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Who is the most powerful PT character Bane can beat? Empty Who is the most powerful PT character Bane can beat?

February 6th 2021, 4:42 pm
Scaling seems to have made Bane trash compared to the PT. Who is the most powerful character of that era that he can beat?
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February 6th 2021, 4:51 pm
TPM Maul
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February 6th 2021, 5:02 pm
Sors Bandeam.
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February 6th 2021, 5:15 pm
@CuckedCurry wrote:TPM Maul
A bit generous
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February 6th 2021, 5:48 pm
No it’s not, TPM Maul sucks. With a nexus + a discount Dark side confusion haze he was still sub Jinn and Kenobi. Bare in mind that Jinn has been disarmed by Xanatos and Femur, nicked on the shoulder by Xanatos, struggled with 17 y/o Kenobi, struggled with a sharpshooter etc. I’ll take Bane holding off a rainstorm without a drop touching him any day tbh
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February 6th 2021, 5:55 pm
How does comparing Maul to Jinn or Kenobi relate to Maul vs Bane?
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February 6th 2021, 5:56 pm
Because Jinn and Kenobi are demonstrably worse than Bane
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February 6th 2021, 5:57 pm
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Source?
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February 6th 2021, 5:58 pm
Look yourself redneck I’m not here to spoonfeed you
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February 6th 2021, 5:58 pm
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You're the one making the outlandish claim here.
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February 6th 2021, 6:01 pm
Did Jinn not struggle with 17 y/o Kenobi? Was Jinn not on the losing end of a battle against a sharpshooter? Was Jinn not nicked on the shoulder by Xanatos? Was Jinn not disarmed by Padawans Xanatos and Femur? Did Bane not move fast enough to deflect a heavy down pour? Unless you can find a source in which either Jinn or Maul accomplishes even this mid-tier feat, it looks like you have no leg to stand on
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February 6th 2021, 6:09 pm
TPM Maul is canonically better than Bane. Bane's best TK feat was also topped by Maul when he was only 15 lmao.
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February 6th 2021, 6:13 pm
Building feats are bad indicators of tk because you get the domino effect so try again. DK quotes are so unbelievably weak sauce, not to mention that Maul is demonstrably worse in primary material, rendering your 🐓 quote obsolete
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February 6th 2021, 6:36 pm
DK quotes are so unbelievably weak sauce
Why is DK a weak "sauce"?
Did Jinn not struggle with 17 y/o Kenobi? Was Jinn not on the losing end of a battle against a sharpshooter? Was Jinn not nicked on the shoulder by Xanatos? Was Jinn not disarmed by Padawans Xanatos and Femur? Did Bane not move fast enough to deflect a heavy down pour? Unless you can find a source in which either Jinn or Maul accomplishes even this mid-tier feat, it looks like you have no leg to stand on
Did Bane not get captured by mercenaries? Was Bane not almost killed by Worror Dowmat (a Jedi that chooses not to fight)? Was Bane not almost killed by a random creature in a jungle? All Bane's rain feat does is further escalate Maul and Jinn given that they're factually better than him.
not to mention that Maul is demonstrably worse in primary material
Examples?
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February 6th 2021, 6:54 pm
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DK is weak sauce because it suffers from the same fallibility that other quotes have, like Plo Koon besting Pre-AOTC Yoda in a spar of Obi-Wan failing to move an ARC-170 on his own, or Yoda failing to move a pillar on his own, or Sidious killing Plagueis years before TPM, which is that it is contradicted by primary sources. Maul is still locked beneath 30 tuskens, locked below Siolo Ur’Manka, vastly below even mid-tiers like Pablo Jill etc. And is demonstrably below Bane

