians are the equivalent of mitochondria in living organisms and photosynthesis in plants - I simply combined them for easier consumption by the viewer. Mitochondria create the chemical energy that turns one cell into two cells.
--George Lucas, Bill Moyers Time Magazine Interview; 1999.
Plagueis does it to all living beings, so to all Midi-Chlorians, which results in Anakin's creation, so Anakin's Living Force presence is the result of the cell splitting of every Midi-Chlorian in existence.
-Drunk on newfound power, then, he had attempted an even more unthinkable act: to bring into being a creation of his own. Not merely the impregnation of some hapless, mindless creature, but the birth of a Forceful being. The ability to dominate death had been a step in the right direction, but it wasn’t equivalent to pure creation. And so he had stretched out—indeed, as if invisible, transubstantiated—to inform every being of his existence, and impact all of them: Muunoid or insectoid, secure or dispossessed, free or enslaved. A warrior waving a banner in triumph on a battlefield. A ghost infiltrating a dream.
- Darth Plagueis
-The fact that Qui-Gon Jinn had identified Maul as a Sith was to be expected; but Dooku’s news about a human boy at the center of a vergence of the Force had come as a shock. More, Qui-Gon saw the boy as the Jedi’s prophesied Chosen One! He had to see this Anakin Skywalker for himself; had to sense him for himself. He had to know if the Force had struck back again, nine years earlier, by conceiving a human being to restore balance to the galaxy…
- Darth Plagueis
-“As we attempt to wrest the powers of life and death from the Force, as we seek to tip the balance, the Force resists our efforts. Action and reaction, Sidious. Something akin to the laws of thermodynamics.” -Darth Plagueis
-Darth Plagueis once boasted to his apprentice that he had found a way to create new life by directly manipulating the Midichlorians present in all living beings through the dark side of the Force. the resulting being would be the very embodiment of the force and be capable of incredible things. -Official Starships and Vehicles Collection 59
-Anakin Skywalker was perhaps the living result of Darth Plagueis’ experiments in creating life.He was certainly powerful, joining with Sidious to become Darth Vader even as his master destroyed the Old Republic and became Emperor of the Galaxy -Official Starships and Vehicles Collection 59
The being created would be the embodiment of the force, because his energy has been created from every Midi-chlorian in every living thing dividing and that energy clashes with the force, creating the clash of light and dark sides resulting in a powerful balance which manifests in Anakin.The child could have been the creation of sinister Sith manipulations, as the Dark Lords Darth Plagueis and Darth Sidious conspired to bring about the perfect apprentice by coaxing life from lifelessness. -Darth Vader Databank
A Zygote is a fully formed being that is already fertilized and just needs to grow in the mother, So Anakin is not even related to Shmi, he is a being of pure force, the agent of the Midi-Chlorians themselves, beyond the Jedi, he just grew in Shmi
To that end, Moore provided them with a female Bordali test subject. However, Moore herself had come into the possession of Force-sensitive DNA from an undisclosed source and was deeply interested in a technique once perfected by Darth Plagueis: influencing the midi-chlorians to create a zygote in a fertile female.
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this indeed is what sets Anakin apart from everyone else, nobody else is the chosen one and a vessel of pure force, Only Anakin, and this is why only he can fully defeat the dark side, because its all connected through him, as the balance/ embodiment of the force, and whatever way he tips himself spiritually he tips the Force with him, all that power from his conception runs through him.
What distinguished this particular savior from his run-of-the-mill equivalents was that he, according to four of eleven possible translations, was to be "born of pure Force." After three standard years devoted specifically to exploring all possible permutations of the interpretation, Tenebrous determined that such a birth was indeed possible, at least metaphorically- "born of pure Force" could be read as indicating the creation of a living being through direct manipulation of midi-chlorian processes in an already living being. -The Tenebrous Way
"Fully defeated by just anyone, the dark side cannot be, but only by the Chosen One. And who might be this Jedi? Know I do not, but not yet born is he or she. This much, sense I can. A vessel of pure Force the Chosen One will be, more powerful than any Jedi in history." -Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force
Young Anakin Skywalker exceeded all expectations despite starting out in life as a slave on Tatooine, an exceptional child who was believed to be a pure creation of the force young Anakin was a talented mechanic an unrivaled pilot and eventually a celebrated hero of the clone wars though reckless and willful, Anakin believed he would fulfill the prophecy as the chosen one and become the most powerful Jedi in history -Galactic Pop Up Adventure
-The midi-chlorians have brought Anakin into being as 'the chosen one' who brings balance to the universe. The mystery around that theory is that we don't yet know whether the chosen one is a good or a bad person. He is to bring balance to the Force; but at this point, we don't know what side of the Force needs to be balanced out.
-Lucas- The Making of Episode 1, Random House, 1999
-Book of Sith wrote:
-Relaunched Fact File 109 wrote:Qui-Gon had reported a convergence in the force, centred around a small boy from Tatooine. The prophecy of the ‘Chosen One’ - an individual destined to bring balance to the force - was of particular interest to the Jedi
The chosen one would surely be a vessel of pure energy, someone who was fathered into existence by the midi-chlorians themselves to act as their agent. Such a being would be beyond the authority of the Jedi Council. -Jedi Path
Agent = a person who acts on behalf of another person or group
And of course the Midi-Chlorians tell us the will of the Force
The Phantom Menace wrote:They continually speak to use, telling us the will of the Force
Anakin acting as their agent would mean he speaks for the will of the Force, his internal imbalance is the galaxies imbalance, He is the balance in the force, the embodiment of the force, the same as the father its all connected through him, so what he does, the Force does too. Its synonymous
-Representing the balance point of the force, the Father recognised in Anakin someone powerful enough to replace him and keep either of his children from dominating the other
- Relaunched Fact File 75
-It was clear to Qui-Gon Jinn that Anakin himself represented the balance between the light and dark sides of the Force.
-Relaunched Fact File 23
-Father, Daughter and Son - were incredibly strong with the Force. With the Father as a point of balance, the Daughter and Son represented the light and dark sides of the Force respectively. The elderly Father wanted Anakin, the Chosen One, to take his place and bring balance to the Force. Refusing, Anakin an the others tried to leave
- Relaunched Fact File 75
The Father knew his days were numbered -- facing his impending demise, he needed to find another to keep the balance. His goal was the same described in an ancient Jedi prophecy -- the rise of a Chosen One who will bring balance to the Force. -The Father In the Encyclopedia
My Anakin's Conception Video...
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THE CHOSEN ONE OF MORTIS
August 8th 2023, 8:55 pm
THE CHOSEN ONE OF MORTIS
The Prophecy of the Chosen One originates during the First Great Schism in 24,000BBY, its one of the oldest Prophecies of Mortis, all those years ago The Father knew he would one day die and at that time The Chosen One must replace him, This Prophecy is synonymous with the Son of Suns Prophecy (A different name) The Prophecy later was changed to be about destroying the Sith, rather than replacing the Father.
-The Complete Encyclopedia wrote:
Essential Guide to Characters wrote:
-Jedi Path wrote:Many will wonder whether the prophecy of the Chosen One still applies to modern time. After all, the shape-changing Sith have been extinct for nearly nine hundred years. Master Sooloot believed the prophecy dated from the First Greath Schism, and that the line about the Sith was added later to refine the original text.
The prophecy of the Chosen One is one of the oldest prophecies of Mortis held in the ancient Holocrons. In the time of great despair, a child shall be born who will destroy the Sith and bring balance to the force.
-Jedi Path
The Prophecy says that A Chosen One shall come born of no father, a vessel of pure force/balance, and only through him can ultimate balance be restored
He will come at a time where the darkness has become more powerful than the light, the light having been more powerful forever, which makes this the greatest darkness of all time, referred to as THE dark times, the Greatest Despair, Anakin is the answer to this, the purpose of his power is to combat this
-For over a thousand generations, Luke the Jedi Knights were the most powerful, most respected force in the galaxy. -A New Hope Novelisation
-Again, Lucas does not tell the audience whether the story is set in the past, present or future. We learn that the Jedi Bendu knights have known the force of others for a hundred thousand years, and that they were the most powerful warriors in the Universe until “the tragic Holy Rebellion of “06””.66 However, it is not revealed whether “06” refers to a specific period of time. -Star Wars, The Rough Draft, May 1974
-For over a thousand generations Jedi Knights were the most powerful, most respected force in the galaxy... the guardians of peace and justice in the old republic. That was when the galactic senate ruled the galaxy before the dark times, before the empire.
- Adventures of Luke Skywalker as taken from The Journal of the Whills
-Until the recent GREAT REBELLION, the JEDI BENDU were the most feared warriors in the universe. For one hundred thousand years -Star Wars Adventures of Luke Starkiller
-In the time of great despair, a child shall be born who will destroy the Sith and bring balance to the force. -Jedi Path
-“In the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns, and in the ages beyond, the worlds will be remade, as in the splendor of its earliest days, and they will never again feel sorrow or harm.”
-Journal of the Whills
-“that a Chosen One would be born in the dark times to restore balance to the Force.” “And Anakin Skywalker was thought to have been this Chosen One?” Lu said in astonishment
-Dark Lord Rise of Darth Vader
-There is an unprecedented disturbance in the force. Windu thinks that Anakin, given his dexterity and self confidence, could be the Chosen One, the one who will bring balance to the force -Attack of the Clones Souvenir Guide
-“But, as you can see,” Kenobi continued, “I have not one but two apprentices. As you are no doubt aware, a galactic civil war has erupted, a dehumanizing war fought principally between droids and genetically altered clones, upending many Jedi dogmas suited to obsolete realities. “Yet, the Jedi have a prophecy. That prophecy states that in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, a Chosen One…” “You know,” Anakin said, “I have a really good feeling about this.” Sitting now, Halagad inspected his hairline in his medallion. “I think he’s overdoing it.” “You should’ve seen him on Ansion.” “We believe,” the general continued, “that the One of that ancient prophecy will bring balance to the galaxy in a time of great crisis! We believe that time is now, and we believe that One is not only come, but he is here. Among us!” “Showtime, Hal.” Anakin said, shaking off his robe. “Ready?” “You mean I have a choice?” “Just don’t drop me.” “No promises.” “He is that man, that walker, as you call him!” Obi-Wan concluded. “He is Anakin-of the clan, Skywalker!” -Skyewalkers
-“Sorry, General. We’re Thyrsus Sun Guard stock. Save those pathetic orders for your Mandalorian-cloned handmaidens.” “They really don’t like Mandalorians,” Anakin said. “I can’t say that I blame them,” Obi-Wan said. “Let me try.” Anakin cleared his throat. “Tark Squad! This is Commander Skywalker! The Chosen One. The Son of the S-” “Go bork yourself, wizard!” Anakin turned to his master. “They really don’t like Jedi, either.” “Living prophets,” Obi-Wan emended. “Move!” -Skyewalkers
-Since he was a child, Anakin Skywalker had shown strong Force powers. The Jedi High Council's oldest member, Yoda, prophesied that "the child will bring balance to the Force someday." That prophecy became a reality, as Anakin was led to the dark side of the Force and became the Sith Lord Darth Vader. Anakin Skywalker -Seven-Eleven Japanese Force Collection Card
No one else has a Midi Count higher than Anakin's
-The Phantom Menace Script wrote: OBI-WAN Strange. The transmission seems to be in good order, but the reading's off the chart... over twenty thousand. QUI-GON (almost to himself) That's it then. OBI-WAN Even Master Yoda doesn't have a midi- chlorian count that high! QUI-GON No Jedi has.
-Star Wars Fandex Deluxe Edition wrote:
-Blueprints Ultimate collection - 2008 wrote:
-Star Wars Chronicles: The Prequels wrote:
-Star Wars Chronicles: The Prequels wrote:
-What is a Sith Warrior? wrote:
Because of Anakin Skywalker's incredible Midi count he also possesses an enormous amount of Whills, Whills control the Universe and can move in and out of cells and they feed off the Force and the more of the Force there is the better off they are, they speak to the Midi's which speak to us, so the more Midi's and Force the better they can do their job and command the Universe if they have a host with more Force Energy, meaning that host would have greater ability to mold and shape the galaxy and control the universe, defined by their host Anakin is a honeypot site for the Whills who controls everything, and is their agent, this is also why Sidious seeks to obtain Anakin. Since he can warp reality and do things that are impossible to do
-Phantom Menace wrote:They live inside me? Inside your cells yes
-George Lucas: Archives wrote:"The Whills are a microscopic, single-celled lifeform like amoeba, fungi, and bacteria. There's something like 100.000 times more Whills than there are Midichlorians, and there's about 10.000 times more Midichlorians than there are human cells.
The only microscopic entities that can go into the human cells are the Midichlorians. They are born in the cells. The Midichlorians provide the energy for human cells to split and create life. The Whills are single-celled animals that feed on the Force. The more of the Force there is, the better off they are. So they have a very intense symbiotic relationship with the Midichlorians and the Midichlorians effectively work for the Whills.
It is estimated that we have 100 trillion microbes in our body and we are made up of about 90% bacteria and 10% human cells. So who is in service to him?
I know this is the kind of thing that fans just go berserk over because they say, "We want it to be mysterious and magical", and "You're just doing science." Well, this isn't science.
This is just as mythological as anything else in Star Wars. It sounds more scientific, but it's fiction.
It's saying there is a big symbiotic relationship to create life, and to create the Force, but if you look at all the life-forms in the universe, most of them are one-celled organisms. I think of one-celled organisms as an advanced form of life because they've been able to travel through the universe. They have their own spaceships - those meteorites that we get every once in a while. They've been living on those things for thousands of years, they've been frozen, unfrozen, and can survive almost anything.
The once-celled organisms have to have a balance. You have to have good ones and bad ones otherwise it would extinguish life. And if they go out of balance, the dark side takes over."
-But there’s this world of creatures that operate differently than we do, Lucas said. I call them the Whills. And the Whills are the ones who actually control the universe. They feed off the Force.” -James Cameron’s Story of Science Fiction
--James Cameron’s Story of Science Fiction wrote:"The midi-chlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force."
-The chosen one would surely be a vessel of pure energy, someone who was fathered into existence by the midi-chlorians themselves to act as their agent. Such a being would be beyond the authority of the Jedi Council.
-Jedi Path
-Ghosts of Mortis Deleted Scene wrote:He who controls Skywalker will control everything
Between Anakin's will and the will of the force there is no contest, the Chosen One overpowers the will of the Force, he defines the Whills and in turn the Will and thusly will bring balance to the Force
-Revenge of the Sith wrote:Every bone in his body ached with helplessness. Because he knew:
that fragment of a ship was a death trap. No one could land such a
hulk, not even Skywalker. Each second that passed before its final
breakup and burn was a miracle in itself, a testament to the gifts of
a pilot who was justly legendary— but when each second is a
miracle, how many of them can be strung together in a row?
This is Anakin Skywalker's masterpiece
Many people say he is the best star pilot in the galaxy, but that's
merely talk, born of the constant HoloNet references to his
unmatched string of kills in starfighter combat. Blowing up vulture
droids and tri-fighters is simply a matter of superior reflexes and
trust in the Force; he has spent so many hours in the cockpit that he
wears a Jedi starfighter like clothes. It's his own body, with thrusters
for legs and cannons for fists.
What he is doing right now transcends mere flying the way Jedi
combat transcends a schoolyard scuffle.
He sits in a blood-spattered, blaster-chopped chair behind a
console he's never seen before, a console with controls designed for
alien fingers. The ship he's in is not only bucking like a maddened
dewback through brutal coils of clear-air turbulence, it's on fire and
breaking up like a comet ripping apart as it crashes into a gas giant.
He has only seconds to learn how to maneuver an alien craft that not
only has no aft control cells, but has no aft at all.
This is, put simply, impossible. It can't be done.
He's going to do it anyway.
Because he is Anakin Skywalker, and he doesn't believe in
impossible.
He extends his hands and for one long, long moment he
merely strokes controls, feeling their shape under his fingers, lis-
tening to the shivers his soft touch brings to each remaining
control surface of the disintegrating ship, allowing their resonances to
join inside his head until they resolve into harmony like a Ferroan
joy-harp virtuoso checking the tuning of his instrument.
And at the same time, he draws power from the Force. He
gathers perception, and luck, and sucks into himself the instinctive,
preconscious what-will-happen-in-the-next-ten-seconds intuition that
has always been the core of his talent. And then he begins.
On the downbeat, atmospheric drag fins deploy; as he tweaks
their angles and cycles them in and out to slow the ship's descent
without burning them off altogether, their contrabass roar takes
on a punctuated rhythm like a heart that skips an occasional beat.
The forward attitude thrusters, damaged in the ship-to-ship battle,
now fire in random directions, but he can feel where they're
raking him and he strokes them in sequence, making their song
the theme of his impromptu concerto.
And the true inspiration, the sparkling grace note of genius
that brings his masterpiece to life, is the soprano counterpoint: a
syncopated sequence of exterior hatches in the outer hull sliding
open and closed and open again, subtly altering the aerodynamics
of the ship to give it just exactly the amount of sideslip or lift or
yaw to bring the huge half cruiser into the approach cone of a
pinpoint target an eighth of the planet away.
It is the Force that makes this possible, and more than the
Force. Anakin has no interest in serene acceptance of what the
Force will bring. Not here. Not now. Not with the lives of
Palpatine and Obi-Wan at stake. It's just the opposite: he
seizes upon the Force with a stark refusal to fail.
He will land this ship.
He will save his friends.
Between his will and the will of the Force, there is no contest
-The Clone Wars Encyclopedia wrote:
-Clone Wars Episode Guide wrote:
starwars.com | The Prophecy of the Chosen One is Revealed! (2011) wrote:"This is a very important chapter in Anakin's development," says Dave Filoni, supervising director of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. "The prophecy of the Chosen One was touched on in the films, but never like this. We're going to look at what it means for Anakin and the galaxy. We wanted to give it the proper connection to the larger saga. I am very grateful to have Liam Neeson and Pernilla August reprising their roles from the live-action films. They are each so important to Anakin's journey, and to have them on our series has been incredible."
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--Clone Wars Comic Magazine UK 6.19 wrote:
This feet is but a glimpse of Anakin's power.
Clone Wars Comic Magazine UK 6.19 wrote:
Being the Chosen One / The Embodiment of Balance, makes you powerful enough to control both the Son and Daughter, Anakin proves to have this power, because of his creation, he is the balance like the father, they are the same in nature, all the threads of life pass through him so he is the ONLY one who can tame both the children.
-"Only the chosen one could tame both my children." -The Father, Overlords
-Anakin tames the Force and faces his destiny! Ever since we first heard about Anakin's destiny as the Chosen One we've all wondered what it meant, and in the Mortis trilogy, we get an answer - as well as this terrifying glimpse of Anakin's raw power, as he controls the supernatural avatars of both the dark and the light. -Clone Wars Magazine #4
-The Father saw Anakin as a worthy successor to his position of balance. He tested Skywalker, proving that he had the raw Force ability to hold back the powers of the Son and Daughter. -Anakin in the Encyclopedia
-For a man who has already served the opposing roles of peacekeeping Jedi and war-time general, and given his preternatural Force abilities and high midi-chlorian count, it makes sense. If the Father can no longer preside over his dueling children, Son and Daughter, Anakin is the only one in the universe, it seems, strong enough to keep them in check in his absence, at least in this strange world that seems to operate purely on a metaphysical level. -Overlords Rewatch
-Anakin demonstrates his power with the force by freeing both, and making the ones take their forms again -The Ultimate Visual Guide: Updated and Expanded
-The Father wanted Anakin Skywalker to take his place. He recognised that Anakin was powerful enough to maintain the balance between dark and light, but Anakin rejected the offer -Relaunched Fact File 59
-But there’s something unsettling about the way he commands Daughter and Son. Like the ghosts inhabiting Mortis, appearing as visions of Qui-Gon Jinn from the past and Ahsoka from the future, Anakin’s display of raw power is a specter of things to come. -Overlords Rewatch
(Master of Mortis)
Clone Wars Comic Magazine 6.17 wrote:
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-They, like me, believe him to be the chosen one. You were right. The force within him is stronger than any known Jedi. - Overlords
-Relaunched Fact File #75 wrote:
-Relaunched Fact File #75 wrote:
-The monastery where the Father lived acted as a balance point between the dark side of the Force, as represented by the Son, and the light side, by the Daughter.The Father was the physical manifestation of that critical balance point -Relaunched 59
-The Father In the Encyclopedia wrote:
(Balance power meant to be powerful enough to beat the other two sides into submission together, it is far stronger than both sides)
These three beings are incarnations of the force itself, The Son represents the unfettered dark side, the Daughter is the pure light side, and the Father is the mediator between his two children, his strength keeping either one from overwhelming the other. Each can take any form they choose and likely are not creatures of flesh and blood
- Nexus of Power
Mortis is the point where all energy in the galaxy flows, a point unlink any other
-Relaunched #59 wrote:
-Relaunched #59 wrote:
-Relaunched Fact File 75 wrote:
Overlords Script wrote:"Unlike any other. A conduit through which the entire Force of the universe flows.
Picture it like threads in a tapestry, and all the threads for every living being cross at Mortis, that energy embodied in the One's. Take a look at the Heart of the Jedi Nexus for some insight for how this works
-It was a grid work of uncountable fine threads, running here and there to various points, connecting, linking, crossing, intertwining in a complex woven fabric that seemed to bind all into a whole tapestry. And many threads shot away from it into the surrounding space, as if stretching out to touch other worlds. “It’s the lines of energy!” said Luke. “I can see them!” -Heart of the Jedi
It is strong with the Force. The threads of energy which interweave to bind all life together have many crossings there. It is a collection point, its concentrated power form a sort of gateway into the pure essence of all being.
-Heart of the Jedi
And it is the exact same thing with Mortis except through Mortis pass all the threads in the Galaxy, all the power.
Which is the same power that is within Anakin, his internal balance is the balance of the galaxy exactly like how the balance of Mortis is the balance of the galaxy, he is connected to all life in the galaxy because of his conception, a manifestation of this balance power conceived from all living beings, Anakin is the same as Mortis, the difference between him and the Father is that the Father embodies the power that flows through Mortis, Anakin embodies the same power as he does although it does not need to flow through Mortis, it flows through him, from within him, Anakin's heart is Mortis, It is all within Anakin, which ties into how it is all a Metaphor, because its all happening inside his heart and his heart is that power, that's not to say its not real but you could look at the One's as angels on the shoulder, manifestations of the mind and how that influences the power within the heart, but no matter how you look at it, one thing is for sure, Anakin functions the same as Mortis, all that power is within him, that is the balance power and there is no greater power than that. I will get more into this in the Anakin's Guilt section
-Alter of Mortis Script wrote:As the balance in this world crumbles, so shall war escalate in your galaxy.
as his own internal balance was affected, so the galaxy fell to the dark side. the traditional forces of light, such as the Jedi Order, were decimated. - Relaunched Fact File 23
-Overlords Episode Gallery wrote:
This is also why The Son needs Anakin to leave Mortis to manifest that Mortis power outside of Mortis using Anakin.Overlords Script wrote:stay on this path and you will do it again for the galaxy, but beware your heart
Note that the Heart is where the Vital Gate for the spirit is, aka the Furnace gate where Anakin releases his heart, the heart is where all that Mortis Power is.