Bro, are you really gonna hit me up with the Worror shit? For one, the Orbalisks are hyper-sensitive to strong electrical discharges. Bane was not anticipating Worror would throw up a shield and therefore didn’t concentrate his lightning into a sufficiently strong burst to break through the barrier. So once again, you lose. Jinn and Kenobi do not scale from the rain feat at all bro. They’re not even above newly-knighted Soara Antana, nevermind Darth Bane
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February 6th 2021, 8:45 pm
KingKopecz wrote:
DK quotes are so unbelievably weak sauce
Why is DK a weak "sauce"?
Did Jinn not struggle with 17 y/o Kenobi? Was Jinn not on the losing end of a battle against a sharpshooter? Was Jinn not nicked on the shoulder by Xanatos? Was Jinn not disarmed by Padawans Xanatos and Femur? Did Bane not move fast enough to deflect a heavy down pour? Unless you can find a source in which either Jinn or Maul accomplishes even this mid-tier feat, it looks like you have no leg to stand on
Did Bane not get captured by mercenaries? Was Bane not almost killed by Worror Dowmat (a Jedi that chooses not to fight)? Was Bane not almost killed by a random creature in a jungle? All Bane's rain feat does is further escalate Maul and Jinn given that they're factually better than him.
not to mention that Maul is demonstrably worse in primary material
Examples?

DK is IU

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February 6th 2021, 8:55 pm
Who is the most powerful PT character Bane can beat? Maul_s13

To clear some shit up... this

Also Maul nearly defeated pre boost TPM Sheev in a duel who was so fast security cameras couldn't even see him butcher a whole room of people and is also the most powerful Sith ever and is > Kun scales enormously above Bane.




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February 6th 2021, 8:58 pm
Tpm maul is a peer of tpm sheev so bane gets fisted
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February 6th 2021, 9:33 pm
@KingofBlades wrote:Tpm maul is a peer of tpm sheev so bane gets fisted
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February 6th 2021, 10:49 pm
maul is more skilled than bane, sure, but i wouldnt say that maul is more powerful than him by any means. bane is smarter, more experienced, much more learned in the force, and has much better powers from what i remember.
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February 7th 2021, 3:32 am
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I guess I’ll take this as gospel too, seeing how it’s both IU and a secondary source 😛
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February 7th 2021, 4:02 am
Mediums
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February 7th 2021, 4:08 am
Quantify
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February 7th 2021, 6:24 am
@CuckedCurry wrote:DK is weak sauce because it suffers from the same fallibility that other quotes have, like Plo Koon besting Pre-AOTC Yoda in a spar of Obi-Wan failing to move an ARC-170 on his own, or Yoda failing to move a pillar on his own, or Sidious killing Plagueis years before TPM, which is that it is contradicted by primary sources. 
The Maul quote isn't contradicted by primary sources though so there isn't any reason why it's not valid.
Maul is still locked beneath 30 tuskens, locked below Siolo Ur’Manka, vastly below even mid-tiers like Pablo Jill etc. And is demonstrably below Bane
Prove that Bane isn't locked below those characters then.

Bro, are you really gonna hit me up with the Worror shit? For one, the Orbalisks are hyper-sensitive to strong electrical discharges. Bane was not anticipating Worror would throw up a shield and therefore didn’t concentrate his lightning into a sufficiently strong burst to break through the barrier.
Mate it's his fault that he failed to defend against his deflected lightning. I'm not sure why you're trying to defend that.
So once again, you lose. Jinn and Kenobi do not scale from the rain feat at all bro.
They do if they're ~ TPM Maul who's in turn > Bane.
They’re not even above newly-knighted Soara Antana, nevermind Darth Bane
Again, prove Bane is above Soara.
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February 7th 2021, 7:25 am
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Exact quantification is impossible(not just in this, but in anything). But given we know that its an ever present variable inflating/deflating every sw product by some degree, then we can reasonably assert its the cause behind any apparent discrepancies in feats. Yoda said what he said in that scan you provided, nothing we can do to change that. Now how do we take that information considering Yoda has performed far greater TK feats in other mediums? Well, the first possibility is to do what you seem to be doing, dismissing the anti feat out of absurdity. Theres nothing inherently wrong with this approach, but personally I dont like dismissing evidence. I'll rationalize if its plausibly possible. So what can explain why Yoda said what he said? Well, theres the traditional options like fatigue and what not. But given you bothered to use this scan at all, im going to assume no such context exists. But what does exist in your example(and all examples) is the impact of mediums. And I see no reason why mediums cant explain the discrepancy we see before us. It works and is LFL backed. Dont think we have to force a contradiction here like youre trying to
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