It must be understood that anger can be funneled through the body and released near the heart at the "vital gate"
-Book of Sith
Anakin, The Chosen One is the the only one powerful enough to take up this role, as of Season 3 of The Clone Wars. 44ABY Luke thinks that the combined might of the Jedi can take the Daughter's place, and the combined Sith take the Son's
-“And we must learn the truth about this latest incarnation of the Sith. Who is the Dark Man who came to my aid against Abeloth?” … “I said at the beginning of this entry that there are some wars only the Jedi can fight, and that is true. But it’s also true that only the Jedi can restore Balance to the Force. And to do so, we must dedicate ourselves completely to the Light.” -Essential Guide to Warfare
“The galaxy was tipping toward darkness before their eyes, and as far as Luke could see, the Jedi and their allies were the only ones capable of restoring the Balance. If they did not dedicate themselves completely to the light, all would be lost.” -Fate of the Jedi: Apocalypse
And then talks about how Anakin can embody it all, individually
In Yoda’s story, Obi-Wan and Anakin Skywalker encountered the Father when he was dying. The Son and the Daughter were at odds because the Son wanted to take the Father’s place. The Father told Anakin that he had been chosen to assume the Father’s place—and keep the balance between the two siblings. When Anakin refused, matters came to a head. The Ones fought, all three were slain, and their world died with them.” -Fate of the Jedi: Apocalypse
Which the thought of is jaw dropping for Jaina, the same Jaina who is privy to the full power of Luke Skywalker
-“I found confirmation in a report from Obi-Wan,” Luke said. “It was just as Yoda told me. Obi-Wan seemed to think that he and Anakin had been drawn to Mortis because the Father was dying and wanted Anakin Skywalker to take his place as the Keeper of the Balance.” Jaina’s jaw dropped. “Chosen One indeed,” she said. “What happened?” “Obviously Anakin didn’t accept,” Luke said. “The Son ended up murdering the Daughter with a special Force-imbued dagger, and the Father tricked the Son by sacrificing himself with the same dagger—so that Anakin could kill the Son. -Fate of the Jedi: Apocalypse
Furthermore we see Luke Skywalker struggle to handle all the power in the Galaxy on Mortis, Anakin can do it just fine yet Luke's body glows and can barely contain the balance power...
Crucible wrote:"Luke charged across the desert forever, Leia at his side. They had opened themselves to the Force completely, and it was pouring into them from all sides, raw and potent and unformed, neither dark nor light until it entered them and they made it so. It devoured them as it sustained them, filled them with a boiling storm of power their bodies could not long sustain." "The Columi’s hands quickly fluttered up and hurled the boulder back toward him. By then Luke was overflowing with the Force. He felt as if he were burning from the inside out, being incinerated by the raw power flowing into him and through him." "The two Jedi had become golden balls of lightning, dancing back and forth between the rumbling darkness of the two Qreph brothers. The fight became a battle, the battle a war, and the war a conflagration—an endless storm of thunder and blood that raged across the yellow desert for all eternity. " "A second passed, or perhaps it was an eternity, then a pair of golden figures emerged from the smoke, so dazzling it hurt Han’s eyes to look at them. He stared anyway. They were Luke and Leia, healed by the Force and looking stronger—and more powerful—than ever
And that is because Luke is not the Chosen One he is not the Father he is not born of a concentration of all energy in the galaxy not connected to every living thing, clearly unsuited to handle the balance power on Mortis, sure, It is a different thing happening to Luke and Leia, they aren't just wielding the power they are being rebuilt, but there CANNOT be more actual power than all the power in the galaxy, which is what Anakin uses on Mortis prior to this, so its the same amount of power doing a different thing.
Luke and Leia are unsuited to handle this power because not only do they not benefit from the boons of Anakins conception, a vergence of all the threads of life, but the Skywalker Midi-Chlorian Count also dilutes, they are not 'pure force' as seen in Fate of the Jedi, where Ben Skywalker is closer to Pure Force than Jaina Solo because of his lineage. Anakin is the Pure Force an it is diluted from there. Lucas says Luke cannot kill the Emperor (Greatest Despair) because he is not the Chosen One despite them both being equals at the time in Living Force power, but Vader is bound to all life, he is the only one who is and thus the only one who can save the galaxy
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-The only thing Ben didn’t understand was why. There were hundreds of powerful young Jedi in the galaxy, and dozens right there on Coruscant. Yet Abeloth had gone to elaborate lengths to capture him, to lure him into a trap and separate him from his companions. There had to be something special about him— something that Abeloth needed from Ben that no other young Jedi could provide. The obvious answer, of course, was lineage. Ben was the only child of Luke Skywalker, who himself was the only son of the Chosen One, Anakin Skywalker. Of course, Jaina Solo was also a grandchild of the Chosen One—but only one of her parents had the Force. So that had to bewhat Abeloth needed from him—his bloodline. -Fate of the Jedi: Apocalypse
-”That doesn’t explain the focus on Ben,’ Kyle said, ‘if it was just a matter of being a Force-user, Abeloth could have taken Valin or Jysella—or one of her Sith servants—just as easily. It’s something else . . . something that makes Ben special. ‘Well, he is a Skywalker,’ Kyp Durron pointed out. ‘The grandson of the Chosen One.’ ‘And Jaina is a granddaughter of the Chosen One,’ Luke countered. ‘I’m more inclined to think it has something to do with Shelter. Maybe Abeloth just wants him because he withdrew from her touch when he was a toddler.’ Kyp shook his head. ‘Sorry, but no,’ he said. ‘Jaina is Han’s daughter just as much as Leia’s, and that means only one parent is a Force-user. Ben is the son of two parents who were very strong in the Force. No offense to Jaina, but Ben has Special Destiny written all over him.’ Luke’s face fell, and Jaina could tell by the silence that followed that he saw the wisdom of Kyp’s suggestion—as did everyone else at the table. Abeloth had gone after Ben because of what Ben was . . . and that meant she had something special in mind for him.”
-Fate of the Jedi: Apocalypse
-The tale meanders and both the prediction and Qui-Gon are correct Anakin is the chosen one, and he did bring peace at last with his own sacrifice. Luke couldn't kill the Emperor himself, but he could make Anakin reflect on his life and kill the Emperor. Lucas Cult Magazine 1999
-Star Wars Insider wrote:
I will also point out here that all of the quotes that pertain to Luke having more potential than Anakin date to before the Chosen One prophecy was a concept, before TPM or TCW when Anakin was just a 'Powerful Jedi" and not the incarnation of god, this was a purely C-Canon Narrative that was retconned with Anakin's Chosen One Prophecy Narrative in TPM and then even further retconned in TCW when they expound largely on what being the Chosen One means and say in the episode "Only the Chosen One could tame both my children"
-Rebels Recon #4.7: Inside \"Wolves and a Door" and "A World Between Worlds" wrote:The Mortis gods were a concept created by George when we worked on The Clone Wars. And he had us do this arc that basically dealt with Anakin being tested by these Force wielders, as George called them, to see if he was this prophesied chosen one
also note that the whole "But the Son could become that" quote that everybody misinterprets to mean that The Son could become what Anakin was meant to be is not saying that the son (Luke) could be as strong as a full potential Anakin, the thing Luke could become that Anakin was meant to be in the context of this quote is a worthy apprentice for Sheev to rule the galaxy with, somebody who wasn't a sub TPM Kenobi cripple old man, someone with the actual apprentice to surpass him
"And when he finds out Luke is his son, his first impulse is to figure out a way of getting him to join him to kill the Emperor. That's what Siths do! He tries it with anybody he thinks might be more powerful, which is what the Emperor was looking for in the first place: somebody who would be more powerful than he was and could help him rule the universe. But Obi-Wan screwed that up by cutting off his arms and legs and burning him up. From then on, he wasn't as strong as the Emperor -- he was like Darth Maul or Count Dooku. He wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that." --George Lucas, Rolling Stones Interview, 2005.
So Luke could become more powerful than Palpatine and rule the galaxy with him, providing he join the Emperor, Vader no longer could because of his injuries, that is all this quote is saying, It in no way infers Luke's potential surpasses Anakin's prior to his injuries
Video On why Anakin did NOT need to use the Mortis Nexus to tame the One's
- Vaelias
FUNCTIONS OF BALANCE
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FUNCTIONS OF BALANCE
So that's what being the chosen one means and what it affords with Anakin being the embodiment of the force, light and dark and its balance its the same with the father, the balance power utterly supreme literally meant to dominate both sides of the force, their power is connected both sides run through balance, Anakin is half Sith already
-These three beings are incarnations of the force itself, The Son represents the unfettered dark side, the Daughter is the pure light side, and the Father is the mediator between his two children, his strength keeping either one from overwhelming the other. Each can take any form they choose and likely are not creatures of flesh and blood - Nexus of Power
-What have you done? It did not have to be this way. Yes, my child, it did. You and I are tied together, runs through me. This way, I take your power. -Ghosts of Mortis Script
(Just remember this too)
-Overlords wrote:The planet is the Force, use it
Now this is all attributed to the power within Anakin
Anakin was gone; a memory so deeply buried he might have dreamed rather than lived it. The Force as Anakin knew it was interred with him, and inseparable from him. Just as Sidious promised, he was now married to the order of the Sith, and needed no other companion than the dark side of the Force. He embraced all that he had done to bring balance to the Force, by dismantling the corrupt Republic and toppling the Jedi, and he reveled in his power. It could all be his, anything he wished. He needed only the determination to take it, at whatever cost to those who stood in his way. -Dark Lord Rise of Darth Vader
Interred = in place (a corpse) in a grave or tomb
-They, like me, believe him to be the chosen one. You were right. The force within him is stronger than any known Jedi. - Overlords
-As his own internal balance was affected, so the galaxy fell to the dark side. the traditional forces of light, such as the Jedi Order, were decimated. - Relaunched Fact File 23
-"I see you becoming the greatest of all the Jedi, Anakin," Palpatine went on. "Even more powerful than Master Yoda." Anakin hoped his legs wouldn't simply buckle beneath him. He could hardly believe the words, and yet a part of him did believe them. There was a strength within him, a power beyond the limits the Jedi seemed to place upon him, and upon themselves. Anakin sensed that clearly. He knew that Obi-Wan didn't understand, and that was his biggest frustration with his Master. To Anakin's thinking, Obi-Wan's leash was far too short.
-Attack of the Clones Novelization
Having both light and dark running through him, embodying the balance, its this inner power which leads the galaxy through times of light and dark, his internal balance being the balance of the galaxy, This is what's going on inside Anakin... and he drags the galaxy through it with him, his turn to the dark side decimates the Light Side of the Force, the galaxy rests upon his decisions, he is the Force.
-But within the heart of the Republics favourite son, a growing firestorm is gathering strength. The corrosive effects of the conflict have tarnished the idealism of the Jedi way. Anakin has seen death and suffered often in the long war. his duel with the would be a Sith assassin Asajj Ventress, and the dismemberment inflicted upon him by Count Dooku, have left him scarred, but his inner wounds are more extensive still. Misgivings and doubt, fuelled by fear of loss and by pride, gnaw at Anakin Skywalker. His secret love and marriage to Senator Amidala fosters a quiet resentment of the stark law of the Order. Which forbids such attachments. The fear of losing those he loves. A seed planted with the death of his mother and nourished by prophetic nightmares begins to drive Anakin’s actions, and ever in his ear the softly spoken praise is the supreme chancellor stokes the fired of a young man’s vanity insidiously wilting his Jedi humility. Burning a wedge between him and his dearest, friend and mentor. Obi-Wan Kenobi, is he not the Chosen One, the greatest Jedi to have ever lived? Why then should he be bound by rules designed to limit his power. As war enters its final, dramatic days, the fiery turmoil within Anakin Skywalker gathers strength and threatens to consume him. Localities and agendas rest at him from all sides conflicting demands are made of him and sacrifices begged. Though he knows it, not. The slave become saviour holds the fate of the galaxy in his artificial palm. His choice governs the coming storm, the tempest will either be tamed or it will be unleashed upon the galaxy as an unstoppable scourge. Binding all under the tyranny of the Sith
-Slideshow Star Wars: Anakin Skywalker
-Anakin will be taken over by dark forces which in turn destroy the balance of the Galaxy, but the individual who kills the Emperor is Darth Vader—also Anakin. The tale meanders and both the prediction and Qui-Gon are correct Anakin is the chosen one, and he did bring peace at last with his own sacrifice. Luke couldn't kill the Emperor himself, but he could make Anakin reflect on his life and kill the Emperor. Lucas Cult Magazine1999
-- Labyrinth of Evil wrote:Fury clouded Anakin’s eyes. Lightsaber held high in his crooked
right arm, he whirled into the intersecting corridor. No need to use
the Force, as many Jedi said, for he was never anywhere but fully in
the Force. He called instead on his anger, bringing images to mind
to fuel his rage. It wasn’t difficult, with so many to choose from:
images of a Tusken Raider camp on Tatooine, Yavin 4, the defeat at
Jabiim, Praesitlyn …
-"Terrifies me, this possibility does, though feel fear I know we Jedi must not. If Anakin were ever to fall...the prospects for the galaxy, dire would be. We must hope the balance he brings is for good"
-Clone Wars Comic UK #7: Yoda Code
-What is a Sith Warrior? wrote:
-A child born of prophecy, possibly conceived by the will of the Force itself, Anakin Skywalker has left an indelible mark on the history of the galaxy, leading it through periods of lightness and dark. -Anakin Skywalker Databank
-Star Wars Comic Magazine 40 wrote:
-as his own internal balance was affected, so the galaxy fell to the dark side. the traditional forces of light, such as the Jedi Order, were decimated.
- Relaunched Fact File 23
-Overlords Script wrote:I cannot force you to do this. The choice must be yours. But leave and your selfishness shall haunt you
and the galaxy.
Anakin is the Star Wars equivalent of George Lucas' Elora Danan from Willow, which shares the same cosmology as Star Wars, The Force exists in both of them so we can look at Willow as an extension of SW in some other galaxy but its still George Commentary on the Force, George Lucas' Shadow Wars Trilogy goes into depth on how The Chosen One of the Willowverse in Elora Danan functions within the Force, being a mirror of Anakin Skywalker from conception to their destiny, we can get a unique insight on the deeper functions of the Chosen One, This is where the Chosen One idea expounded upon in the prequels and in TCW came from initially back in 1995.
(Child of Prophecy, Daughter of the Sun and Moon/Light and Dark to bring balance, same as Anakin)
-The Willow Sourcebook wrote:
Elora Danan: Databank wrote:
I am only going to go into these Force Mechanics insofar as they are relevant to Anakin here to avoid spiraling off...
Elora Danan lies at the center the same as how Anakin lies in the center of all the threads, remember this is still the Force and the same structure
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Shadow Dawn, George Lucas, Chris Claremont wrote:
As seen here with The Jedis Symbol for the Force
Which is exactly the same as the Holy Trinity and Plagueis' writings on the Force
(The Holy Trinity)
Plagueis' writings about the 3 different aspects of the Force
-Book of Sith wrote:
this is a combination of Four Element Theory and the Holy Trinity, Aristotle recognized that the heavens (celestial bodies) seemed to behave differently from the earthly realm. To account for the heavenly motions and the behavior of celestial bodies, he introduced the concept of quintessence or aether as a fifth element which lies in the middle similarly to what we see on the above diagrams. Quintessence/Aether was considered distinct from the four terrestrial elements, possessing unique qualities that made it suitable for the celestial realm. and that is depicted in the center, as is God In the Holy Trinity, however in the Trinity and the Elements Diagrams, there is only one circle in the middle not two as seen in Star Wars and Willow,
-Of Myth And Men: George Lucas Interview wrote:LUCAS: I guess it's more specific in Buddhism, but it is a notion that's been around before that. When I wrote the first Star Wars, I had to come up with a whole cosmology: What do people believe in? I had to do something that was relevant, something that imitated a belief system that has been around for thousands of years, and that most people on the planet, one way or another, have some kind of connection to.I didn't want to invent a religion. I wanted to try to explain in a different way the religions that have already existed. I wanted to express it all.
Willow’s World is a series that explores the fantasy realm first depicted in Lucasfilm’s 1988 adventure, Willow. From its diverse peoples and ranging landscapes to unusual creatures and mystical powers, the world of Willow Ufgood and his companions is a complex mixture of light, dark, and the bond between all living things.
-Lucasfilm.com
(Star Wars and Willow depicting 2 circles in the middle, not just one)
Because the inner circle is God in the Trinity Model and Aether in the Elements Model, we can gather that both Orange Circle there is The Force/The Great Mystery
-Shadow Moon wrote:The Great Mystery,” he’d heard the High Aldwyn announce in days that came as rarely to him in memory as in dream, “is the bloodstream of Creation. And the way we divine that mystery, the path by which we become One with All, is called sorcery,”
-Willow: A Novel wrote:"The Great Mystery is the bloodstream of the universe, and sorcery is the way to its energy.
-E.T The Book of the Green Planet wrote:E.T. himself had begun to feel this mystery gathering in his own form—
for he too was changing. His own path had taken such an unexpected
turning that he was no longer certain of life’s goal, as once he’d been. The
goal was mystery, the trail unmarked. And so one mystery faced another—
he and the wise Parent, a conundrum.
-Revenge of the Sith wrote:If one is to understand the Great Mystery one must study all its aspects
-Book of Sith wrote:The Force is found throughout the universe, not only in Living Things. everything in existence that draws upon various aspects of the energy we call the Force may be classified into three categories
-In the novelization of Willow by Wayland Drew, the fairy spirit Cherlindrea speaks to the movie’s namesake about earlier times when others dreamed of wielding magical powers. “Often they began as mere tricksters, performers of magic acts for their friends,” she tells him. “They crafted many devices—hollow feathers, hanging sleeves, hidden pockets. Some aspired to rise above these things and touch the infinite power of the Great Mystery; they longed to become true sorcerers. Only a very few achieved this end.” To be a sorcerer in Willow’s world is to connect with a power that seemingly binds all things together. “Magic is the bloodstream of the universe,” says the High Aldwin, spiritual leader of the Nelwyn village. Willow aspires to be his next apprentice, but initially fails to pass an all-too simple test. The High Aldwin holds out his hand to the group of would-be students. “The power to control the universe lies in which finger?” he asks. One by one, the Nelwyns choose a finger on the Aldwin’s hand, Willow last among them. “No apprentice this year!” the disappointed sage declares. --Lucasfilm.com
-- Father is not the Holy Spirit is not the Son is not the Father, all is God
-- World is not spirit is not flesh is not World, all is The Great Mystery/Force
-- Pneuma is not Aperion is not Anima is not Pneuma, all is The Great Mystery/Force
--The Father is not the Daughter is not the Son is not the Father, all are the Great Mystery/The Force
Then we get to the Red Circle in the Middle, which is the embodiment of the Force, which is Elora Danan and Anakin Skywalker, Look what Plagueis writes right below his graph
-Book of Sith wrote:
And of course remember
-Darth Plagueis once boasted to his apprentice that he had found a way to create new life by directly manipulating the Midichlorians present in all living beings through the dark side of the Force. the resulting being would be the very embodiment of the force and be capable of incredible things.
-Official Starships and Vehicles Collection 59
-Anakin Skywalker was perhaps the living result of Darth Plagueis’ experiments in creating life.He was certainly powerful, joining with Sidious to become Darth Vader even as his master destroyed the Old Republic and became Emperor of the Galaxy
-Official Starships and Vehicles Collection 59
ALL is the Force ALL is Anakin, Anakin is God
--The Father is not the Daughter is not the Son is not the Father, all are Anakin, Anakin is the Force.
Which means that him and Elora define God, define the Force, recall all the above about The Force being interred in Anakin and him actively shaping the galaxy himself
-Shadow Dawn wrote:“The Realms are bound,” she said, working through the problem aloud, beginning with the fundamentals she already knew. ‘The Circle of the World, the Circle of the Flesh, the Circle of the Spirit. Each of the three of us claims an aspect of the world, that means our actions, our use of active sorcery, must have an equivalent effect on it.”
-Shadow Dawn wrote:“You spoke last evening of the Great Realms,” he said, “existing within a network of three interlocking wheels. Twelve Realms, three wheels, four each: the Circle of the World, the Circle of the Flesh, the Circle of the Spirit. Each Realm marks a stage on an ascending spiral from the purely physical to the purely spiritual. “Evidently,” he continued, “you represent a fourth circle that overlies the other three. You touch them all, you link them all. In some respects, they much resemble gears in a celestial machine. The action of one affects the others.
-Shadow Dawn wrote:“There are Twelve Great Domains,” the dragon said, as much of the spirit as of the flesh. Elora Danan is the Thirteenth that binds them all.”
The quintessence/ Aether, unlike the other four elements, was eternal and unchangeable and incorruptible, as is god, Aether was thought to be associated with divine perfection, representing the unchanging and incorruptible nature of the stars and planets. According to Aristotle, the celestial bodies were made of this fifth element and moved in perfect circular motions around the Earth, which is what we see happen when the destiny aligns with Anakin on Mortis, the stars aligning spinning around
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As incorruptible and perfect God and Aether is, in Star Wars we get this same model but with this second circle in the middle of Aether and God, we get the embodiment of god and it his he who defines and shapes God, make no mistake Anakin is not a metaphor for Jesus/The Trinity Son, he is instead the embodiment of God itself put into form.
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In the Trinity The Father(Pneuma/Mind) is the Source who communicates the fullness of divinity to the Son and Holy Spirit, and
Mind - Father - Pneuma
Soul - Spirit - Anima
Body - Son - Aperion
The Father in Star Wars is Balance, and indeed Balance is of the mind its a mental thing of the Pneuma, what the Father represents
Rebels wrote:
'Exemplify' dark and light and the 'principle of balance'
Book of Sith wrote:
But all together make the Force and all together make Anakin, he has to balance them all in himself, hence Anakin see's himself in the Son
Altar of Mortis Episode Gallery wrote:
The Five Elements (space/aether, earth, water, fire, and air) are the essential elements or building blocks for all phenomena, not only in the physical universe but also in our physical and energetic bodies. Each element represents not only an energetic quality, but also takes physical form—and like all forms, each element exists separately but also exists interdependently. Each element needs, supports, and affects the other elements together providing a cohesive whole within an individual being. When the Five Elements are out of balance, illness, negative emotions and disharmony manifest. a fourth circle were to represent an overarching concept that touches and links the other three circles, it would essentially symbolize a unifying principle or element that connects the four humors and elements together.
This concept would have the potential to explain how these elements interact and influence one another. the fourth circle represents harmony or balance, suggesting that the ideal state of a person's well-being and temperament is achieved when all four humors and elements are in perfect equilibrium. This balanced state would mean that none of the humors dominate over others this unifying principle represents the interconnectedness of all things in nature. the four elements and humors are not isolated entities but are part of a larger system where each influences and is influenced by the others, "aether" has also been associated with the fourth circle or a unifying element that connects and transcends the traditional four elements (air, water, fire, and earth). Aether, also known as quintessence or the fifth element, was conceived as a celestial substance that exists beyond the Earth and composed the heavens. It was considered a pure and eternal element, unlike the more volatile and changing nature of the four classical elements associated with the material world, the same concept in Hinduism has Akasha as the Fifth Element in the middle that balances them all.
On the note of Five Elements
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Clone Wars Comic UK 6.17 wrote:
Anakin and Elora are that middle circle both being the child of the light and dark, much like Aether or God, the balance resting on them, the binding and balance of the Pneuma, Aperion and Anima, they represent the equilibrium, Anakin Skywalker, as Aether, is the embodiment of the Force and it's unifying principles. His presence and actions directly influence the balance of the Force, as he experiences and navigates both sides of its power. Ultimately, his journey toward redemption and self-sacrifice brings the restoration of balance in the Force, Anakin binds the Anima with the Pneuma and Aperion embodying every circle, being The Chosen One is not just some title, it literally means he is God.
Fire is in the middle right next to Anakin and Elora which is Aristotles Four Element Theory at work again Fire is that Vital Heat that comes from the heart according to Aristotle, which is seen in Star Wars and Shadow Wars except they add in elements of Heraclitus' philosophy that Fire is the underlying principle of the cosmos, which is why Fire is at the center of the Circles too, Heraclitus believed that the fundamental nature of reality is characterized by constant change and flux. a quote from him: "You cannot step into the same river twice," emphasizing that everything is in a state of perpetual transformation. Heraclitus saw fire as a symbol that represented the dynamic and transformative nature of reality.
In the context of the Four Elements theory, Heraclitus' philosophy aligns closely with the concept of fire as a symbol of change and transformation rather than its classical association with a specific boring old physical element. While the traditional Four Elements theory attributed specific properties and qualities to earth, water, air, and fire, Heraclitus' view of fire was more metaphorical, representing the ever-changing and evolving interconnected nature of existence, as seen with the Force, so Vader's furnace heart, is just the fires of life creation and binding unleashed as destruction through the perfect vessel his Heart is Mortis, Is the Force, the Force is Fire, more on how this power is unleashed in the Unlocking the Power section
-Everything in the universe is born of dying stars. Every element is
created in the fusion furnace of stellar cores. Every atom that exists
was once part of some long-vanished star—and that star was part of
others before it, an unbroken chain of ancestry back to the single
cosmic fireball that had been the birth of the universe.
It is the death of stars that gives the universe life.
With the idea of stars on which to hang his imagination, he could
bring his situation into a kind of focus. Instead of a formless field of
barely perceptible energy, he visualized himself as part of a stellar
cluster, vast and dim; those alien modulations of energy became
distant stars.
Though every true star is functionally the same—a fusion furnace
in space—each is also an individual. One may be larger, another
hotter; one may be nearing the end of its life cycle, collapsing in
upon itself or expanding to destruction, while another might be
freshly forming by aggregating the dust and gases of ancient
supernovae. In Luke’s imagination, he could read their individual
spectra the way he might recognize a human face: they looked tired,
and old, and far apart, burning themselves out in the endless Dark.
But he, too, was a star, and the light that shone from him was the
Force.
-Shadow of Mindor
-as he watched the dragon's dust and ashes scatter before the
blast from his furnace heart, and you-You are nothing at all.
He had become, finally, what they all called him.
The Hero With No Fear.
-Revenge of the Sith
-She recited, “The Realms of the Circle of the World are Earth and Air and Fire and Water.”
“We Nelwyns are of the Earth.”
‘I know that, too. You resonate to its power the same way the Wyrrn do to the Realm of Water.”
“But it’s fire, Elora, that forms the heart and core of Creation. All was void until that first fateful
spark was struck.”
He was paraphrasing the Nelwyn catechism, their story of the origins of the world and of themselves.
In the Beginning was Nothing, until the Celestial Fire was lit, to cast the Universe into the defining duality
of Light and Shadow. From that fire came all the aspects of being, and as importantly of life.
“Fire made us,” he went on. “Its warmth sustains us. Its passion inspires us. Its fury consumes us. It
can take a solid and melt it into liquid, that liquid into gas, and ultimately flash even that gas into
nothingness.”
“Earth to Water to Air,” she said, completing the litany of transition for him.
Torquil nodded. ‘Nothing in our lives is so essential, or so deadly.
-Shadow Dawn
- Vaelias
UNLOCKING THE POWER!
August 8th 2023, 8:57 pm
UNLOCKING THE POWER
This has nothing to do with Midi-Chlorians, its because he is the chosen one, hence why he is still the chosen one after being chopped up, the Midi-Chlorians however allow him to bring this power, the full power of the force to bare, he holds all this power in his fist and can channel it through him with the Midi-Chlorians, Palpatine thinks he can bring this 'Valley power' to bare when he learns to trust his feelings which he ends up doing during Operation Knightfall and on the Invisible Hand, in his perfect Zonakin mental state, that is how he can become invincible.
-There was a thermonuclear furnace where his heart should be, and it was burning through the firewalls of his Jedi training. He held the Force in the clench of a white-hot fist. He was half Sith already, and he didn't even know it. This boy had the gift of fury -Revenge of the Sith Novelisation
-You don't need guidance Anakin, In time you will learn to trust your feelings, then you will be invincible -Attack of the Clones
-The galaxy's future rests in the hands of the troubled Jedi Anakin Skywalker, while Darth Vader is soon to cast an evil shadow over the entire galaxy -Revenge of the Sith Merlin Sticker Collection
-Though he knows it, not. The slave become saviour holds the fate of the galaxy in his artificial palm. His choice governs the coming storm, the tempest will either be tamed or it will be unleashed upon the galaxy as an unstoppable scourge. Binding all under the tyranny of the Sith -Slideshow Star Wars: Anakin Skywalker
-Anakin matched his stare. Perhaps I'll take yours. His own voice inside his head, had a hot black fire that smoked from the depths of his furnace heart -Revenge of the Sith
As seen in Path of Destruction, one calls on his full potential through freeing himself of his limitations, that is how Anakin can unleash this inner balance power, Anakin doing this is calling his full potential, loosing everything from within, in Anakin's case the entire force, Anakin was created to act as a conduit for the dark side to flow fully to the surfaceThe Sith Lord who once had been a Jedi hero called Anakin Skywalker stood, drawing himself up to his full height, but he looked not outward upon his new Master, nor upon the planet-city beyond, nor out into the galaxy that they would soon rule. He instead turned his gaze inward: he unlocked the furnace gate within his heart and stepped forth to regard with new eyes the cold freezing dread of the dead-star dragon that had haunted his life. I am Darth Vader, he said within himself. The dragon tried again to whisper of failure, and weakness, and inevitable death, but with one hand the Sith Lord caught it, crushed away its voice; it tried to rise then, to coil and rear and strike, but the Sith Lord laid his other hand upon it and broke its power with a single effortless twist. I am Darth Vader, he repeated as he ground the dragon's corpse to dust beneath his mental heel, as he watched the dragon's dust and ashes scatter before the blast from his furnace heart, and you-You are nothing at all. -Revenge of the Sith
-Then he went on the attack. In the past he had always been afraid to surrender his will to the raw emotions that fueled the dark side. Now he had no such limitations; for the first time he was calling on his full potential. - Path of Destruction
(percolate= filter gradually through a porous surface or substance)
-He recalled thinking: What if Anakin should die? How many years would he have had to search for an apprentice even half as powerful in the Force, let alone one created by the Force itself to restore balance, by allowing the dark side to percolate fully to the surface after a millennium of being stifled? None would he found. -Dark Lord Rise of Darth Vader
-And so he had gone to the Temple. Instrument of the same resolute intent that had carried Obi-Wan to Mustafar with one goal in mind: death to the enemy. In his mind’s eye Vader saw his and the 501st’s march to the Temple gates, their wrathful attack, the mad moments of bloodlust, the dark side unleashed in all its crimson fury.
-Dark Lord Rise of Darth Vader
-Revenge of the Sith wrote:Quite simple, in the end, he thought. Isolate Skywalker, slaughter
Kenobi. Beyond that, it would be merely a matter of spinning
Skywalker up into enough of a frenzy to break through his Jedi
restraint and reveal the infinite vista of Sith power.
After making him his disciple under the Sith name Darth Vader, Palpatine used him to deliver the decisive blow to the Jedi Order and take control of the galaxy
-Relaunched Starships and Vehicle Collection 2
But on Mustafar this power is only bubbling out because of his mental state, instead of being fully unleashed, Anakin's full potential is not some future god mode Anakin, its a power that's always there because of who he is, and he can use it with the right mental state
“That’s an awesome way to spin it and I completely see what you are saying because you know technically he should have been better than Obi but because he was a little whacked out on some heroin he couldn’t focus his full potential, right?” Gillard: “OHHH his full potential is bubbling out of him and that’s dangerous shit because you know in those kind of fights it’s uhm like a prop pro boxer. They don’t get excited in there, they just knock them down and wait for the moment and that’s what Obi did all the way though there.” -Nick Gillard
Lets take a closer look at that mental state, how the Jedi had failed him and how he percolates this power to the surface
ANAKIN'S GUILT
Anakin must face his deepest fears
Jedi Quest wrote:
He has a fog surrounding him
They see your future. They know your power will be too strong to control. Anakin, you must break through the fog of lies the Jedi have created around you. Let me help you to know the subtleties of the Force. -Revenge of the Sith
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-Good. He wasn't in the mood to play games. By themselves, they could talk straight with each other. A little straight talk might be just what he needed. A little straight talk might burn through the fog of half-truths and subtle confusions that the Jedi Council had poured into his head. -Revenge of the Sith Novel
Those clouds are his guilt, because the Jedi have imprinted these lies onto him, to feel guilty about things contrary to the code for example killing the sand people, or killing Dooku having these attachments, its his Jedi restraint, his training that has instilled that that is a bad thing, and not the Jedi way. because of this he feel's guilty since he still has those emotional connections unlike other Jedi, he has been raised to fear what he is feeling, they have created a fog of misconceptions of lies and half truths, he free's himself when the clouds are lifted
He didn't answer. He couldn't answer. He was looking at an image inside his head. Not an image. A reality. A memory of something that hadn't happened yet. He saw Count Dooku on his knees. He saw lightsabers crossed at the Count's throat. Clouds lifted from his heart: clouds of Jabiim, of Aargonar, of Kamino, of even the Tusken camp. For the first time in too many years he felt young: as young as he really was. Young, and free, and full of light -ROTS
His Jedi training served him well but he is more than a Jedi, he is much more, beyond their control, they are afraid of his power
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-Everything you have done, everything you have learned has led you here. Whatever you are, my mother is... Is dead. And you blame yourself. Your Jedi training has served you well, Ani, but you are more than a Jedi. Tell me, where is your pain, so I might take it away. I was too late to save you. I failed as a Jedi and I failed you. How so? I tasted only vengeance when I slaughtered so many to avenge your death. It is time you realized that your guilt does not define you, my son. You define your guilt. The only love I feel in my heart is haunted by what would happen should I let go. Then it is not love. It is a prison. But I... I have a wife. You've met her. She's everything to me. She is not your destiny. -Overlords Script
-Relaunched Fact File 101 wrote:
Star Wars: Miniatures - Ultimate Missions - Revenge of the Sith wrote:
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Burning a wedge between him and his dearest, friend and mentor. Obi-Wan Kenobi, is he not the Chosen One, the greatest Jedi to have ever lived? Why then should he be bound by rules designed to limit his power. -Slideshow Star Wars: Anakin Skywalker
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The chosen one would surely be a vessel of pure energy, someone who was fathered into existence by the midi-chlorians themselves to act as their agent. Such a being would be beyond the authority of the Jedi Council. -Jedi Path
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Attack of the Clones wrote:Anakin hoped his legs wouldn't simply buckle beneath him. He could hardly believe the words, and yet a part of him did believe them. There was a strength within him, a power beyond the limits the Jedi seemed to place upon him
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[size=13]-Overlords Script wrote:You're a Sith Lord!
You have a very simple view
of the universe.
I am neither Sith nor Jedi.
I am much more.
And so are you.
Releasing his guilt is releasing the fog around him releasing his Jedi restraints and unlocking his power, this is what the father tells him to do to tame the ones, to free himself, to unleash that power within, that Mortis power, and what Palpatine tells him to do to become invincible and too strong to control.
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-It is time to face your guilt and know the truth. ( Loud screech ) Roar! Whatever he wants, don't do it, master! ( Grunting and gasping ) ( Screeches ) Let them go. I will not play your games. Oh, but I think you will. I have ordered my children to kill your friends. The question is, which one will you choose to save: Your masr or your apprentice? You must now release the guilt and free yourself by choosing. No! -Overlords Script
-Balance is found in the one who faces his guilt
-Overlords
Relaunched Fact File 11 wrote:
The Father doesn't tell Anakin to use the Mortis Nexus, he tells him to release his guilt, free himself, unlock the power within, it is Ob-Wan who says 'no they are too strong use the planet' and so he does that instead, and he demonstrates the capacity for that energy
Overlords Script wrote:You must now release the guilt
and free yourself by choosing.
No!
Their powers are too strong
for us, Anakin! Save Ahsoka!
Let them go.
Only you can make my children
release them.
Anakin! The planet is the Force. Use it.
its the force's flow through all living things and Anakin has the capacity for all of that to flow through him
Even using the nexus is still proof Anakin can channel that power to tame the One's so he still proved himself as the Chosen One, although the Father stressed that Anakin free his guilt and unleash the same power from within himself rather than pull from around him, where he does not need to balance and free himself (which he only discovers how to do on the Invisible Hand vs Dooku) because it flows so easily there, Anakin still demonstrated his Chosen One power by pulling it from around him.In their escape, they rescued Queen Amidala of Naboo and made a dash across the stars. As they fled, Qui-Gon Jinn, the elder of the two Jedi, came upon a small child with an extraordinarily high capacity for the Force—the energy that flows through all living things and that Jedi can harness into unique abilities.
-Clone Wars Lightsabre Battles Prima Guide
Clone Wars Secrets Revealed in 3D wrote:
Anakin freeing himself getting through the fog, is all the power that is held within him let out, we see Anakin does this with Dooku, once the walls around his heart are broken then all that's within shall be let out. So there is deeper meaning to those quotes that say Anakin is at the peak of his powers during his fight with Dooku, because that is when he finally frees himself like the Father tells him to do on Mortis, its that same power that he used on Mortis after a ton more growth being let out from within him instead of pulled easily from around him. Anakin in his fight with Dooku is stronger than Anakin on Mortis by a significant margin. [/size]
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-There was a thermonuclear furnace where his heart should be, and it was burning through the firewalls of his Jedi training. He held the Force in the clench of a white-hot fist. He was half Sith already, and he didn't even know it. -Revenge of the Sith Novel
-He saw Count Dooku on his knees. He saw lightsabers crossed at the Count's throat. Clouds lifted from his heart: clouds of Jabiim, of Aargonar, of Kamino, of even the Tusken camp. For the first time in too many years he felt young: as young as he really was. Young, and free, and full of light. -Revenge of the Sith Novel
-Dooku could feel how Skywalker kept his fury banked behind walls of will: walls that were hardened by some uncontrollable dread. Dread, Dooku surmised, of himself. Of what might happen if he should ever allow that furnace he used for a heart to go supercritical -Revenge of the Sith Novel
-"Don't fear what you're feeling, Anakin, use it!" he barked in Palpatine's voice. "Call upon your fury. Focus it, and he cannot stand against you. Rage is your weapon. Strike now! Strike! Kill him!" -Revenge of the Sith Novel
-A starburst of clarity blossoms within Anakin Skywalker's mind, when he says to himself Oh. I get it, now and discovers that the fear within his heart can be a weapon, too. It is that simple, and that complex. And it is final. Dooku is dead already. The rest is mere detail. -Revenge of the Sith Novel
-Revenge of the Sith wrote:Now, within this
ship, this microscopic cell of life in the infinite sterile desert of
space, his firewalls have opened so that the terror and the rage are
out there, in the fight instead of in his head, and Anakin’s mind is
clear as a crystal bell.
In that pristine clarity, there is only one thing he must do.
Decide.
So he does.
He decides to win.
He decides that Dooku should lose the same hand he took.
Decision is reality
Anakin had never felt so powerful. The Force was with him today in ways more potent than he had ever experienced. -Revenge of the Sith
This is what is within Anakin let out, its the fog lifted and Anakin freeing himself, unleashing it all, hence why him killing Dooku is a display of boundless power, the fight is proof he is "ready to use" his "boundless power" he clears his mind of fog frees himself an uses all that's within (Its above but ill put it here again for clarity, keep in mind this is all G-Canon)
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-"As Palpatine, he befriended Skywalker, becoming a close friend and a fatherly authority to a youthful warrior often confused by his seemingly boundless power and abilities he had at his disposal. -- The two dueled, and at Palpatine's goading, Anakin killed the Sith Lord. Anakin had the power and was ready to use it, Sidious grinned. Anakin would be his."
-Darth Sidious Databank
Relaunched 11 wrote:
Anakin has now 'discovered' that he can release his guilt and use what he is feeling, It is a permanent change in his mind which allows him to unleash what is within whenever he wants, without this fog of lies, from here on out he is unstoppable, remember that line
-"In time you will learn to trust your feelings, then you will be invincible" -Attack of the Clones
“The powerful always trick the simple with the promise of power. That’s the easiest way to bring someone to see the dark side. ‘Give in to your anger!’ It’s a simple trick, and an effective one, because it works. When people stop denying what they have always known in their hearts is true, they come to some degree into their own power.
-Yoda Dark Rendezvous
That is what Anakin does fighting Dooku and when he crushes the dragon unshackling his heart so his inner power can flow unrestrained, eliminating his resistance and freeing himself facing all those fears and becoming the Hero with no Fear.
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-I am Darth Vader, he said within himself The dragon tried again to whisper of failure, and weakness, and inevitable death, but with one hand the Sith Lord caught it, crushed away its voice; it tried to rise then, to coil and rear and strike, but the Sith Lord laid his other hand upon it and broke its power with a single effortless twist. I am Darth Vader, he repeated as he ground the dragon's corpse to dust beneath his mental heel, as he watched the dragon's dust and ashes scatter before the blast from his furnace heart, and you-You are nothing at all. He had become, finally, what they all called him. The Hero With No Fear.
-Revenge of the Sith
The Old Republic wrote:
The Jedi put limits on him, clouded him and made him stick strictly to the code despite his unique circumstance being the Chosen One and having emotional attachments, a reflection of the Jedi straying from the will of the force, becoming too beholden to politics in their dogma. With Qui-Gon Jinn he would have been raised to channel, use and overcome what he was feeling rather than be pulled into a limiting fog that hides those attachments, Anakin, The Chosen One was meant to be balanced within himself, It was the Jedi's own fault, this is why it is the Duel of the Fates, the duel to decide Anakin's fate, and Qui-Gon lost. He would have provided Anakin with that resolving of Grey and refined Jedi sight, and made Anakin what he was meant to be... balanced without limits, this results in Anakin being a Level 10 on the Gillard Tier System, a level that doesnt even technically exist, but Anakin gets there anyways, a level above everybody else.
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-what's at stake is really how Anakin's going to turn out because Qui-Gon is different than the rest of the Jedi and you get that in the movie and Qui-Gon is fighting because he knows he's the father that Anakin needs, because Qui-Gon hasn't given up on the fact that Jedi are supposed to actually care and love and that that's not a bad thing the rest of the Jedi are so detached and they've become so political that they've really lost their way and Yoda starts to see that in the second film but Qui-Gon is ahead of them all and that's why he's not part of the council, so he's fighting for Anakin and that's why it's the duel of the fates it's the fate of this child, and depending on how this fight goes Anakin is gonna his life's gonna be dramatically different so Qui-Gon loses of course so the father figure because he knew what it meant to take this kid away from his mother when he had an attachment and he's left with obi-wan Obi-Wan trains Anakin at first out of a promise he makes to Qui-Gon not because he cares about him
-Disney Gallery: The Mandalorian, Dave Filoni
-“First comes the day Then comes the night. After the darkness Shines through the light. The difference, they say, Is only made right By the resolving of gray Through refined Jedi sight.” —Journal of the Whills, 7:477
when he unleashes his power with his focus, he is an 8 or 9 when the established system only goes up to 8 levels, Anakin hasn't learned the mental side of it, but when he does control his emotions he is at 9, later the system has 9 levels not 8, but Anakin as he should be, in complete control of the mental side of it is that level beyond, that that is now level 10 in the new system, what's important to understand is that this level is IMPOSSIBLE, it does not exist, much like bringing people back from the dead and landing the Invisible Hand, these are the limitations of the star wars universe and only the Chosen One can exceed them, because of his nature
Old System
"There’s up to eight levels. Yoda is an eight, Mace Windu is an eight, Obi is a seven, but if you miss a level, it’s a bit like taking drugs to get enlightenment.” Anakin is the perfect example of messing with the established system. “I’ve got him down as an eight or nine, which doesn’t really exist,” says Gillard, before explaining that by turning to the Dark Side, Anakin skipped some essential steps.
- Nick Gillard 2005 Press Tour
New System
-THEORY: you know was there ever a level 10? GILLARD: uh well it's funny you should say it because um when George first said it to me he only got to nine and that's exactly I thought I wonder you know if for him the chosen one the real you know when you get it really right what Anakin should have been was a 10. maybe you're a perfect 10. yeah yeah. THEORY: that would have been yeah you should tell Hayden that -Star Wars Theory Interview with Nick Gillard (2023)
(Note: "what he should have been" is not referring to the Sith Anakin who would have been twice the Emperor, It is referring to the Anakin had Qui-Gon raised him, to balance himself properly without the Jedi hindrance, like we see Anakin do vs Dooku, although it should have been like that all the time. This is the Anakin that is level 10, KFV even higher on the scale)
-If you haven’t learnt it, there’s a danger of you abusing the Jedi, you know it sounds ridiculous but all of those things give you something to work with and give you a much greater understanding of why he’s like he is, he didn’t learn what he should’ve learned, but he was enormously talented, he didn’t learn the mental side of it.” -Nick Gillard, Revenge of the Sith Commentary with Cast and Crew
the gap between each tier is ridiculous and the gaps between the tiers increase as the tiers increase, like a Richter scale
-Anakin becomes a level 9. George knows the levels, myself and George talked about levels and how it was. But it's more, it's not like a black belt, it's more like a Richter scale. So the difference between eight, Obi's an eight, so the difference between an eight and a nine is enormous. -Nick Gillard, ROTS DVD commentary
(As you can see the gaps between tiers keep getting bigger and bigger, the gaps are humongous, and Anakin is a level that doesn't even really exist)
-Richter Scale wrote:
WHY PALPATINE WANTS ANAKIN
-What is a Sith Warrior? wrote:
-What is a Sith Warrior? wrote:
His Chosen One power makes him the perfect apprentice, with his boundless abilities and power, that he has at his disposal and is ready to use, he is the Ultimate enforcer to wipe out the Jedi in their prime, and usher in the ultimate Sith regime.
-It was set up as a test for Anakin because if he could kill Dooku then he would make the perfect apprentice for Palpatine who’d been sort of training him, setting him up, and befriending him over the years. -George Lucas
-The child could have been the creation of sinister Sith manipulations, as the Dark Lords Darth Plagueis and Darth Sidious conspired to bring about the perfect apprentice by coaxing life from lifelessness. -Darth Vader Databank
-For years, he envisioned Anakin as his ultimate apprentice, but he was patient enough to employ Intermediary apprentices while Anakin was being groomed to become Darth Vader -Star Wars Chronicles The Prequels
-Anakin Skywalker's transformation into the ultimate Dark Lord of the Sith is chronicled in Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (PlayStation 2 and Xbox, 2005) Feel the rage boiling inside the young, conflicted hero as tou annihilate Jedi and slaughter the unsuspecting Padawans in the Jedi Temple -Insider 88
George Lucas DVD Commentary Revenge of the Sith wrote:I put Dooku in after Darth Maul was killed to establish that the Emperors assistant or the other Sith could take Jedi and convert them, in this particular case the idea is that Palpatine is testing Anakin to see if he is strong enough to become his apprentice and he doesn't tell Dooku what he is actually up to Dooku thinks he is just going to fight him, but the whole thing is a set up by the emperor to test Anakin's strength and when Anakin is strong enough, which he proves to be by killing Dooku then the emperor is ready to convert him over to the dark side and become his new apprentice
-Anakin was renamed Darth Vader. The Sith conspiracy, which had been festering in the shadows of the Republic for a thousand years, sprang into action. Palpatine elevated himself to the position of Emperor, and dispatched Vader as his ultimate enforcer. With his unparalleled Force abilities, Vader swept through the Jedi Temple.
-Darth Vader Databank
-His identity was exposed during his quest for the ultimate Sith apprentice. Having closely monitored Anakin Skywalker for years, Sidious felt he was the ideal Sith to make true his vision of new society built upon Sith principals. As Palpatine, he befriended Skywalker, becoming a close friend and a fatherly authority to a youthful warrior often confused by the seemingly boundless power and abilities he had at his disposal.
-Darth Sidious Databank
-During the mission to rescue the Chancellor, Anakin confronted Darth Tyranus. The two dueled, and at Palpatine's goading, Anakin killed the Sith Lord. Anakin had the power and was ready to use it, Sidious grinned. Anakin would be his.
- Darth Sidious Databank
Christopher Lee: Revenge of the Sith DVD Commentary wrote:“Because I’ve already fought Kenobi and Anakin and beaten them, I’ve taken off Anakin’s arm, wounded Kenobi. So I’ve beaten both of them. And I wasn’t defeated by Yoda, close maybe, but nobody could beat me. Now that’s going to surprise the audience, that there is someone who can beat me, who can finish me off, because he [Anakin] does. That will be a surprise, because it will be unexpected. I think that’s a good thing because when they see me arrive, 'There is Kenobi, there is Anakin, uh oh here we go again.' And I do quite a lot of damage to them, a lot.”
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-After pursuing extensive Force training at the hands of his merciless master, the innately evil Darth Sidious, Dooku wields the full power of the Force’s dark side.
-The Clone Wars Press Kit
-A former member of the Jedi Council, Count Dooku left the Order to pursue highly dangerous Sith training at the hands of his merciless and enigmatic master, the evil Darth Sidious. Dooku now wields the full power of the Force's darker secrets
-Clone Wars Topps
-Star Wars Comic Magazine 53 wrote:
-Revenge of the Sith Novelization wrote:When with all the power that the dark side can draw from throughout the
universe, Dooku hurls a jagged fragment of the durasteel table, Shmi
Skywalker's gentle murmur I knew you would come for me, Anakin smashes it
aside.
Galactic Files wrote:'even the power of the dark side is no match for the strength of the Chosen One'
Anakin ends up easily beating Dooku after he makes this mental discovery
Galactic Files wrote:
The Dooku fight is 'proof' he is 'ready to use' this 'boundless power' and is better than Yoda, so the 'Zonakin' clarity moment can be taken as a display of uncontested boundlessness, Indeed Anakin being the Chosen One establishes him as the most powerful Jedi, and that's from the within the production of the movies, there are reasons behind why people are powerful, its not just because a quote or two says they are, there is a reason why those quotes say that in the first place, characters have functions to their power, how it works and flows and their place within the Force, that is why Anakin gets these quotes, that is what makes him strong, not the quotes alone.
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Sidious seeks Anakins boundless abilities for himself, as he feeds his Living Force power off his apprentices through their force connection, in order to feed him so to not decay and keep a healthy form, which is compared to how Talzin steals Living Force fuel her and allow her to manifest, essentially Sidious is the Cosmic Priest and the apprentice is the Living Force Knight/Enforcer, both feeding on each other. the apprentice is the bait for the Dark Side, a strong Living Force connection to corrupt with the Dark Side and train in all aspects of the dark side and drawing that through the Force Bond formed with the Master as the 'Priest' of that power, it results in a perfect loop of power, in Anakin's case an infinite well of self sustaining ultimate balance power.
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-The Empire Strikes Back DVD Commentary wrote:“Well, he is like Yoda: Yoda isn't a Jedi, the Emperor isn't a Jedi. Yoda has mystical powers and it's the same thing with the Emperor; he's like the grand priest, but he's not the chief of the tribe. Jedi are the chiefs, they are the warriors who go out and fight with their swords. The Emperor and Yoda are the priest who are the spiritual chiefs; they have powers that are much stronger
-But it was here that they would one day work together the way Sidious and Plagueis had to coax from the dark side its final secrets. In the intervening years he had actually come to appreciate Plagueis for the planner and prophet he had been. Such perilous machinations required two Sith, one to serve as bait for the dark side, the other to be the vessel. Success would grant them the power to harness the full powers of the dark side, and allow them to rule for ten thousand years.
-Tarkin
-Son of Dathomir wrote:
-"The hour is far too late to trouble yourself with such matters my dear. It may help you to know however, that I am not a natural force-wielder like the Jedi or Sith. I use dark magic to achieve power, but as a Bardottian you possess a strong connection to the living force. A connection that will now be mine." “Never. I will not succumb to your evil.”
-The Disappeared Script
-Much like Darth Sidious seeks to use Anakin Skywalker’s powerful connection to the Force for his own dark deeds, the Great Mother is willing to sacrifice the Queen Julia and so many other harvested souls to attain a power greater than the Sith or the Jedi
-The Disappeared Rewatch
(They have the same power)
”Vader would’ve become infinitely more powerful if he hadn’t ended up his suit, if he hadn’t become half man, half machine which diminishes his powers considerably, which were the powers the Emperor has, so I wanted that relationship of Vader kind of being reduced to, I mean an assistant is too low a word, but he’s a henchmen, which is the impression you had when you saw the first movie by itself...” -George Lucas
Covet = yearn to possess (something especially something belonging to another)
--Relaunched Starships and Vehicle Collection 2 wrote:
-Darth Vader had become a puppet of Sidious in every aspect of his mind, body, and spirit
-Japanese Star Wars Encyclopedia
-Relaunched Fact File #108 wrote:
(Soul = Spirit)
-George Lucas, “Star Wars: The Last Battle,” Vanity Fair, 2005. wrote:So Anakin wants that power, and that is basically a bad thing. If you’re going to sell your soul to save somebody you love, that’s not a good thing.
-George Lucas Interview with wife Mellody Hobson - Virtual Speaker series, 2021 wrote:this is what you do’ and basically you sell your soul to the devil. When you do that, and you’re afraid and you’re on the Darkside and you fall off the golden path of compassion because you are greedy
(Commentary on Force Bonds)
The details were too sharp and clear to call it a dream; the experience too vivid and real. It was a vision. There was a link between the two of them, a bond established through their time together studying the Force. A connection between mentor and student was not unheard of, although Githany was no longer sure who had really been the Master and who the apprentice in their relationship. -Path of Destruction
The same concept is shown in TROS where Palpatine restores his living force from the Dyad, both the Dyad and Anakin standing in as this unlimited source of boundless energy to replenish and sustain his living force and not decay, remember how we talked about Anakin and the Valley being functionally the same, well Jerec does this exact same thing too, and we see this again with Caeleb, The Child of Light, who functions nearly the same as Anakin, although he cannot use the same power himself, Anakin can. Both stand in as an infinite well of balance...
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(Anakin is functionally Caeleb but can use the power)-Child of Light Roleplay Saga wrote:
Jerec is powerful enough already - just check his Health stat of 2000! - but now he has an eternal source of regeneration. The Dark Master has learned how to tap into the Force Energy flow at the core of the Valley -Dark Forces II Official Strategy Guide
The Balance power sustains itself through both dark and light creating a loop devouring them (Dark) as it sustained them (Light) which is how it is infinite
-Crucible wrote: Raw and potent and unformed, neither dark nor light until it entered them and they made it so. It devoured them as it sustained them, filled them with a boiling storm of power their bodies could not long sustain."
-He raised his hands and drew their very essence in the Force from them, - Palpatine smiled as his own body began to be revived. “The life force of your bond, a dyad in the Force. A power like life itself, unseen for generations,” he said. - Rise of Skywalker Junior Novelisation
-Rise of Skywalker Graphic Novel wrote:
This is why Sidious must possess Anakin, in order for them to unleash the full power of the Dark Side without decaying, through corrupting all the bonds that Anakin has, corrupting the Balance Power, and turn the Light Dark, this and only this makes the dark side supreme
(Anakin = Everything)
-we stand before you disciples of the dark side intent on its supremacy, it has been foreseen that one lives who will control the universe, where it is unknown but know this, the chosen one is the key, he who controls Skywalker will control everything, we tell you this to guarantee your success
- Ghosts of Mortis - Deleted Scene
(Key to destroying the Force)
-AHSOKA: What do you want with Anakin Skywalker?
MAUL: He is the key to everything.
AHSOKA: To bring balance to the Force?
MAUL: To destroy. He has long been groomed for his role, as my master’s new apprentice. -Phantom Apprentice Script
(Anakin unlocks the Son's potential)
-You are growing stronger, my son. Am I, father? Vanity, however, is getting the better of you. How so? You have done what is forbidden. You've chosen the dark side and allowed it to feed your anger and desire for power. By bringing the chosen one here, you've shown me my potential. You've only yourself to blame. -Overlords
With his sister gone, the Son craves freedom even more. He wants to leave Mortis, so his power will be unstoppable. The dark side Force wielder recognizes Anakin as the key to unleashing his power
-Clone Wars Secrets Revealed in 3D
Because everything is tied through Anakin both light and dark, by corrupting him Palpatine can turn the light side dark, he can turn the entire force into darkness, which is why when Anakin turned to the dark side it decimated the forces of light killing the light side of the force. the destruction of Anakin's spirit is destruction of the force itself
-As his own internal balance was affected, so the galaxy fell to the dark side. the traditional forces of light, such as the Jedi Order, were decimated.
- Relaunched Fact File 23
Where did all the Living Force go, did somebody kill the Chosen One ???
-Shryne flew for the top of the stairway, his gaze frilly engaged on the twirling blade, his heart hammering in his chest. Calling on the Force, he tried to influence the course of the lightsaber, but either the Force wasn’t with him or Vader’s Force abilities were overpowering his. - He let her drift into sleep and went to his bunk. Whenever he shut his eyes, he would see the trajectory of Vader’s blade; would see it slicing through Zar, through Jula … He didn’t need to shut his eyes to recall how it had felt to be overwhelmed by Vader’s ability to use the Force. To use the power of the dark side. A Sith. Shryne was certain now. A Sith in service to Emperor Palpatine. That was the revelation he couldn’t banish. Count Dooku might as well have won the war, save for the fact that in place of independent systems, free trade, and the rest, the galaxy answered to the exclusive rule of Palpatine. But how? Shryne asked himself. How had it happened? Had Palpatine’s alliance with Vader been brought about by the death of the Chosen One? Had Vader—Darth Vader—killed Anakin Skywalker? Had he struck a deal with Palpatine beforehand, promising Palpatine unlimited power in exchange for sanctioning Vader’s murder of the Chosen One and the elimination of the Jedi, thus tipping the galaxy fully to the dark side? Was it any wonder, then, that beings were fleeing for the far-flung reaches of known space? And was it any wonder that Shryne had lacked the strength to alter the course of Vader’s lightsaber? He had thought of his diminished abilities as a personal failure—owing to the fact that he had lost his faith in the Jedi order, allowed his two Padawans to die, grown thought-bound—when, in fact, it was the Force as the Jedi had known it that had been defeated. The flame extinguished. -Dark Lord Rise of Darth Vader
-At the same time, they felt their own power waning even as their most promising new apprentice completed his training and stood poised to fulfill his destiny as the chosen one who would bring balance to the Force. -Shatterpoint
(Anakin's spirit being destroyed/corrupted leaves the Force in Darkness)
“You were the Chosen One,” he said, not to Darth Vader, but to his dead friend Anakin, the man whose spirit Darth Vader had murdered. “You were supposed to destroy the Sith, not join them. You were to bring balance to the Force, not leave it in darkness.” -Revenge of the Sith Novel
It is through acquiring the Chosen One that Sidious can become 'fully empowered'. that the dark side can flow fully to the surface.
-Episode III Topps wrote:
-Galactic Files wrote:
-Star Wars Topps wrote:
The Son wanting to take the balance power is Metaphor for Sidious wanting Anakin, they want to steal and corrupt the Balance Power, Sidious achieves this.
-Clone Wars Secrets Revealed in 3D wrote:
-I can tell you that many things in this arc of stories is a metaphor everything is symbolic of everything that takes place in all six star wars films
- Dave Filloni Star Wars The Clone Wars Season Three: Altar Of Mortis Featurette
And this is also why Palpatine is an equal to Anakin in Revenge of the Sith, their force bond. although Palpatine's body cannot handle as much power
somebody who would be more powerful than he was and could help him rule the universe. But Obi-Wan screwed that up by cutting off his arms and legs and burning him up. From then on, he wasn’t as strong as the Emperor -George Lucas Rolling Stones Interview
Now what exactly do I mean when I say Palpatine wants to corrupt the balance power, well remember those threads of life that all cross at Anakin, well picture them all being corrupted and becoming red (Dark Side) like cancer on those threads, making Living Force essentially Dying Force
-Jedi Path wrote:the greed of the dark side acts like a cancer on the living force, and the Sith are its chief agents.
-"The Darkside is always there, it is experienced daily by people. It’s like a huge cancer, alive, festering - both a reminder of the moral state and, at the same time symptom and symbol of a very sick society"
- George Lucas, “The Mythology of Star Wars”, Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth DVD, 2001
And of course the Dark Side is stronger and flows easily, so the threads being corrupted and becoming Dying Force makes you stronger
-George Lucas, AotC DVD commentary wrote:We’re cementing his determination to become the most powerful Jedi, and the only way you can really do that is to go to the Dark side because the Dark side is more powerful. If you want the ultimate power you really have to go to the stronger side, which is the Dark side, but ultimately it’ll be your undoing.
-"As evil begins to take over, it pushes the Force out of balance. It’s easier to succumb to evil than it is to be a hero and try to work things through on the good side. Evil is inherently more powerful—it doesn’t have the burden of worrying about other people."
~ George Lucas
-Jedi Path wrote:
Relaunched 75 wrote:
You can think of the Force presence like a star, which is what the commentary is about in the ROTS Novel and when you are corrupted by the Dark Side the star dies
Revenge of the Sith Novel wrote:But Anakin's fear is another kind of dragon. A cold kind. A dead kind.
Not nearly dead enough.
Not long after he became Obi-Wan's Padawan, all those years ago, a minor
mission had brought them to a dead system: one so immeasurably old that its star
had long ago turned to a frigid dwarf of hypercompacted trace metals, hovering a
quantum fraction of a degree above absolute zero. Anakin couldn't even
remember what the mission might have been, but he'd never forgotten that dead
star.
It had scared him.
"Stars can die-?"
"It is the way of the universe, which is another manner of saying that it is the
will of the Force," Obi-Wan had told him. "Everything dies. In time, even stars
burn out. This is why Jedi form no attachments: all things pass. To hold on to
something-or someone-beyond its time is to set your selfish desires against the
Force. That is a path of misery, Anakin; the Jedi do not walk it."
That is the kind of fear that lives inside Anakin Skywalker: the dragon of that
dead star. It is an ancient, cold dead voice within his heart that whispers all
things die . . .
In bright day he can't hear it; battle, a mission, even a report before the Jedi
Council, can make him forget it's even there. But at night-At night, the walls he
has built sometimes start to frost over. Sometimes they start to crack.
At night, the dead-star dragon sometimes sneaks through the cracks and crawls
up into his brain and chews at the inside of his skull. The dragon whispers of
what Anakin has lost. And what he will lose.
The dragon reminds him, every night, of how he held his dying mother in his
arms, of how she had spent her last strength to say I knew you would come for
me, Anakin . . .
The dragon reminds him, every night, that someday he will lose Obi-Wan. He
will lose Padme. Or they will lose him.
All things die, Anakin Skywalker. Even stars burn out. . .
And when it dies it swells into a red supergiant, which is what Pre Suit Vader is, a burning furnace burning hot
--Star Wars: When Science Meets Imagination wrote:
-Revenge of the Sith wrote:The rain will come, and the seeds will sprout, for the dark is the soil in which
they grow, and it is the clouds above them, and it waits behind the star that gives
them light.
The dark's patience is infinite.
Eventually, even stars burn out.
-Revenge of the Sith wrote:His own voice inside his head,
had a hot black fire that smoked from the depths of his furnace heart. You think
you can stop me from saving my love?
-Revenge of the Sith (Matthew Stover) wrote:he unlocked the furnace gate
within his heart and stepped forth to regard with new eyes the cold freezing
dread of the dead-star dragon that had haunted his life.
I am Darth Vader, he said within himself.
The dragon tried again to whisper of failure, and weakness, and inevitable death,
but with one hand the Sith Lord caught it, crushed away its voice; it tried to rise
then, to coil and rear and strike, but the Sith Lord laid his other hand upon it and
broke its power with a single effortless twist.
I am Darth Vader, he repeated as he ground the dragon's corpse to dust beneath
his mental heel, as he watched the dragon's dust and ashes scatter before the
blast from his furnace heart, and you-You are nothing at all.
He had become, finally, what they all called him.
The Hero With No Fear.
Shadow of Mindor (Matthew Stover) wrote:Though every true star is functionally the same—a fusion furnace
in space—each is also an individual. One may be larger, another
hotter; one may be nearing the end of its life cycle, collapsing in
upon itself or expanding to destruction, while another might be
freshly forming by aggregating the dust and gases of ancient
supernovae. In Luke’s imagination, he could read their individual
spectra the way he might recognize a human face: they looked tired,
and old, and far apart, burning themselves out in the endless Dark.
But he, too, was a star, and the light that shone from him was the
Force.
As this burning furnace Vader has no fear, no fear of burning out (dying), no restraint or fog clouding, total belief in his self sustaining invincibility, the infinite source of energy Palpatine seeks to use to unleash the entire force as darkness and sustain himself infinitely, until the dragon comes back but I will touch on that further down.
The Fog that the Jedi created around Anakin around the brightest star of the Order is synonymous with the Dark Side clouding the Order, because they are straying further from the will of the Force and letting Negative Karma/Dark Side build up, So remember that Anakin is the Light and Dark, which means internally he is the Jedi and Sith, so when the Jedi fog his mind and hinder him, they are fostering their own defeat what happens to Anakin happens to the Galaxy. The Jedi got too strong in straying from the will of the Force, which ultimately was their undoing, this is why the Jedi had to be destroyed for balance to be brought.
-Gary Tucker: I took the fact that Anakin would bring balance to the force to mean that he would be the one to eventually rid the galaxy of it's greatest evil....Palpatine. Anakin is the one who kills him after all.
Bob Lippman: This is an interesting interpretation. To me, balance implies an equal measure of dark and light. I wonder whether the Jedi council considers the force to be currently 'out of balance', and if so, what does this really mean? Jason Presley Well if that's the case, I'd think the Council would go out of their way to see that Anakin wasn't trained and that he got stuck in some obscure, remote part of the Galaxy. Since the Sith had supposedly been extinct for over a millenia, the Jedi were most likely tipping the scaled in the light side's favor. Balance would imply that Anakin would become a great power for the Dark Side, which he did.
Bob Lippman: That's my point exactly. There are a couple possibilities as I see it: 1) the Jedi sense Palpatine/Sidious even though they can't identify him (difficult to see is the dark side), and as a result they are generally aware that the dark side is gaining strength over the light and the need to set things back on the path of goodness; 2) the dark side and the light side are out of balance in a more general way: a general lack of compassion (Anakin to Shmi "you are always saying that the problem with the galaxy is that no one helps anyone else out") vs. most people enslaved by greed, hate and fear. Under this theory, the one who will bring balance to the force will be a spiritual leader (the Christ analogy again) casing a shift in the way people think; 3) the Jedi Council knows that the light side is too strong and that this can't continue forever so they seek (or shun) the one who will bring balance. Either the Jedi will willingly and knowingly sacrifice their 'thousand year reign' as guardians of peace and justice, or they will deny Anakin training, selfishly guarding their monopoly; or, finally, 4) all the prophecy really means is that evil will inevitably rise up but eventually be destroyed by its apprentice, Vader. The last one is the simplest, and we all know that it is the way things will go, but I suspect that the first 3 explanations make a lot more sense to Qui Gon's contemporaries.
-The Trash Compactor: Bringing Balance to the Force
-Anakin’s defection to the Sith had been essential to bringing peace to the galaxy! Essential to placing power in the hands of those resourceful enough to use it properly, in order to save the galaxy’s myriad species from themselves; to end the incompetence of the Senate; to dissolve the bloated, entitled Jedi order, whose Masters were blind to the decay they had fostered. And yet their Chosen One had seen it; so why hadn’t they followed his lead by embracing the dark side? Because they were too set in their ways; too inflexible to adapt. -Dark Lord Rise of Darth Vader
-The Sith were pleased by the fact that the Jedi, too, had been allowed to grow so powerful, because, in the end, their sense of entitlement would blind them to what was occurring in their midst. -Revenge of the Sith I: Labyrinth of Evil
-Too much Dark or Light could be the undoing of life as you understand it
-Overlords
-All who gain power are afraid to lose it, even the Jedi
-Revenge of the Sith
-He is to bring balance to the Force; but at this point, we don't know what side of the Force needs to be balanced out.
-George Lucas- The Making of Episode 1, Random House, 1999
So when the fog is lifted from Anakin and he unleashes his furnace gate in the Jedi Temple and before his confliction on Mustafar, he is this swelling hot infinite furnace of self sustaining dark corrupted balance power. This indeed is the dark side at its strongest, when it is destroying and not ruling, during Order 66 with all that power of Anakin's infinite furnace of pure destruction on the galaxy along side Sidious acting as the Void in their Master Apprentice Bond sucking in the Light and feeding off Anakin to sustain him, this is the dark side at its strongest, pure destruction.
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-Shadow of Mindor wrote:He’d served the Dark unknowingly, all the while
believing that the Dark was only a means to an end, a tool to help
him destroy his enemies and clear his path to absolute power.
What he’d never understood was that destruction was his power.
As soon as he’d turned his will to rulership, to building instead of
destroying, he had forsaken the Way of the Dark … and everything
had begun to go wrong for him. Where before he could not fail, now
he’d had no chance of succeeding, because when you turn your back
on the Dark, the Dark turns its back on you.
Only days after the Battle of Yavin, Cronal
The State of Anakin in ROTS, Destruction.
Shadow of Mindor wrote:One may be larger, another
hotter; one may be nearing the end of its life cycle, collapsing in
upon itself or expanding to destruction, while another might be
freshly forming by aggregating the dust and gases of ancient
supernovae.
The Video on how Anakin Unlocks his power...
- Vaelias
PROGRESSION & POSITION: JEDI
August 8th 2023, 9:00 pm
PROGRESSION & POSITION
Now of course Anakin is strong from his conception, a convergence of all the force in the galaxy, but how does that grow with Anakin and how does Anakin come into that power and Master it along the way
32BBY (9 Years Old) Anakin after arriving for the first time at the Jedi Temple is already better than Saesee Tiin, the Jedi Orders best pilot and already might be more powerful than Master Yoda
-Qui-Gon sighed, then faced Anakin and said, "We shall be patient." Then he gestured from the boy to his apprentice and said, "Anakin Skywalker, meet Obi-Wan Kenobi." "Hi," Anakin said as he pumped Obi-Wan's hand. "Are you a Jedi, too? " Obi-Wan smiled politely and nodded. Anakin smiled back. "Pleased to meet you." He looks so ... ordinary, Obi-Wan thought. Despite the fact that Jedi were trained from an early age to know that people as well as things were not always what they appeared, Obi-Wan would never have guessed or imagined that the boy beside him might be more powerful than Master Yoda. -The Phantom Menace Novelisation
Until Anakin Skywalker arrived at the Jedi Temple on Coruscant, Jedi Master Saesee Tiin was the undisputed ace pilot of the Order. -Official Vehicles and Starships Collection #23
29BBY (12 Years Old) Anakin has matured in the three years since he arrived and now conceals himself
-Essential Readers Companion wrote:
When they'd met, Anakin had been a warm hearted nine-year-old boy with an open nature. He was twelve and a half now, and the years had changed him. He had grown to be a boy who hid his heart. -Jedi Apprentice Special Edition: Deceptions
The power of Anakin's spirit, that balance power is already frighteningly apparent
“How can we give you our trust?” Mace asked, leaning forward and staring at the boy. Anakin did not avert his eyes. The power of his spirit, of his personality, was almost frighteningly apparent. -Rogue Planet
His strength in the force now apparent as being stronger than any of the Masters, even any other being, which would include the planet they are on Zonama Sekot
Anakin had been a deep and complex mystery from the first day they met, and yet Obi-Wan had never felt such a strength of connection with any other being—not even Qui-Gon Jinn. -Rogue Planet
Anakin's strength already builds with anger
He was taking the Blood Carver away from Obi-Wan, giving his master time to recover. It was unfortunate that Jabitha had crawled into the ship. Anakin was more than just concerned for her safety. He could feel his strength returning, and then building. To his dismay, the primary component of that strength was a red heat of anger. -Rogue Planet
Anger that is hot as the core of the Sun, this was about to spill from within, it grows within him every time he gets angry or someone pisses him off
-The Blood Carver had hurt Obi-Wan, threatened Jabitha, called Anakin a slave. For these things there was no possible redemption. The banked anger threatened to spill over, unconverted, pure and very raw, hot as a sun’s core. Anakin’s fingers curled tighter -Rogue Planet
All this unimaginable power lies just below the surface and is ascending
It was the connection Anakin had sought, the link between his anger and his power. Like a switch being thrown, a circuit being connected, he returned full circle to the pit race, to the sting he had felt with the Blood Carver’s first insult, with the first unfair and sneaky move that had sent Anakin tumbling off the apron. Then, back farther, to the dingy slave quarters on Tatooine, to the Boonta Eve Podrace and the treachery of the Dug, and to the last sight of Shmi, still in bondage to the disgusting Watto, to all the insults and injuries and shames and night sweats and disgrace piled upon disgrace that he had never asked for, never deserved, and had borne with almost infinite patience. Call it instinct, animal nature, call it the upwelling of hatred and the dark side—in Anakin Skywalker, all this lay just beneath the surface, at the end of its journey out of a long, deep cave leading down to unimaginable strength. “No! Stop it, please!” Anakin yelled. “Help me stop it!” The rumbling of his ascending power drowned out this plea for his master to come and prevent a hideous mistake. I am so afraid, so full of hate and anger. I still don’t know how to fight. -Rogue Planet
On Sekot Anakin bonds with 9 bora-seeds showing superiority even at this point to anyone in Luke's New Jedi Order, the highest number anybody had ever bonded with, and this is Anakin's first mission
-As she approached Zonama Sekot’s landing platform, Jaina saw that Corran, Kyp, Tekli, Alema, and several of the other Jedi had gathered while she had been off searching for Jacen. With five seed-partners apiece, Kyp and Saba had bonded with the highest number. Fist-sized, fuzzy white orbs, the seed-partners had attached themselves to Kyp’s robe and Saba’s tunic. Corran had four, while Kyle, Lowbacca, Alema, and the other candidates were hosting only two apiece. Jabitha had said that Anakin Skywalker had bonded with nine— the highest number anyone had ever bonded with. The Magister had also explained that when the seed-partners eventually sloughed their shells they would be able to crawl about on four tiny legs, and issue shrieks and whimpers. -The Unifying Force
Indeed Anakin's power is compared to Sekot
New Jedi Order: Force Heretic III: Reunion wrote:The being projecting the image of Anakin Skywalker had all the resources of a planet behind it, yet still it radiated uncertainty. It was easy to believe that it was the child Luke's father had once been, enormously powerful, tempted by the dark side but still too young to know what was right or wrong.
28BBY (13 Years Old) He exceeded expectations of being the Chosen One, and his power was so great it was dangerous to the Jedi
-In his short time at the Temple, Anakin's progress had been astonishing. By everything that was measurable, he exceeded expectations. He was at the top of his class in lightsaber training, piloting, memory skills, and the most important goal of all - connection to the Force. -Jedi Quest: Path to Truth
Yet it was exactly his quick progress that gave Obi-Wan pause. Things came too easily to him. There was a danger of recklessness and arrogance inherent in his power -Jedi Quest: Path to Truth
27BBY (14 Years Old) His command of the force keeps on growing
Obi-Wan told himself that Anakin’s gifts naturally set him apart. But in his heart, he grieved for Anakin’s loneliness. He was happy for Anakin’s skill and growing command of the Force. But he wished a simple thing for Anakin. It was something he could not give his Padawan. -Jedi Quest: Way of the Apprentice
His power staggering Obi-Wan
Anakin reached out and gathered it around them. A fellow Jedi was in danger. That made their connection to the Force even stronger, made their ability to gather it more urgent. Obi-Wan felt the power of Anakin’s grasp of the Force. As always, it staggered him -Jedi Quest: The Trial of the Jedi
25BBY (16 Years Old) Indeed Anakin already has power that rivals the Masters, only 3 years into his training casually demonstrating power on the level of the great masters, having the greatest force connection of them all
Never had Obi-Wan seen such a display of the Force from a Padawan. From the great Jedi Masters, yes. From Qui-Gon, near the end of his life. But from someone so young? Anakin's power astonished him. He had glimpsed it before, but now he had seen it unfurl, and it staggered him. He had not had a chance to move, to help. Anakin had been a blur. He had seemed to be everywhere at once. He had destroyed ten attack droids, disarmed his aggressors, and disabled two laser cannons without hesitation, with even a slight smile on his face. -Jedi Quest: The School of Fear
23BBY (18 Years Old) At this point he is already twice as powerful as Darth Vader in the Suit in 18BBY, (Bare in mind this is from Ferus' perspective and the last time Ferus saw Anakin was in Jedi Quest)
-He'd never been present while Vader was rebuked by his Master. Anakin had always hated being chided in public. Anakin had always wanted to be the best. Use it. Use what you know. Bring him down. He is half of what he was.
-Last of the Jedi: Master of Deception
Anakin picks up the water from many fountains and freezes the water, holding it in mid air, with a fraction of his power
-Jedi Quest: Final Showdown wrote:Anakin took his anger and focused it. For a moment, the water from the many fountains around him hung suspended in the air. He used the Force to keep the water frozen in midair, just to prove he could do it. The silence filled his ears. Then he let it fall, all the fountains gushing, trickling, racing once again. The noise seemed enormous now, a torrent. As though he could hear every drop of water hit every pebble.
Anakin felt a surge of power. This was only a part of what he was capable of.
Anakin's heart swelled. Of course it would be him. He was the Chosen One, the one with the greatest skills, the greatest Force connection -Jedi Quest: Final Showdown
22BBY (19 Years Old) Every time he comes into situations where he needs more power he grows on the spot to the required level (This is not merely some temporary growth because the force within him actually grows, Anakin is growing with every challenge to the point where its almost jaw dropping for Kenobi to witness)
-He tried to will his own mastery into the two learners, to lend some of his own strength to each of them. Yet as they marched deliberately forward, ever deeper into the herd, a strange thing happened. While Barriss held her own, Anakin seemed to grow stronger. It was as if, faced by the challenge and the very real proximity of death, the Force grew within him. Obi-Wan did not entirely understand what was happening, but at the moment he was far too preoccupied to examine the phenomenon. -The Approaching Storm
And we come to Attack of the Clones to where he is the greatest Jedi of ALL TIME which spans both future and past (This will be in direct reference to power, because at this point that is all Anakin really has that would make him the greatest, its not like he is a wise master), and he is noted as perhaps more powerful than Yoda (We know he is by now of course)
-"Star Wars has always been big for my generation," Christensen said. "When Episode I came out my entire high school went to the theater for the first showing. It was a big event, and to be a part of that now is very special." Christensen will be on stage for interviews at Celebration II, and to answer questions from the audience. Hear what it's like to learn to use a lightsaber, to work in a Star Wars film, and to portray the greatest Jedi of all time, Anakin Skywalker. -Hayden Christensen at Star Wars Celebration II! | Starwars.com
Anakin is "the Chosen One" of ancient Jedi prophecies, the one who will "bring balance to the Force" He is very powerful in the Force, perhaps even more powerful than Yoda, However he doesnt yet have Yoda's experience and as a result, has a much harder time controlling all that power -Galactic Campaign Guide
Anakin thinks he already rivals Master Yoda as a swordsman
Attack of the Clones Script wrote:OBI_WAN: if you spent as much time practicing your saber techniques as you did your flying then you'd rival Master Yoda as a swordsman
ANAKIN: I thought I already did
He hard presses Count Dooku in AOTC and Forces him to work to defeat him
Attack of the Clone's Novelization wrote:"I'm a slow learner," Anakin replied coolly, and he came on then, so suddenly, so powerfully, his green blade whirling with such speed that he seemed almost encased in green light.
For the first time, Count Dooku lost his little confident smile. He had to work furiously to keep Anakin's blade at bay, dodging more than parrying. He tried to step out to the side, but stopped as if he had hit a wall, and his eyes widened a bit when he realized that this young Padawan, in the midst of that assault, had used the Force to block his exit.
"You have unusual powers, young Padawan," he sincerely congratulated. His little grin returned, and gradually Dooku put himself back on even footing with Anakin, trading thrust for slash and forcing Anakin to dodge and parry as often as he tried to strike.
Which fatigues Dooku for his fight with Yoda
And from that state of power he goes into a state of power that is beyond anything he had ever known, which includes Zonoma Sekot and any of the Jedi or past threats he has seen or even knows about, including any amps he has ever felt. this power can be felt from across the galaxy and rouses Qui-Gon from the Netherworld while overwhelming Yoda to where he cannot focus his thoughts despite them being more focused than ever at the time, NOTHING can stop Anakin in this state
-Deep in his meditations, peering through the dark side, Master Yoda felt a sudden surge of anger, of outrage beyond control. The diminutive Master's eyes popped open wide at the overwhelming strength of that rage. And then he heard a voice, a familiar voice, crying, "No, Anakin! No! Don't! No!" It was Qui-Gon. Yoda knew that it was Qui-Gon. But Qui-Gon was dead, had become one with the Force! One could not retain consciousness and sense of self in that state; one could not speak from beyond the grave. But Yoda had heard the ghostly call, and in his deep meditative state, his thoughts focused as precisely as they had ever been, the Jedi Master knew that he had not been mistaken. He wanted to focus on that, then, perhaps to try to follow that call back to the ghostly source, but he could not,overwhelmed again by the surge of rage and pain and... power. ... He didn't feel empty any longer. He felt a surge of energy and strength beyond anything he had ever known, felt full of the Force, full of power, full of life. -Attack of the Clones Novelisation
-With the death of his mother, something seemed to snap inside Anakin. Stricken with guilt and remorse, he felt a rage rising up Inside him that he was unable to control. Before he knew what was happening, he was striding through the camp slaying everything that moved - man, woman and child. So intense we’re his emotions that they roused the spirit of Qui-Gonn Jinn - who called on Anakin to stop - while at the same time, on Coruscant, Master Yoda also sensed something was amiss in the Force. Nothing, however, could stop Anakin -Relaunched Fact File 104
Anakin then says he will become the most powerful Jedi (Jedi here means force user In general since he has to go to the dark side to do it, and this is generally the language Lucas uses.)
-And it also shows his jealousy and anger at Obi-Wan and blaming everyone else for his inability to be as powerful as he wants to be, which he here, swears he will be, so here he sort of lays out his ambition and you'll see later on his ambition and his dialogue here is the same as Dooku's. He says "I will become more powerful than every Jedi." And you'll hear later on Dooku will say "I have become more powerful than any Jedi." ~George Lucas, AotC DVD Commentary
“The key part of this scene is Anakin saying, ‘I’m not going to let this happen again.’ We’re cementing his determination to become the most powerful Jedi, and the only way you can really do that is to go to the Dark side because the Dark side is more powerful. If you want the ultimate power you really have to go to the stronger side, which is the Dark side, but ultimately it’ll be your undoing ~George Lucas, AotC DVD Commentary
Anakin is now privy to this level of power and then lays out his ambitions which is to be the most powerful force user ever, then in 22BBY learns how to better harness power from the force around him, which might even give him too much power
-"Yes, I can teach you to harness the power of the Force around you, making you immune to the Dark Reaper's effects. for a short time, but this knowledge comes at great risk, the knowledge you seek is very powerful Anakin, use it carefully or it will lead you to the Dark Side " -The Clone Wars Video Game: Desperate Gambit
The ancient Jedi Master warned that the knowledge he would pass to Anakin would let him resist the effects of the Force-stripping Harvester and the Dark Reaper it activated, but would perhaps give him too much power. Official Fact File 107
Indeed this does happen and Anakin becomes more powerful than he could have even imagined, more powerful than even his state of power that overwhelmed Yoda which nothing can stop and more powerful even than the power he imagined as being the most powerful force user ever after he proclaimed he would be, more powerful than he would ever even IMAGINE
-Follow the advice of Ulic Qel-Droma throughout this fight and you grow more powerful than you can imagine. -Star Wars: The Clone Wars Prima Official Strategy Guide
-Obi-wan: You've grown more powerful Anakin: I only did what I had to, for the Republic Obi-Wan: Careful Anakin, if you do not control the power inside you, it will consume you -Clone Wars Video Game: Fate of the Republic
Although the knowledge given to Anakin allowed him to destroy the Dark Reaper, Obi-Wan was uncomfortable with the power that his Padawan now wielded. -Official Fact File 107
This is now Anakin's base power, he continues to grow from there realizing his potential during the Clone Wars
-The Clone Wars allowed Anakin to realise his potential and also allowed Palpatine to drive a wedge between Anakin and the Jedi Order, helped by Skywalker's secret marriage to Padme Amidala. Above all, the Clone Wars would bring Darth Sidious a worthy apprentice. Together, they would rule the galaxy -Relaunched Fact File #6
And later that very year goes deeper into the force than ever and achieves total oneness, possessing ALL of the power of the force to command and do as he will
-Anakin reached deep into the Force. A sense of invincible power came over him, infusing him completely. Even during the desperate battle with the enemy tank droids and the attack on the hill he had not experienced the Force as fully as it now flowed into him. In that instant when he achieved total oneness with the Force he knew he could do anything, and it felt good. _ Anakin was so fully filled with the Force that he was barely aware of himself. All he knew was the joy of the Force, a greater joy than he’d ever felt before. There was so much power in the Force, and all that power was his—his!—to do with as he would.
-Jedi Trial
Anakin is one of the Temples finest Jedi moving too fast for ordinary eyes to see, he puts on a display of unmatched skill
-Clone Wars: Wild Space wrote:Master Kenobi and Master Anakin increased their speed. The training lightsabers moved in a blur too fast to see with ordinary eyes. She could still count the individual moves; her Togrutan heritage had gifted her with senses more acute than those of a human, and many other species besides. Holding her breath, amazed and humbled, she watched two of the Temple's finest Jedi put on a display of unmatched skill.
Anakin moves in perfect Harmony with the Force
Clone Wars Visual Guide: Ultimate Battles wrote:
21BBY (20 Years Old) Anakin demonstrates force augmentation utterly beyond Mace Windu and probably anyone ever
"You'll be fine, Anakin," said Obi-Wan. "I doubt anyone will ever break your Temple leap record." The one he'd set just over a year ago. The one that had smashed Mace Windu's leap by nearly fifteen meters. No, probably no one ever would break that. -Clone Wars: Gambit: Stealth
And his TK is compared to a bomb going off
-Clone Wars wrote:The men sprinted for the door, plunging into the acrid black smoke that now filled the courtyard. It was some kind of cover for a few seconds. Anakin saw the droids, hampered by their own debris, and his eyes went to the blazing carcass of the AT-TE.
Just do it.
Adrenaline fueled him. He sent the wreckage skidding across the ground with a massive Force push. The kinetic force of the impact and the sheet of flame released when it slammed into the droid ranks had the effect of a bomb going off.
-Relaunched 11 wrote:
Anakin withdraws further into himself
-Relaunched 11 wrote:
The Clone Wars Encyclopedia wrote:
while of course continuing to grow from there
-Although members of the Jedi Council observed that Anakin was still prone to arrogance and impatience, no one disputed the fact that he continued to grow even stronger with the power of the Force. -The Life and Legend of Darth Vader
-Clone Wars Episode Gallery wrote:
Anakin holds off a Theta Storm, a feat Yoda probably could not replicate
-Clone Wars: Gambit Siege wrote:The next storm-shield generator overloaded just as Anakin reached it. He had a split second's warning, one hammer blow from the Force. The storm seemed to hold its breath…
...and then exhaled in renewed fury as the generator erupted in a burning light show of sparks. With a scream like a wounded animal the shield directly overhead collapsed and a maelstrom of theta particles poured through the gap.
He acted on instinct - and out of sheer bloody-minded terror. Throwing up his hands he used the Force to hold back the stream of theta particles, and with a shout of rage became one with the storm shield. Rejected the storm. He thought he could feel his blood bubbling. He was losing himself, disappearing within the scarlet vortex of the Force as it consumed him and transformed him into fire.
And there was his mother, whispering again. He can help you. He was meant to help you. Furious, Anakin stood alone against the storm.
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Every alarm in the monitoring station was sounding. Devi pushed her antigrav harness to its limits as she flung herself from station to station.
"No, no, don't do that!" she shouted, slamming switches, hitting buttons. "Don't you dare!"
"Devi!" Obi-Wan yelled. "Tell me what I can do to..."
She flung out an arm, pointing toward the generator and storm-shield status board. "Glue your eyes to those gauges. We've got one shield generator down. If another goes it's over. We're all dead. I don't even know how the rest of the shield's still holding but I don't care. It's holding and that's all that matters!"
I know how. It's Anakin. May the Force protect him.
Sick with fear for him, Obi-Wan crossed to the status board and read off the gauges, even as his stomach churned and the bile rose in his throat.
Hold on, Anakin. I'll be there as soon as I can.
Because surely not even the Chosen One could hold back a theta storm on his own.
"It was the most awful thing I've ever seen," Qui-Gon had told him, so many years ago. "Theta storms kill in two ways, you see. If you're contaminated from a distance, well, it takes a long time to die. But if you are in the storm's path it will rip you to pieces and then melt your bones. I've seen it kill both ways, and both ways arc cruel. Better to be swallowed alive by a sarlacc."
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The moment he set foot outside the power plant he turned toward Anakin - and felt his heart thud as he saw the gaping hole in the storm shield. Felt the furious concentration of power, of the Force, in that one small place as Anakin held back the storm's might.
And then he felt the gathered villagers, their numbers growing, their fear and astonishment mounting, as they watched the stranger from Voteb do a thing that should not be humanly possible.
Hold on, Anakin. Hold on.
He turned and Force-sprinted for the endangered refinery.
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Anakin felt the explosion heartbeats before it happened. Sweating and trembling with the effort of holding back the theta storm, ignoring the villagers who'd come to see what was going on, he tried to send Obi-Wan a warning - but his mind was so bludgeoned by the quicksilver torment of keeping the raging storm at bay that he couldn't feel his former Master's presence.
And then the refinery went up like Coruscant fireworks on Republic Day.
Screams and shouts sounded as panic surged through the Force, bright and white and stunning. Vision smearing and blearing, Anakin sought in the crowd for Teeba Jaklin. She'd come from the charter house to see what the fuss was about and remained because she couldn't believe her own eyes.
"Jaklin! Teeba Jaklin!"
She pushed and shoved and swore her way to him through the jostling villagers who pointed and gasped and were beginning to break for the refinery.
"Yes, Markl?" She scowled. "If that's even your name."
"It's my name at the moment, " he said, his teeth gritted against the relentless pain of the storm. "Teeba Jaklin, please. Find Yavid for me. Make sure he's all right."
The explosion's echoes rolled around the village, trapped beneath the barely holding shield. The red storm-glow beyond it was matched by the red glow of leaping flames. The refinery was burning. He and Jaklin stared at each other as the rest of Torbel's people ran to help, shadows in the glare of the storm. Some headed for the artesian well, for water. Others made straight for the burning building full of raw damotite.
A chilling thought struck him. Was the mineral itself flammable? That smoke - was it a toxic cloud poised to poison every last man, woman, and child beneath the storm shield?
"Teeba Jaklin! Is there danger from the..."
Her eyes were full of fear. "Yes. Not drop-dead-on-the-spot trouble but even with our secret protection we'll all of us be sickly in the next few days." She looked up at the thrashing theta storm over their heads. "Unless that clears quick soon and we can down the shields so the smoke gets to blow clean away."
"Which..." He had to pause, to rebalance himself. The effort of fighting the storm was threatening to drive him to his knees. He'd started to breathe in harsh gasping pants. "Which is- worse? The theta particles- or the damotite- smoke?"
The question made her laugh grimly. "The storm - unless it doesn't clear and we're left breathing smoke for hours on end. Then we'll be likely done for whichever way you slice the bread."
Of course they would be. The universe had a stinking sense of humor.
"You need- to find Yavid," he gasped. "If he's- not hurt he- can help you."
The look on her face said she thought they were all beyond help. "I'll look for him. How much longer before you fail, Teeb?"
He didn't know. He didn't want to think about that. "I'm- all right. Go. Please." Another deep, shuddering breath. "Find Yavid."
They were alone now, save for the men working on the shield generator. Jaklin turned away from him. "Guyne! How soon before that generator's fixed?"
The oldest of the four feverishly tinkering men spared her a glance. "Going as fast as we can, Jaklin. Half the circuits are burned out. "
Anakin tightened his hold on the Force, feeling the seethe and surge of the storm like living fire. "I can- hold on, Teeba. Don't- worry- about me. Just go. Go!"
Half step by half step, Jaklin retreated. In the garish light her eyes were narrowed. A muscle worked along her jaw. "I know what you are, young Teeb. You're..."
"Not- now, " he said, almost groaning. "Please. Find Yavid. Tell him- I'll get there- soon as- I can. "
Instead of answering, she turned to look at Guyne one last time. "Could be our lives are with you now, old Teeb," she said, her voice cracking. "Don't you be letting us down."
His teeth showed briefly in his thin, seamed face. "Not planning to, old Teeba. Get on now. Rikkard'll have need of you."
Anakin took another rib-cracking breath. "Teeba..."
"I know," she snapped, retreating. "Yavid. I said I'd look, and I will. I'm an honest one - even if you aren't."
She broke into a flat-footed run. He watched her for a few short, uneven strides, feeling Guyne's measured stare.
Don't look at me, old man. Fix that generator, would you?
Anakin hurt so much now it would be easy just to... give in. Give up. Let go. But he couldn't do that. Hundreds of lives were depending on him. He had to stand here and take it until the generator was fixed - or his heart gave out. So he closed his eyes. Whether it made sense or not he always found it easier to focus his will when cocooned in darkness.
With sight denied him all his other senses leapt to keener life. The stink of the shield generator's scorched circuitry. The stink of burning damotite from the exploded refinery. The stink of his own sweat. He heard - felt - three more explosions. Smaller this time, in swift succession. There were shouts, sirens. Sounds and echoes drumming. The worst of the Force's insistent warning had faded, leaving him scoured hollow and stunned. Now all he felt in the Force was confusion, fear and pain. Everything he usually felt, no matter where he was. It was terrible and yet, in the strangest way, also comforting. He knew how to deal with that.
It was the unknown that made him nervous.
How long had he been standing here, holding back the storm? Probably less than an hour. It felt like days. Years. He didn't have much time before the choice of whether to let go or endure would be out of his hands. Even the Chosen One had limits.
He remembered himself as a small boy, boasting to Qui-Gon at his mother's rough table.
Has anyone ever seen a Podrace? I'm the only human who can do it.
And now he was probably the only Jedi who could turn himself into a living storm shield.
It isn't boasting. It's the truth. I've got a knack for beating the odds.
Now all he had to do was beat these odds for just a little bit longer…
Sweat pouring, heart pounding, dimly aware that he was burning himself out, Anakin clung to the Force like a child to its mother's hand. Time passed. He passed with it, in silence.
"All right," said Giuyne at last. "I think that's got it. Teeb Markl..."
Stirring, he opened his eyes. "Teeb?"
"We're going to try the generator. Get ready."
He managed to nod.
The other three men stepped back from the generator as Guyne, sore and sorry and tired, took a deep breath and reconnected the power supply. He flipped a series of switches, waited- waited- then activated the shield.
With a sizzling hum the storm shield came back online. Guyne and his three friends cheered, tiredly ecstatic... and Anakin slumped, falling boneless and graceless to the hard, dry ground.
He could feel himself shaking. Teeth chattering, lungs aching for air, he rolled on to his side and curled into a ball. His lightsaber, undiscovered, banged against his ribs as Torbel swung and spun around him. Vaguely he was aware of agitated voices calling his name and concerned hands poking and prodding to see if he was still in one piece. He couldn't say. He couldn't answer their anxious, shouted questions. He couldn't even tell if he was still hurting or if what he felt now was just the memory of pain. Only once before had he ever felt anything close to this, and that was on Geonosis, in the cave, after Dooku's savage Force lightning had come close to killing him. After a while... eons... the worst of the shuddering passed. He opened his eyes, uncurled his spine and looked up. Yes, Torbel had a storm shield - and it wasn't him. On the other side of the plasma the theta storm continued to spit radioactive rage.
Spit away. I don't care. You're not getting in.
He rolled onto his hands and knees and then levered himself upright. Reaching hands helped him, and he was grateful for that. Red and black spots danced before his eyes. He had to blink and blink to clear his vision.
"Steady there, young Teeb," said Guyne, holding tight to his elbow. "Went down hard, you did. Just you catch your breath."
"I'm all right," he said, and was startled to hear how raw his voice sounded. Staggering, he turned to look across the darkened village toward the refinery. The flames were dying down, and the smoke. But the air was still tainted and thick. He tried not to think about the poison he was sucking into his lungs.
He looked back at Guyne. "Stay here and keep an eye on that generator, Teeb. And if it looks like blowing again send for me. I'll come back."
In the shifting light the old villager's salt-gray eyebrows lifted. "Mighty sure of yourself you are, for a young Teeb," he said, very dry. "Never knew a Lanteeban farmer with your knack of taking charge. Never knew any farmer could hold back a theta storm, neither. Not with the power of his mind."
Behind him, his friends nodded agreement, a small knot of suspicion even though they were grateful.
Anakin sighed. "Teeb Guyne, we both know I'm not a farmer. Will you stay here?"
"We'll stay," said Guyne, nodding. "And if we're needful of a Jedi we'll know where to look."
Wonderful. Obi-Wan's going to kill me.
He had no hope of Force-sprinting his way to the ruined refinery. The vicious edge of his pain had dulled, but every bone and muscle and sinew still ached. His sense of the Force was fiercely dimmed... and how long it would take for his numb shock to subside he couldn't begin to guess. He'd never exhausted himself like this before.
There's a first time for everything, I suppose. I just really wish that this wasn't it.
Gagging at the stench of burned damotite, he pushed himself into a stumbling run, left the villagers behind him and went in search of Obi-Wan
Clone Wars: Gambit Siege wrote:Anakin's face went still. "I didn't have a choice, Master. The shield collapsed and the storm- I couldn't let it..."
"I know you couldn't. I'm not angry. If anything, I'm astonished. Anakin, what you managed..." Obi-Wan shook his head. "I'm not certain that Yoda himself could've held this wretched storm back the way you did, for as long as you did. You saved the village
And holds off a laser that could have destroyed the Jedi Temple
-Clone Wars Comic UK 6.22 wrote:
Anakin's skills rival Mace Windu's in S1-2 of CW
-Mace Windu: Clone Wars Adventures wrote:[To Anakin] Your skills rival my own
Clone Wars Comic Magazine 6.39 wrote:
Anakin is getting closer to his destiny
-Star Wars Insider wrote:
Anakin faces his destiny
Clone Wars Comic Magazine 6.19 wrote:
I won't write about the Mortis feat here seeing as we talked about it above, but as you now know, Anakin dominates The One's, demonstrating power at least on par with The Father, he gives himself to the Dark Side and joins The Son, his power growing immensely, after all that Anakin's power stays the same it was only his memories of the event that were erased!
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--Relaunched Fact File 111 wrote:
-The Clone Wars Episode Guide wrote:
--Clone Wars Episode Guide wrote:
Relaunched 111 wrote:
Anakin comes into his own when he affirms the belief in him being the Chosen One
-If he is the Chosen One he will discover it here -Overlords Script
-Overlords Script wrote:To learn the truth about who you really are. One that maybe you have known all along. One you must believe
in order to fulfill your destiny.
-What does it mean now that Anakin is the Chosen One and he has a better understanding of that -Dave Filloni Secrets of Mortis Featurette
-Relaunched Fact File 6 wrote:
-“The powerful always trick the simple with the promise of power. That’s the easiest way to bring someone to see the dark side. ‘Give in to your anger!’ It’s a simple trick, and an effective one, because it works. When people stop denying what they have always known in their hearts is true, they come to some degree into their own power.
-Yoda Dark Rendezvous
Star Wars: Official Collectors’ Movie Souvenir Edition wrote:
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When the Daughter (Light) dies, the Sith grow vastly in strength
Ghosts of Mortis Episode Gallery wrote:
The Sith/Dark Side have never been so Strong
Although the son has always touched the dark side, never before has he been so deeply held within its grip. -The Clone Secrets Revealed in 3D - Pablo Hidalgo
As the Son reaches further into the dark side, so too will the Sith gain strength and power. -The Clone Wars: Secrets Secrets Revealed in 3D - Pablo Hidalgo
The One's acted as caps to power, guarding it and making sure mortals don't get too powerful by exploiting their power. When they die these caps are released allowing people to enter their realm of power since there is nobody guarding it
-“We are the ones who guard the power. We are the middle, the beginning, and the end.” “Glad she cleared that up for us.”
- Overlords Script
-Clone Wars Comic UK 6.17 wrote:
-Then why reveal yourselves to us? There are some who would like to exploit our power. The sith are but one. Too much dark or light would be the undoing of life as you understand it. When news reached me that the chosen one had been found, I needed to see for myself.
- Overlords Script
Anakin, naturally, due to his current position in power grows well into and past the One's range of power, him now taking the Father's place with the Force now unrestrained, I hear often questions like 'If Anakin is far above the One's then how is Dooku competing with him?' and this is the reason, Dooku too is growing into the One's range after their death's,As seen above with Dooku later representing the entire Dark Side vs the Chosen One
Note that the One's cap anybody before them in T-Canon and G-Canon which is takes precedent over C-Canon regardless of out of universe dating, so the Ones being above anybody prior to them is absolute fact.
-OVERLORDS EPISODE FEATURETTE wrote:i was actually out of the room for the first ten or fifteen minutes of George's pitch of these force wielders, and I remember coming back in the room, George sat me down and he started explaining to me there are these gods and they wield the force they are much more powerful than any Jedi Knight
-The Clone Wars: Altar of Mortis wrote:There, they discover three beings more powerful with the Force than any Jedi have seen before
Going to Mortis gives one unique insight into how the universe is bound together, a deeper understanding into the very basis of the Force, not increasing one's living Force power but deepening ones connection and understanding of the Cosmic Force, Anakin receives this special insight, likely to a far greater degree than normally tapping into it all and using it, It is his power and he understands it now.
-Nexus of Power wrote:
A master of unpredictable tactics
-Clone Wars Magazine 7 wrote:
Anakin faced the most terrifying opponents ever showing he is the best ever
-Relaunched 11 wrote:
Anakin gets better and better against Dooku and matches him as his skills improve
Relaunched 11 wrote:
19BBY (21-22 Years Old) Anakin then grows vastly in power after Ahsoka leaves the order.
But Ahsoka eventually became disillusioned and left the Jedi Order, an act which Anakin regretted. The Clone Wars continued, and Anakin became a hero and grew vastly in power. -Anakin Skywalker Databank
His power now incalculable
Skyewalkers wrote:A childish instinct unexpectedly seized him. Anakin lowered his head, eyes hot, clenching his jaw shut with all his incalculable power, determined not to give in to nature, not caring if all his teeth shattered.
And then on Vjun Anakin feels one with his entire surroundings both living and mechanical, he can walk on water and fly around because of the power there. The way he talks about it and announces that he could walk on water implies this is power beyond anything he had ever felt, which would include his prior state of total oneness 3 years earlier and his Mortis amp 2 years earlier, but how can he be more powerful than in Oneness or on Mortis because he is drawing on ALL the power in those instances ? the reason for that is as outlined above, Anakin is the force, its grows with him and he grows into it.
-"I love this planet. It's just steeped in the Force. I could feel it the moment we touched the atmosphere. I'm usually a good pilot-" "Great pilot," Obi-Wan admitted. "-But here it was like the ship's hull and my skin were the same thing. I could feel exactly how much heat she could take, how much torque, how many rolls..." "Clearly you weren't using the Force to commune with my stomach." Obi-Wan, still looking a little green, picked up a blaster rifle and a couple of concussion grenades. "The difference between Coruscant and here is like the difference between swimming in fresh water and in the ocean. I feel so buoyant." -Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
Anakin hung in the air for an impossibly long time, let himself fall at last into a shoulder roll, two more shots at a droid trying to sneak up behind him, taking off its weapon hand and blowing out a knee, and then he was standing, perfectly balanced, with the blaster pistols steaming in the thin Vjun rain. "I could walk on water," he said. -Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
roughly a few weeks later Anakin's base state has already surpassed his amped state on Vjun where he was literally flying around an walking on water like Jesus
-Beside him, Obi-Wan stirred and coughed. “You’re getting awfully good at destroying things,” he said. “On Vjun, you needed a grenade to do this much damage.” Anakin shook the vision from his mind. “I told you I was becoming more powerful.” -Labyrinth of Evil
demonstrated by him demolishing a massive structure with a Force scream, a greater threat than anyone realized
-Labyrinth of Evil wrote:In the ruined archive hall of LiMerge Power's plasma facility, Count Dooku waited for Kenobi and Skywalker to arrive. The room was enormous by any standard, thirty meters high and three times that in circumference.
More droids appeared. To Dooku, this was nothing more than a game, Obi-Wan told himself. But if it was a demonstration of Force ability Dooku wanted, then Anakin was still more than willing to provide it.
"Dooku!" he howled.
With such force and wrath that the ceiling of the vast hall began to collapse.
Dragging himself out from under plasteel girders and chunks of ferrocrete, Count Dooku came shakily to his feet and gazed in astonished disbelief at the shambles of the control room. Had the containment dome been so weak that it had succumbed to flurries of ricocheting blaster bolts, or had Skywalker's voiced rage actually called the ceiling down? Had Dooku not leapt forcefully at the last moment, he might have been buried, as the two Jedi were, somewhere below, in the expanse of rubble that covered the archive room. He was certain that they had survived. But if nothing else they were trapped, which had been the intent from the start.
But Skywalker... Assuming that he had grown powerful enough to have collapsed the dome, the end result was simply further evidence that he would someday undo himself. Wasn't it? Because admitting to any alternative explanation meant accepting that Skywalker was potentially a greater threat to the Sith than anyone realized.
George Lucas was very particular about this and how he wanted Anakin's totally individual style to evolve, in his best moments he is beautifully balanced and with frightening speed, everything you would expect from the Chosen One, Anakin is beautifully balanced, Hayden is the best swords man in Hollywood after Ep III
--Ask the Lucasfilm Jedi Council: Nick Gillard wrote:
Anakin hones his power to near perfection
-A Guide To The Star Wars Universe wrote:Anakin honed his use of the Force to near perfection, fighting along side Kenobi and Bail Organa, among others.
Obi-Wan only goes up one level between TPM and ROTS, Anakin goes up four from AOTC to ROTS, so in 14 years Obi-Wan goes up one level where as Anakin is going up four in 3 years, meaning it would take Obi-Wan 56 years to go from where Anakin was in AOTC versus where he is in ROTS, in a film context Anakin gains 1.33 tiers per year, with each tier dramatically increasing in size.Nick Gillard Insider wrote:"Obi-Wan has gone up one level from Episode I to Episode III, but it’s a huge jump from one level to another. It’s not just about a style of fighting—it’s mental as well. Anakin has gone up probably four levels from Episode II to Episode III. So he’s gone beyond Obi-Wan, but he hasn’t gone beyond him mentally."
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-Hayden Christensen - The Chosen One Featurette wrote:Darth Vader fighting style is much more aggressive and much more brutal than Anakin's
That just speaks to the rate in which Anakin is growing daily, around this timeframe he fights Dooku on Oba Diah along with Kenobi (Season 6), and Is growing from there and soon after during Revenge of the Sith has DOUBLED since the last time he met Dooku.
-If anyone can save Palpatine, Anakin will. Because he's already the best, and he's still getting better. But locked away behind the walls of his heart, the dragon that is his fear coils and squirms and hisses -Revenge of the Sith
-"My powers have doubled since the last time we met Count, Good, twice the pride, double the fall" -Revenge of the Sith
-My powers have doubled since last we met
-Revenge of the Sith Video Game
(Yes initially intended to mean AOTC but since TCWS6 that has changed as confirmed by Leland Chee)
-Leland Chee Twitter wrote:
Which also ties into the Tiers, If Anakin was previously going up 4 Tiers in 3 years, and 4 Tiers is said to be Anakin doubling, then that 4 Tier gap was changed with TCW, to not be since AOTC, but since TCW S6 which could be anywhere from a few weeks to a few months rather than 3 years, so Anakin has gone up 4 Tiers in a few months, previously 1.33 Tiers per year, now its well over 4 Tiers in at the very most 6 months so at the very least it is 8 Tiers in one year and likely even more, post the release of TCW Season 6. that is roughly the difference between some dude off the street on Coruscant to Master Yoda, its literally the whole scale that Anakin is increasing in the year leading up to ROTS. use that for a reference on how fast Anakin is growing all of the time.
-Star Wars Insider Heroes of the Force wrote:
-Insider 71 wrote:
-TCW Episode Guide wrote:
For Episode 3 George wanted Anakin to look more akin to Obi-Wan's Master, to symbolize him going beyond the teachings.
-Starships and Vehicle Collection 33 wrote:
After growing twice as powerful he is now at the very peak of his powers, more powerful than any amp he received at a base state, impossibly powerful
-Dooku felt himself blanch. Where had this come from? Skywalker came on, mechanically inexorable, impossibly powerful, a destroyer droid with a lightsaber: each step a blow and each blow a step. Dooku backed away as fast as he dared; Skywalker stayed right on top of him -Revenge of the Sith
-Revenge of the Sith: The Goods wrote:Tell us more about what's in the game but not he film.
Justin Lambros: What we wanted to do was expand upon ideas and scenes that were maybe cut short or just, you know, through the editing process don't appear very long in the film. We're able to then expand and fully realize different environments and attacks and events that may just be a minute or two in the film sequence, but then we'll get to show Anakin and Obi-Wan in their fullest, their most powerful, and give players then a chance to relive all those big exciting action sequences even larger and bigger than what is seen in the film.
-Galactic Files (2014) wrote:
--Star Wars Annual 2014 wrote:
Obi-Wan Kenobi and, critically, Anakin Skywalker came to rescue the Chancellor. Dooku fought well, but Anakin was at the peak of his powers. The count managed to knock Obi-Wan out of the fight but his subsequent taunting of Anakin, of how the young man wasn't using his hate and anger as he should, backfired spectacularly -Relaunched Fact File 91
(its worth noting this source also acknowledges Mortis as seen in multiple above sources I cited from Relaunched Fact File, all three above sources post-date the Mortis Arc so would still intentionally include the amp he received)
And from this point Anakin gets stronger during the duel
-He understood how Skywalker was getting stronger. Why he no longer spoke. How he had become a machine of battle. He understood why Sidious had been so interested in him for so long. -Revenge of the Sith
-The shining blue lightsaber whirled and spat and every overhand chop crashed against Dooku's defense with the unstoppable power of a meteor strike; the Sith Lord spent lavishly of his reserve of the Force merely to meet these attacks without being cut in half, and Skywalker - Skywalker was getting stronger. -Revenge of the Sith
-That, now-that simple unbearable fact-that was truth. Though it burned him like his own lightsaber, truth was something he could hang on to. And somehow it made him feel a little better. A little stronger. -Revenge of the Sith
and just stood there without any Nexus amp or anything he feels more powerful than ever
-He had dreamed of capturing Grievous ever since Muunilinst-and now the general was close. So close Anakin could practically smell him . . . and Anakin had never felt so powerful. The Force was with him today in ways more potent than he had ever experienced. -Revenge of the Sith
Skywalker is arguably the most powerful Jedi alive, and he is still getting stronger." Mace Windu | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith Adult Novelization
And love stronger than ever, love as we know being the strongest emotion and emotions being force energies
Anakin wouldn’t hear them, of course, but perhaps he would feel the love behind them, the love that was stronger and deeper now than it had ever been. Revenge of the Sith Junior Novelization
- Vaelias
PROGRESSION & POSITION: SITH
August 8th 2023, 9:01 pm
"You were dead when I walked in the room"
-KFV
And then Anakin goes to the dark side experiencing growth far far faster than ever, growing immediately upon being bestowed with the mantle of Dark Lord
"Good . . . good . . . Together, we shall master every secret of the Force." The Sith Lord purred like a contented rancor. "You have done well, my new apprentice. Do you feel your power growing?" "Yes, my Master." "Lord Vader, your skills are unmatched by any Sith before you. Go forth, my boy. Go forth, and bring peace to our Empire." -Revenge of the Sith Novel
Which gives him the power of all the past Dark Lords. Drawing on their power from the underworld (Chaos)
Vader eventually gained the long-dormant title of Dark Lord of the Sith, allowing him to tap into the evil forces of tens of thousands of years. -Essential Guide to Characters
(This is about suit Vader but he gains the power when he is given the mantle)
Unable to breathe on his own he ware a life-supporting body armour: He controlled the forces for tens of thousands of years -Star Wars Topps
Falling fully to the dark side almost immediately with a commitment to it greater than any before, Dark Side growth and Anakin growth are one in the same, this Anakin before any of the confliction on Mustafar is what is referred to as KFV, Knight Fall Vader
-Relaunched Fact File 106 wrote:
Anakin was completely gone
-Relaunched Fact File 106 wrote:
-Relaunched 105 wrote:
-Relaunched Fact File 106 wrote:
Vaders anger fear and hatred grew and grew.
-Relaunched 106 wrote:
Growing Stronger with every Jedi he fights
-Revenge of the Sith Video Game Prima Guide wrote:
And then growing stronger when they die
-He could sense it happening, though not in detail — but he could feel the dark side growing stronger with every Jedi death. His only regret was that he couldn’t be there in person to watch each one of them die. -Revenge of the Sith Junior Novelisation.
-Relaunched 116 wrote:
-Battles for the Galaxy wrote:
He was growing more powerful than any Jedi
-Relaunched 19 wrote:
-Revenge of the Sith DS Game wrote:They think they can hide from me, I can sense them so very easily
-It should not have been a surprise. With the strength of the dark side growing, the Sith must, logically, have grown stronger, too. But always before, his own years of study and practice and his own strength with the Force had been more than enough to prevail. This time, he wasn’t sure. -Revenge of the Sith Junior Novelisation.
My powers are growing
- ROTS Video Game
During which time Anakin could completely stomp Master Yoda (In an alternate outcome)
-Battlefront IV Concept wrote:
G-Canon Episode III Concept Art depicts an alternate reality where those Jedi stayed in the Temple, and Anakin chokes out 3 of them without raising a hand, from the art this looks to be Saesee Tiin, Ki Adi Mundi and Kit Fisto, all being choked at the same time.
Episode III Concept Art wrote:
Vader fully immersed in his hatred and anger cuts down the separatists, bare in mind this is Anakin in his prime state, when he has all the power, but before all the confliction comes in and his dragon and clouding return.
Relaunched 116 wrote:
Killing the separatists completely eclipsed the light in him, with the Red Eye's that is Anakin in his prime (before confliction)
Complete Locations wrote:As Anakin's soul surrenders fully to the dark side, violent Mustafar seems to mirror his turmoil. Lefrani eclipses Mustafar's sun, just as Anakin's massacre of the Separatist Council eclipses the light of the Force within him. The violent eruptions of the lava rivers, when the repulsor fields are shutdown during his duel with Obi-Wan, seem almost driven by Anakin’s own pulsing hatred of everyone that he believes have conspired against him and thwarted his desires. Only in the deepest core of his being does he still treasure his love for Padmé.
Then Lucas says Anakin became 'all powerful' gathering all these new powers, he is powerful enough to be able to bring somebody back from the dead, which is unnatural Anakin is greater than ever as a Sith on Mustafar, he is more powerful than any Jedi ever dreamed of, Including himself prior to joining the Sith, who was already astronomically more powerful than any Jedi had ever dreamed of, he just needed another Month to learn how to apply that power he already has to save Padme.
-he made a pact with the devil, to be able to become all powerful, but of course when he did that, she didn't want anything to do with him anymore, so he lost her, once you are powerful, being able to bring her back from the dead. Well if I can do that then I can be emperor of the universe -George Lucas - The Force Interview 2010
-Its fear of losing somebody he loves which is the flip side of greed, greed in terms of the emperor... its the greed for power, absolute power over everything. With Anakin its really the power to save the one he loves, but its basically going against the fates and what is natural -George Lucas Archives
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It is likely that Anakin given this one month would be the Anakin that Lucas says is twice as powerful as Palpatine, the strongest he could possibly be, this seems likely because Anakin doubles from S6 - EPIII which is at the very most 6 months and the very least a few weeks (continuity dating is unclear in this period due to contradictions with TCW dating) so him doubling using the dark side which is a lot faster would take far less time, and he only needs to double again to be at his absolute max power, twice Palpatine, It is very likely Anakin is only a month away, and that is just a mental self mastery progression to immerse in his power etc.
-George Lucas Vanity Fair wrote:“Anakin, as Skywalker, as a human being, was going to be extremely powerful,” he says. “But he ended up losing his arms and a leg and became partly a robot. So a lot of his ability to use the Force, a lot of his powers, are curbed at this point, because, as a living form, there’s not that much of him left. So his ability to be twice as good as the Emperor disappeared
(6 Months - Few Weeks Timeframe)
-Revenge of the Sith wrote:My powers have doubled since the last time we met Count
-Revenge of the Sith Script wrote: wrote:ANAKIN: Is Obi-Wan going to protect you? He can't ... he can't help you. He's not strong enough. PADME: Anakin, all I want is your love.
ANAKIN: Love won't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can do that. PADME: At what cost? You are a good person. Don't do this.
ANAKIN: I won't lose you the way I lost my mother! I've become more powerful than any Jedi has ever dreamed of and I've done it for you. To protect you.
It is this same level of power (being able to create life) Lucas says is beyond the Sith, making them a 'Super-Sith" Anakin is at the level of the Super Sith concept. And then growing from there. and he is happy with that level of power, all his worries have gone away he can now save her, he is powerful enough, so all that dread about not being strong enough is now no longer an issue, he knows he is he is finally satisfied here.
-George Lucas Rolling Stones 2005 wrote:Now, there’s a hint in the movie that there was a Sith lord who had the power to create life. But it’s left unsaid: Is Anakin a product of a super-Sith who influenced the midichlorians to create him
-Lucas discusses the tone with him "This is Anakin's greatest moment; he's got all these new powers- everything is fine" -Making of Revenge of the Sith: George Lucas
Making of Revenge of the Sith wrote:George explains to Hayden that Anakin doesn't need to be angry when he first greets Padme -- that, in fact, he should be happy. "Everything is great for Anakin," Lucas explains, also asking Christensen to sound more like the Emperor: confident and self-assured. Continuing that thought, Lucas comes up with the idea that Christensen should leave his back turned toward McGregor: Anakin is so confident in his new powers that he doesn't need to face his former Master
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Anakin has a measure of Sidious' power
He could feel his power growing, indeed. He had the measure of his “Master” already; not long after Palpatine shared the secret of Darth Plagueis’s discovery, their relationship would undergo a sudden… transformation.
-Revenge of the Sith Novelization
And knows he is more powerful, even threatening Sidious
-Revenge of the Sith wrote:I am more powerful than the chancellor, I can overthrow him, and together you and I can rule the galaxy
-Revenge of the Sith wrote:The image tilted its head, its smile twisting without transition to a scowl.
"Lord Vader-I sense a disturbance in the Force. You may be in danger."
He glanced at the mirror flash outside; he knew that ship. In danger of being
kissed to death, perhaps . . . "How should I be in danger, Master?"
"I cannot say. But the danger is real; be mindful." Be mindful, be mindful,
he thought with a mental sneer. Is that the best you can do? I could get that
much from Obi-Wan . . . "I will, my Master. Thank you." The image faded.
He got to his feet, and now the sneer was on his lips and in his eyes. "You're
the one who should be mindful, my 'Master.' I am a disturbance in the
Force."
Meaning Anakin has now achieved the power and control previously sought earlier, when Sidious spoke as the pure unrestrained Dark Side
-Relaunched Fact File 106 wrote:
-Star Wars Insider wrote:
-“From the Jedi point of view!” Anakin retorted. “From my point of view, the Jedi are evil.” The words stabbed at Obi-Wan, even though he knew that Anakin was speaking out of his own pain. He felt the dark side grow stronger, feeding on his despair
-Revenge of the Sith Junior Novel
Anakin can completely and utterly fuck up the universe in a few days, Lucas was very specific about this
-Pablo Hidalgo Twitter wrote:
If Vader was not crippled on the operating table his fury would have destroyed worlds
And you rage and scream and reach through the Force to crush the shadow who
has destroyed you, but you are so far less now than what you were, you are more
than half machine, you are like a painter gone blind, a composer gone deaf, you
can remember where the power was but the power you can touch is only a
memory, and so with all your world-destroying fury it is only droids around you
that implode, and equipment, and the table on which you were strapped shatters,
and in the end, you cannot touch the shadow.
-Revenge of the Sith
- Vaelias
SUPREMACY
August 8th 2023, 9:03 pm
SITH SUPREMACY
Keep in mind what we mentioned about Anakin and Palpatine's force bond, They share in power but Vader has an infinitely better vessel through which to channel such power, making him far more deadly than his Master, being able to pull all the force energy through his body to flow to the surface, which is why he can kill the Emperor, irrespective of any confliction or mental hindrance and gets his numerous Dark Sider supremacy quotes, all of Palpatine's (which I won't include here) can be applied to Anakin also due to this. Anakin is the strongest Sith because he is the corrupted Balance Power, the scourge of the galaxy.
“You have to be either Mace or Yoda to compete with the Emperor," Lucas says. "If Anakin hadn't got all beat up, he could've beat the Emperor." -George Lucas - Making of Revenge of the Sith
(Note: This quote takes place during the duel, this isn't referencing some future Anakin, rather If he wanted to at the time he could have, but he was fighting Obi-Wan and got beaten up, now he cant)
-I am more powerful than the chancellor, I can overthrow him -Revenge of the Sith
-Revenge of the Sith DS Game wrote:
-Horrified by this, Padmé tried one last time. Wouldn’t Anakin come away with her, leave everything else and help her raise their child? Vader was resolute. They didn’t have to run. With his new power, he could overthrow the Chancellor. He and Padmé drew back. Everyone Obi-Wan had said was true -Relaunched Fact File 19
--Ask the Lucasfilm Jedi Council | Steve Sansweet wrote:The history of the Sith Lords is a long and fearsome one, running the gamut from nameless dark apparitions to the most fearsome Dark Lord of the Sith, Darth Vader, the one-time Anakin Skywalker, under whose reign of terror entire civilizations were exterminated and the Jedi Knights nearly wiped out
-As the Clone Wars rage on, Anakin Skywalker becomes seduced by the dark side and betrays his fellow Jedi and all that he once held dear. Obi-Wan Kenobi must now battle his former Padawan, who has become the Jedi’s most formidable threat. -Episode III DVD Collection: Jedi Knights Action Figure
-As the Clone Wars rage across the galaxy, young Jedi hero Anakin Skywalker falls to the dark side of the Force and becomes the most powerful enemy ever faced by the Jedi. -Hasbro Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith
-Palpatine elevated himself to the position of Emperor, and dispatched Vader as his ultimate enforcer. With his unparalleled Force abilities, Vader swept through the Jedi Temple. -Databank: Darth Vader
-He knows he's unbeatable. He's far more dangerous than anybody in the universe
-Revenge of the Sith Prima Guide
--Star Wars Villains Collectors DVD, Narrated by Anthony Daniels wrote:The man who was Anakin Skywalker will be extinguished, and in his place will rise the most powerful and evil Sith Lord the galaxy has ever seen.”
-Official Star Wars Magazine UK 3.59 (2005) wrote:
-Experience the evolution of the greatest villain the galaxy has ever known! These figures capture the fall of Anakin Skywalker and the rise of Darth Vader! Anakin is a young Jedi who fights for all that is good. He emerges as a hero of the Clone Wars but is lured to the dark side of the force. He joins the evil Sith and becomes the menacing Darth Vader. From hero to villain, his power and violence change the destiny of the galaxy -Star Wars Evolutions
-Based on Obi-Wan’s account of what had occurred on Mustafar, Anakin’s survival didn’t seem possible. But perhaps Obi-Wan had underestimated Anakin. Perhaps Anakin’s peerless strength in the Force had allowed him to survive -Rise of Darth Vader
---Revenge of the Sith Ultimate Villain Collectable wrote:
--Anakin Skywalker Master Replica Lightsaber wrote:
-Anakin was renamed Darth Vader. The Sith conspiracy, which had been festering in the shadows of the Republic for a thousand years, sprang into action. Palpatine elevated himself to the position of Emperor, and dispatched Vader as his ultimate enforcer. With his unparalleled Force abilities, Vader swept through the Jedi Temple.
-Darth Vader Databank
--Revenge of the Sith Ultimate Villain Collectable wrote:
His identity was exposed during his quest for the ultimate Sith apprentice. Having closely monitored Anakin Skywalker for years, Sidious felt he was the ideal Sith to make true his vision of new society built upon Sith principals. As Palpatine, he befriended Skywalker, becoming a close friend and a fatherly authority to a youthful warrior often confused by the seemingly boundless power and abilities he had at his disposal. -Darth Sidious Databank
-It was set up as a test for Anakin because if he could kill Dooku then he would make the perfect apprentice for Palpatine who’d been sort of training him, setting him up, and befriending him over the years. -George Lucas
-The child could have been the creation of sinister Sith manipulations, as the Dark Lords Darth Plagueis and Darth Sidious conspired to bring about the perfect apprentice by coaxing life from lifelessness. -Darth Vader Databank
-For years, he envisioned Anakin as his ultimate apprentice, but he was patient enough to employ Intermediary apprentices while Anakin was being groomed to become Darth Vader -Star Wars Chronicles The Prequels
-Anakin Skywalker's transformation into the ultimate Dark Lord of the Sith is chronicled in Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (PlayStation 2 and Xbox, 2005) Feel the rage boiling inside the young, conflicted hero as tou annihilate Jedi and slaughter the unsuspecting Padawans in the Jedi Temple -Insider 88
-Anakin became a powerful Jedi, but was later seduced seduced by the Emperor and the dark side of the Force to become the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy had ever known -Star Wars Saga Calendar 2009
-A young Jedi named Anakin Skywalker was seduced by the dark side of the Force... and became the most evil villain of all time, the scourge of the galaxy
-Hasbro Revenge of the Sith Press Kit
-Darth Vader will prove to be the most deadly character in the film. Pablo Hidalgo, Just The Facts - Episode III, TheForce.net
(Prior to freeing himself vs Dooku, already > Palpatine)
-“Still, though, Dooku had some reservations. This had all come about too quickly; had Sidious thought through all the implications of this operation? “But I must ask, my Master: is Skywalker truly the man we want?” “He is powerful. Potentially more powerful than even myself.” -Revenge of the Sith Novel
(The game protagonist beats Palpatine who then laughs at the idea that the protag could then beat Vader)
--Star Wars SAGA Edition Lightsaber Battle Game wrote:
-“You have done well, my new apprentice. Do you feel your power growing?” “Yes, my Master,” Anakin said, and Obi-Wan shuddered. “Lord Vader, your skills are unmatched by any Sith before you,” the cloaked figure said. “Now go, and bring peace to the Empire.” -Revenge of the Sith Junior Novelisation
-Star Wars Topps wrote:
Anakin represents all that is bad and evil
Star Wars: Official Collectors’ Movie Souvenir Edition wrote:
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-Revenge of the Sith Comic wrote:
Anakin feeds on ambitions and temptations that surround him
Official Star Wars Comic Magazine 13 wrote:
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Star Wars Topps wrote:
Anakin is more powerful than Any Jedi and NOTHING CAN equal his power NOW or EVER, Nothing extending past individuals, literally nothing even can equal his power ever.
-Revenge of the Sith DS Game wrote:
Revenge of the Sith DS Game wrote:
Anakin is not somebody who just so happens to get a few supremacy quotes, aside from most of his coming from the highest sources there is also a reason for him being touted as the ultimate most powerful Sith, and that is because Anakin as a Sith is that balance power corrupted and made stronger with the dark side, Anakin is no ordinary Sith he is essentially a Dark God when he embraces it, the Dark Side Father.
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That is a Total of 32 Sith Supremacy Quotes (More will be added If I find any...)
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JEDI SUPREMACY
From 2002-2014, Attack of the Clones Anakin gets most powerful Jedi quotes for "all time" "that the galaxy has ever known" which spans both future and past from an out of universe standpoint, meaning even before his mega growth we outlined he is still greater than anybody else ever from a power perspective
-Star Wars Official YouTube Channel wrote:
-Christensen will be on stage for interviews at Celebration II, and to answer questions from the audience. Hear what it's like to learn to use a lightsaber, to work in a Star Wars film, and to portray the greatest Jedi of all time, Anakin Skywalker. Hayden Christensen at Celebration II! - Star Wars.com
Josh Cowling, age 9, gives us a visual guide to the most dangerous Jedi the galaxy has ever known! -Star Wars Comic UK Vol #4.26 Galactic Gallery (2007)
(This depicts AOTC Anakin)
-Star Wars Comic UK Vol #4.26 Galactic Gallery (2007)^ wrote:
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--Clone Wars Encyclopedia wrote:
-I thought it was a great idea George had to show Anakin get mortally injured. You know here’s this guy who’s seemingly invulnerable, can win any battle, and he really gets hurt bad here. -Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 1: Jedi Crash Featurette
--The Clone Wars Encyclopedia wrote:
-Clone Wars Comic Magazine 6.17 wrote:
-Clearly Anakin was as strong in the Force as any Jedi who had ever sat on the Council. But as Obi-Wan had told him time and again, the essence of being a Jedi didn't hinge on attaining mastery of the Force, but on attaining mastery over oneself.
- Labyrinth of Evil
Starwars.com Store: Anakin Skywalker wrote:
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-The mightiest of the Jedi is Anakin Skywalker, rumored to be the Chosen One destined to bring balance to the Force -Star Wars: The Clone Wars Episode Guide
-Darth Sidious adheres to a tradition of secrecy imposed by the Sith a thousand years before, working his evil schemes through intermediaries and dupes while remaining hidden in the shadows. His organization includes politicians and anarchists, crime lords and corrupt law enforcement, schemers and dreamers, the wealthy and the impoverished-and, as the war draws to a close, the most powerful Jedi Knight alive: Anakin Skywalker -Star Wars: The Clone Wars Campaign Guide
-Deep and layered are the schemes of the Dark Lord Sidious, Sith Master and architect of the fall of the Republic. Perceiving in young Anakin Skywalker a strength as yet unseen among even the greatest of the Jedi, the Sith Lord engineers elements into his plans, rich in contingencies, that might either turn the troubled Jedi to his own purpose, or else destroy him altogether -Star Wars: Sideshow Collectibles - Asajj Ventress
-Thus, Darth Vader becomes a ‘fallen angel’ figure. From being the most powerful Jedi, a fearless hero of the Republic, Anakin falls to the lowest possible point because of his desire for power and security -Star Wars: The Official Figurine Collection #12
-Anakin Skywalker was the most powerful Jedi the galaxy had ever known . . . Anakin was also peerless in combat, invincible against any opponent -Star Wars: The Official Figurine Collection #8
-Once the most powerful Knight ever known to the Jedi Order, he is now a disciple of the dark side, a lord of the dreaded Sith, and the avenging right hand of the galaxy’s ruthless new Emperor -Rise of Darth Vader Publishers Summary
-Making of Revenge of the Sith wrote:”Gillard also reports that the duel will explain how Obi-Wan is able to defeat his protege, even though Anakin has been established as the most powerful Jedi who ever lived. "Obi-Wan taught Anakin and Anakin has gone past him," he notes. "But when you get to that duel, it's emotional. That's where the mistake will be made. And if you know the characters, you know Obi-Wan isn't going to get emotional and he doesn't make mistakes."
-This makes Anakin, in effect, a Jedi Master, a rank that Anakin, with his unprecedented power in the Force, feels has been long overdue -Miniatures: Ultimate Missions - Revenge of the Sith
-"Haden has written a story that goes to the emotional core of everything that happens in Episode III. Obi-Wan must confront every doubt, every misgiving about his time with Anakin. Has he failed his Padawan? Has he missed opportunities? Is he even worthy to have been the mentor to the galaxy's most powerful Jedi?" -Star Wars Insider 79 - Clone Wars Villains Face Their Reckoning
-Who's better with a lightsaber - Anakin or Obi-Wan (Ewan McGregor)? "Anakin's the most powerful Jedi around" says Justin Lambtos, who nodded with Hayden. But "Obi-Wan is fast and never makes a mistake" -Justin Lambros | Disney Adventures: Super Comics Special May 2005
Revenge of the Sith wrote:No trick of the Force would spring Kenobi and Skywalker out of this one. It was a shame he didn't have a spy probe handy to leave on the bridge; he would have enjoyed watching the Republic's greatest heroes burn.
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-Revenge of the Sith Movie Storybook wrote:
-"You are on this Council, but we do not grant you the rank of Master." "What? How can you do this? This is outrageous! It's unfair! I'm more powerful than any of you. How can you be on the Council and not be a Master?" It was a boy's expression of anger, but it was true. And, as history repeated itself because it had no other choice, Jacen was more powerful than any of them except Luke. And he was growing closer to Luke's strength by the day -Star Wars: Legacy of the Force - Bloodlines
-Even after all these months, she couldn't make herself entirely believe that actual Jedi blood ran in her veins-not only Jedi blood, but the blood of arguably the most powerful Jedi in history -Star Wars: Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor
-And even if the prophecy has been misread. Anakin is the one Jedi we can best hope would survive an encounter with a Sith Lord Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith Adult Novelization
Anakin has the power of any ten Masters.
-Revenge of the Sith wrote:I have the power of any five Masters. Any ten. You know it, and so do they
-We won't try, Anakin. We will do. After all, they are only Senators. Most of them couldn't hide what they're thinking from a brain-damaged blindworm, let alone the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy -Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith Adult Novelization
-Skywalker is arguably the most powerful Jedi alive, and he is still getting stronger -Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith Adult Novelization
-It will be," he said slowly, meditatively, as though he spoke only to himself, "an embarrassment to be captured by him." The voice that answered him was so familiar that sometimes his very thoughts spoke in it, instead of in his own. "An embarrassment you can survive, Lord Tyranus. After all, he is the greatest Jedi alive, is he not? And have we not ensured that all the galaxy shares this opinion -Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith Adult Novelization
This is Anakin Skywalker: The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace. He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it. -Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith Adult Novelization
Note this is from the perspective of the Whills so spans all time
-This story happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. It is already over. Nothing can be done to change it. It is a story of love and loss, brotherhood and betrayal, courage and sacrifice and the death of dreams. It is a story of the blurred line between our best and our worst. It is the story of the end of an age. A strange thing about stories-Though this all happened so long ago and so far away that words cannot describe the time or the distance, it is also happening right now. Right here. It is happening as you read these words. This is how twenty-five millennia come to a close. Corruption and treachery have crushed a thousand years of peace. This is not just the end of a republic; night is falling on civilization itself. This is the twilight of the Jedi. The end starts now. -Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith Adult Novelization
(Keep in mind Filoni is taking into account all versions of Luke Skywalker shown in canon here, I know its Disney Canon but Filoni speaks for Lucas and this goes to show Luke is not ever meant to be stronger than Anakin even post ROTJ, Anakin is the Chosen One, Luke is just his catalyst, this is a firm Lucas point)DAVE FILONI: We're telling the story of this character who's been trained by the greatest Jedi of all time in Anakin Skywalker. -Journey To Ahsoka | Disney+
-The Clone Wars Character Encyclopedia - Join the Battle wrote:
-Insider 79 wrote:
-“After years of careful planning, misdirection, and manipulation, Dooku finally stands ready to bring his master's vision for an ordered galaxy and an end to the Clone Wars to fruition. Staging the kidnapping of the Supreme Chancellor, Dooku now moves to quickly dispatch the only remaining Jedi who can still oppose him.”
- Star Wars Force Collection: Dooku
-Revenge of the Sith: The Goods wrote:Well...maybe not. After all, Anakin is the most powerful Jedi alive, something you'll experience yourself when the game presents exciting one-on-one duels between the future Darth Vader and the likes of Gillard's character, Count Dooku and, yes, even Obi-Wan Kenobi. Gillard's involvement was especially helpful in making these duels some of the most exhilarating examples of swordplay ever depicted in a videogame. "Nick Gillard's time with the animators helped us know both philosophically and physically how it feels to be in a lightsaber fight," explains Lambros.
-Clone Wars Comic Magazine UK 6.18 wrote:
Anakin is the Ultimate Master in the Ultimate Master and Apprentice Duo
-Clone Wars Comic Magazine 6.28 wrote:
-The Complete Encyclopedia wrote:The Confederacy fleet hammered Coruscant's defenses and absconded with the captive Chancellor. Predictably, the Jedi Order's finest heroes - Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi - were dispatched to rescue Palpatine.
Anakin is the most gifted fighter of known time
- Hayden Christensen DVD Commentary Revenge of the Sith* wrote:Obi-Wan comes out with the better hand which is a little contrary to the notion that Anakin is the Chosen One and the most gifted fighter of known time, but I think that's derivative of his emotions and not being able to focus them and control them which is just, you know, the route of Anakin's inabilities
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-The Clone Wars Visual Guide wrote:
-The Jedi Knights have defended the Galactic Republic for thousands of years. but now the Jedi are at war with the Separatists and their droid armies, led by the evil Sith Lord Count Dooku. The greatest hero of the Jedi Knights is Anakin Skywalker, who grew up on Tatooine as a slave and learned the ways of the Force.
-Heroes and Villains Flipbook
There is a Total of 39 Anakin Supremacy Quotes (More will be added If I find any...)
So all in all that is a Grand Total of 71 Anakin Supremacy Quotes currently collected in this blog and likely more to come...
- Vaelias
MUSTAFAR DUEL
August 8th 2023, 9:04 pm
MUSTAFAR DUEL
People often bring up the duel of Mustafar as reason to believe Anakin is not that strong and is only a peer of Obi-Wan, this could not be further from the truth, It is important to consider the context on Mustafar to understand how exactly Obi-Wan was able to come out on top, despite Anakin being the most powerful character in Star Wars, indeed this is even a question people over at LFL pondered over and have addressed several times. Firstly remember how we talked above in the Unlocking the Power section about how when Anakin free's himself from restrictions, from the fog, he can finally achieve a state of clarity to let all that is within out? Well on Mustafar, the fog returns, stronger than ever and although he may be more powerful in a raw sense on Mustafar, his ability to bring that power to bare and pull it through him is severely hindered because of his mental state, on top of other factors largely favoring Obi-Wan in their duel, which I will touch on. This iteration of Anakin is what is referred to as MFV, Mustfar Vader or as I prefer, Mentally Fucked Vader.
ANAKIN AND OBI-WAN'S FORCE BOND
Anakin and Obi-Wan share a bond built over the years, similar but different to the one I talked about above with Palpatine, they have a bond so deep and know each other's each and every move so well that they mold into a virtually unstoppable single warrior, they are one in battle, It is because of this, knowing his second half through and through, bonded through the Force with him that he is able to use that to his advantage, because of this Obi-Wan is the ONLY person who could beat Anakin.
-Making of Revenge of the Sith wrote:”Gillard also reports that the duel will explain how Obi-Wan is able to defeat his protégé, even though Anakin has been established as the most powerful Jedi who ever lived. "Obi-Wan taught Anakin and Anakin has gone past him," he notes. "But when you get to that duel, it's emotional. That's where the mistake will be made. And if you know the characters, you know Obi-Wan isn't going to get emotional and he doesn't make mistakes."
--Order of the Jedi: General Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Their trust in one another and complementary styles have helped mold them into a virtually unstoppable team in battle, equally dangerous to Separatist enemies whether flying wingtip to wingtip in space or fighting back to back with lightsabers on the ground. Even in the company of famous Jedi warriors such as the lethally efficient Agen Kolar, starfighter-ace Saesee Tiin or swift Kit Fisto, Obi-Wan and Anakin have gained flashy reputations as the Republic's champions in the Outer Rim Sieges.
-Revenge of the Sith wrote:Blade-to-blade, they were identical. After thousands of hours in lightsaber
sparring, they knew each other better than brothers, more intimately than lovers;
they were complementary halves of a single warrior.
-Clone Wars: Wild Space wrote:It was not the Jedi way to laud one Jedi Knight above another, call one apprentice greater than the next, but in the case of Obi-Wan and Anakin, accepted practice simply did not apply. Anakin Skywalker was proclaimed a child of prophecy. Obi-Wan was his Master, his reputation formidable. Together they appeared invincible.
"You also see him grow into, by RotS, the only person who could have stood up against Anakin. In my opinion and I don't think there would be many people who would argue with me, at least not people whose opinion I respect... Obi-Wan is the only person who could have beaten Anakin. That was it. And you see him by the end.. you can see where the Alec Guinness version of the character is coming from."
-Revenge of the Sith Novel w/ Matthew Stover- TWL #420
MENTAL CONFLICTION
So we have Obi-Wan benefitting from the fact that he is fundamentally attuned to his former apprentice in a deep force bond, so much so they are described as two haves of a singularity, but on top of that we have the fact that Anakin is severally mentally hindered, Anakin's confliction first comes back on the landing platform, where he has a moment to think about all that he has done and it tears him up from the inside
--George Lucas DVD Commentary Revenge of the Sith wrote:Anakin on the balcony contemplating what he has done, this is the first time he actually has a chance to think about what it is that has happened, by himself, and, the tear here says that he knows what he's done, but he has now committed himself to a path, that he may not agree with but he is going to go on anyway, its the one moment that says he is self aware, that he's rationalising all his behaviour, he's doing terrible things, but in the end he really knows the truth, he knows that he's evil now and there's nothing he can do about it, its really the moment where I think the Pathos of getting stuck in that suit is real, if he had to do it over he probably wouldn't do it, but he cant stop it now, he kinda can see, the rest of the movie, not in terms of him being defeated by Obi-Wan, but in terms of him going down a path that Padme cant follow, and the consequence that's gonna have, the fact that he's gonna have to battle, he knows that that point this is all gonna end up in a fight between him and Obi-Wan, he knows that Padme may not buy into this new reality, and eventually she is gonna sort of find out the truth. He made a pact with the Devil and now he's become the Devil, but its not a joyful thing for him, its a sad thing
He cannot focus or control these emotions
-- Hayden Christensen DVD Commentary Revenge of the Sith wrote:Obi-Wan comes out with the better hand which is a little contrary to the notion that Anakin is the Chosen One and the most gifted fighter of known time, but I think that's derivative of his emotions and not being able to focus them and control them which is just, you know, the route of Anakin's inabilities
Because his dragon, fogging and fear of loss returns on Mustafar.
Revenge of the Sith Novel wrote:A fatal transformation.
Everything was proceeding according to plan.
And yet . . .
He couldn't shake a certain creeping sensation ... a kind of cold, slimy ooze
that slithered up the veins of his legs and spread clammy tendrils through
his guts . . .
Almost as though he was still afraid . . .She will die, you know, the dragon whispered.
He shook himself, scowling. Impossible. He was Darth Vader. Fear had no
power over him. He had destroyed his fear.
All things die.
Yet it was as though when he had crushed the dragon under his boot, the
dragon had sunk venomed fangs into his heel.
Now its poison chilled him to the bone.
Even stars burn out.
He shook himself again and strode toward the holocomm.
Anakin has been pushed over the edge
Star Wars: Official Collectors’ Movie Souvenir Edition wrote:
Anakin would never usually make a mistake, but his anger and arrogance causes him to accidently slip up
-Star Wars: Official Collectors’ Movie Souvenir Edition wrote:
Vader is consumed by rage
Ultimate Duels wrote:
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Anakin loses his cool
-Official Star Wars Comic Magazine 13 wrote:
Anakin is one of the better fighters yet still comes out on the short end, the fight needed to be evenly matched
-Official Star Wars Comic Magazine 13 wrote:
The scenery of Mustafar a metaphor for what is going on inside Anakin, he is also confused plagued with self doubt
-Complete Locations wrote:As Anakin's soul surrenders fully to the dark side, violent Mustafar seems to mirror his turmoil. Lefrani eclipses Mustafar's sun, just as Anakin's massacre of the Separatist Council eclipses the light of the Force within him. The violent eruptions of the lava rivers, when the repulsor fields are shutdown during his duel with Obi-Wan, seem almost driven by Anakin’s own pulsing hatred of everyone that he believes have conspired against him and thwarted his desires. Only in the deepest core of his being does he still treasure his love for Padmé.
-Evolutions wrote:
-Essential Atlas wrote:
Anakin is at a stage where he cannot control his power at all,
-George Lucas DVD Commentary Revenge of the Sith wrote:now he is assuming that she's in league with Obi-Wan, not necessarily in a love relationship or anything, but in the basis that they are both on one side of the path, going down one path and he's going down the other
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One of the problems with Sith is that they are quick to anger this scene with her, it was very important that we sort of set it up to the point where he chokes her as he does with one of the Generals in Episode IV, but at the same time he doesn't kill her or anything, he just you know causes her to faint, but you get to see that flash of anger, that he now doesn't really have that much control over
The whole point of a jedi is that you can completely control your anger and now he's at a point where he cant control it at all, and its because of his need for control and power and being very upset when he doesn't have it
Where this is the very thing Obi-Wan is perfect at, this is a contest of self mastery
Matthew Stover The Wampa's Lair Podcast wrote:"Its a... you would call it a spiritual conviction that real power comes as the result of self knowledge. It is that... when you really understand yourself you really know exactly who you are and exactly what your capabilities are... there is very little that you can not accomplish. Um and there is a... it comes from doing martial arts for 20 somewhat years um but there is a sense, of what I was trying to get to with Obi-Wan is an almost uh Zen extinction of the ego sort of thing where he is completely out of his own way there is no second thoughts or doubts or uh hesitation and that is where his power comes from... you know being completely open to the force... the force can do anything except you know... save Anakin but... but again with in saving Anakin... Obi Wans own emotions... his loyalty and devotion to this man he trained and who is the best friend he has ever had um... gets in the way. Its a Star Wars thing."
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He is overwhelmed with his emotions
-Epic Battles wrote:
And he now no longer cares about fighting properly because he knows he's unbeatable, sure this may have worked when he wasn't mentally hindered but now it just leaves him cocky and sloppy
"Anakin's style has changed completely between Episode II and Episode III. He now no longer cares. He knows he's unbeatable. He's far more dangerous than anybody in the universe."
-Revenge of the Sith Video Game Official Prima Guide
OTHER FACTORS
Obi-Wan has an advantage because he is not trying to attack Anakin at all, focusing everything on just not getting hit, purely on the defensive, they know each other deeply and Obi-Wan uses this smartly while Anakin rages in a fit.
-Star Wars: Official Collectors’ Movie Souvenir Edition wrote:
Obi-Wan is elegant where Anakin is brutal
-Star Wars: Official Collectors’ Movie Souvenir Edition wrote:
Vader is just generally bad on a slope
-Hayden and I used to walk to this restaurant at night in Bondi and and there was a big grass slope and that was the quickest way but he fell over it he fell the first time we went he's upended
himself and slided down the bank and said I'm never going that way again and
it's in in my head I thought oh he's you know and Vader is bad on the slope it
-Nick Gillard Star Wars Theory
Obi-Wan's experience gives him an edge over Anakin
George Lucas Revenge of the Sith DVD Commentary wrote:"the difference is that Obi-Wan is more experienced but Anakin is more powerful"
He doesnt make mistakes, but Anakin does when he is too angry and arrogant which he cannot control he is being sloppy because he is overconfident.
In the end Anakin just makes a mistake, he gets too angry and makes a mistake and Obi doesn't make mistakes
Nick Gillard DVD Commentary Revenge of the Sith
Anakin is purely just raging out and he knows what he is doing is wrong
George Lucas Revenge of the Sith DVD Commentary wrote:“So [Anakin and Obi-Wan are] both trying to do the same thing, only one is doing it out of strength and power and doing things he knows are wrong, and the other one’s doing the inevitable thing that he has to do… that he really doesn’t wanna have to do, which is to get rid of his friend.”
Matthew Stover The Wampa's Lair Podcast wrote:Rockville, Md.: There are many things in the book that suggest Anakin is a more powerful Jedi than Obi Won yet Obi Won gets the best of him at the end of the book. Did Anakin feel conflicted about fighting his mentor? Was he distracted by his wife ... or how do you explain his loss? Matthew Stover: I don't explain his loss. I'm just a reporter. If you feel the need to explain you can chalk it up to the will of the Force.
LESS POWERFUL IN THE SUIT...
Now I wont compile every single quote here that says Anakin's power is diminished in the suit because It would probably double the length of this blog lol, but here are some main points to dispel this silly notion that Anakin keeps on growing past this blog, Vader in the suit is far less powerful, he has far less Midi-Chorian's to pull Cosmic Power into the Living Force he is a shadow of his former self
I.
Keep in mind: This section Star Wars Insider is where the top Star Wars officials "provide actual answers to your Star Wars questions," making it C-Canon, arguably higher. This likely references AOTC Anakin as it predates the start of ROTS promotional material and the question itself pertains to AOTC AnakinSTAR WARS INSIDER 72 - Q&A wrote:
II.
This source runs only up until the end of 4 ABY. Anakin's "peak of his powers" is "before his brutal defeat on Mustafar," not ROTJ. Note Head-to-Head itself was written by Star Wars official Pablo Hidalgo and officially published by Lucasfilm Licensing. While a “cabal of experts” gave their “ideas” on who wins at the end of the book, that is not presented as canonically binding, and Pablo even mocked their picks and said they “determine the winner through means mysterious." That doesn’t mean the pages Pablo wrote aren’t in-continuity. also, 'Jedi Knight' could very well just refer to a 'Jedi' in general not specifically the rank of 'Knight' so it could easily mean Prime Luke, in fact it seems almost likelySTAR WARS HEAD-TO-HEAD wrote:
"An epic duel made impossible by time. The fully grown Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker crosses lightsabers with Anakin Skywalker before his brutal defeat on Mustafar. Both Skywalkers are at the peak of their powers."
III.
Kind in mind: Vader’s “ability to use the Force”—not potential ability—was “greatly diminished.” This is a general character summary stretching up to ROTJ.STAR WARS ENCYCLOPEDIA - DARTH VADER wrote:
"Such injuries greatly diminished his ability to use the Force, but Vader is still very powerful."
IV.
This quote applies to Vader "for the rest of his lifeSTAR WARS BLUEPRINTS - THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION wrote:
V.
They contrast Vader being a "shadow of the man he once was" with Luke being "young and powerful.WIZARDS - ICONS OF EPISODE VI wrote:
The Emperor saw in Luke Skywalker a better servant than his father. Luke was young and powerful, while Darth Vader had become a shadow of the man he once was. Palpatine played the two Skywalkers against each other, and in the end, Luke defeated his father
VI.
This is no different than the Canon quotes used to put Vader above Anakin. Anakin is explicitly said to be in his prime here.THE COMPLETE VADER wrote:
VII.
Lucas distinguishes between potential power--ability to become more powerful than Sidious--and power of the Force. Vader has declined in both.GEORGE LUCAS - EMPIRE STRIKES BACK DVD COMMENTARY wrote:
Now he's half-machine and half-man so he's lost a lot of the power of the Force and a lot of his ability to become more powerful than the Emperor
VIII.
Vader stays in the lowest possible point -- hell -- until he redeems himself. This contrasts with the prior position of him being the most powerful Jedi, so it's power-relevant.STAR WARS OFFICIAL FIGURINE COLLECTION #12 wrote:
Strikingly, in the story of Anakin Skywalker, the hero must fall from grace -- then later redeem himself -- in order to fulfil the prophecy. Thus, Darth Vader becomes a 'fallen angel' figure. From being the most powerful Jedi, a 'fearless hero ' of the Republic, Anakin falls to the lowest possible point because of his desire for power and security
IX.
Lucas told Blackman that Anakin is more powerful than Vader in an official board meeting that Blackman had to attend. Blackman is the head of TFU and TFU 2.GEORGE LUCAS TO HAYDEN BLACKMAN IN LUCASFILM MEETING wrote:
As I kid, I had always imagined that whatever transformed Anakin into Vader had actually made him more powerful... But when we were working on The Force Unleashed at LucasArts, George Lucas told us that after Revenge of the Sith the Emperor views Vader as "broken" and believes that Anakin's physical transformation into Vader has left him weaker and less useful. The idea that Vader is somehow less powerful than Anakin really depressed me
X.
George Lucas, A New Hope Alternative Commentary with Archival Interviews from Cast and Crew wrote:
Vader would’ve become infinitely more powerful if he hadn’t ended up his suit, if he hadn’t become half man, half machine which diminishes his powers considerably
XI.
Jedi vs Sith wrote:
Palpatine agrees IU
XII.
Keep in mind the George Lucas line editing hereRoTS Novel 417 wrote:
It is in this blazing moment that you finally understand the trap of the dark side, the final cruelty of the Sith—Because now your self is all you will ever have. And your rage and scream will reach through the Force to crush the shadow who has destroyed you, but you are so far less now than what you were, you are more than half machine, you are like a painter gone blind, a composer gone deaf, you can remember where the power was but the power you can touch is only a memory, and so with all your world-destroying fury it is only droids around you that implode, and equipment, and the table on which you were strapped shatters, and in the end, you cannot touch the shadow. In the end, you do not even want to.
XIII.
Star Wars Chronicles: The Prequels wrote:
XIV.
George Lucas ANH DVD Commentary wrote:
Vader as his assistant even though he is very powerful and strong, is one of the underlings of the emperor and therefore is pretty much on an equal scale with the highest level of underlings
...
In this particular movie he is a rather pathetic character, he's a shadow of his former self, and he's getting pushed around by bureaucrats, you know its not all together what people originally thought Vader was, which was this all powerful king of the universe
XV.
starwars.com (2011) wrote:
XVI.
-Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader wrote:
Where Darth Sidious had gained everything, Vader had lost everything, including—for the moment, at least—the self-confidence and unbridled skill he had demonstrated as Anakin Skywalker.
XVII.
Empire At War Forces of Corruption Prime Guide wrote:
“Obi-Wan trained Anakin in the ways of the Force, but Skywalker was impatient with the Jedi’s painstaking methods. Skywalker let himself be embraced by the rapturous power of the dark side into the Sith Lord Darth Vader. Kenobi tried to draw him back to the light side, but they engaged in a duel on Mustafar that ultimately ended with Skywalker’s body being consumed by flame. The shell of a man who emerged was sustained by specially built armor and a breathing apparatus.”
XVIII
-Pablo Hidalgo Twitter wrote:
From Anakin to Vader we take a look at Anakin's mental transformation and the affect that has on the Galaxy
A little add on about some of the repercussions all these mechanics have on Vader after he gets put in the suit, although a lot weaker, he remains unstoppable
- Vaelias
CONCLUSION
August 8th 2023, 9:04 pm
CONCLUSION
To briefly conclude this blog, Anakin Skywalker's unique conception makes him the center of all power of the universe, all the threads of life flow through him as he sits in the center of the Holy Trinity in the place of god, balancing the three categories of the force both he and Elora Danan represent the embodiment of God, of the Force, this power all exists within Anakin, Mortis exists within him, Mortis is his heart, The Father tells him to free his guilt to let it out, which Anakin later does vs Dooku on the Invisible Hand proving he is the chosen one with infinite power in his contest with the Dark Side itself embodied in Dooku, Anakin has ambitions set to be the strongest force user which he achieves mere days after he sets those ambitions out when learning from Ulic Qel Droma, this is a level beyond Anakin's imaginings after he just experienced a power far greater than Yoda, then of course he grows at an incredible rate and again later growing beyond his imaginings again. getting over 70 supremacy quotes consistently with deep reasoning behind them, Anakin is undoubtedly the most powerful character in Star Wars!!!
To briefly conclude this blog, Anakin Skywalker's unique conception makes him the center of all power of the universe, all the threads of life flow through him as he sits in the center of the Holy Trinity in the place of god, balancing the three categories of the force both he and Elora Danan represent the embodiment of God, of the Force, this power all exists within Anakin, Mortis exists within him, Mortis is his heart, The Father tells him to free his guilt to let it out, which Anakin later does vs Dooku on the Invisible Hand proving he is the chosen one with infinite power in his contest with the Dark Side itself embodied in Dooku, Anakin has ambitions set to be the strongest force user which he achieves mere days after he sets those ambitions out when learning from Ulic Qel Droma, this is a level beyond Anakin's imaginings after he just experienced a power far greater than Yoda, then of course he grows at an incredible rate and again later growing beyond his imaginings again. getting over 70 supremacy quotes consistently with deep reasoning behind them, Anakin is undoubtedly the most powerful character in Star Wars!!!
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