exar kun vs tpm sidious

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TPM Sidious > SWtOR Vitiate >>>> Novel Vitiate >>> Novel Revan > KotOR Revan > SF Malak >>> Kun

Exar Kun wins, he's objectively stronger than someone objectively far more powerful than this Sidious or any Sidious until at least ROTJ.

Kun's also just got better feats.

JA Kun wins only

JA Kun is factually weaker than his prime in TOTJ.

Prime Kun one shots, Base Kun loses in a decent fight

this thread is exar kun not ja kun

Base Kun and Prime Kun are the same thing.

LadyKulvax wrote:JA Kun is factually weaker than his prime in TOTJ.

We have already been over this lol, all those statements are referring to JA Kun who has just gotten out of his slumber, not when he had grown far more powerful, I take it as a concession seeing as you left it to decaf and he didn't reply lol

LadyKulvax wrote:Base Kun and Prime Kun are the same thing.

Nope base Kun is sub Malak, Prime Kun is post ritual pre WoL Kun who is with Valkorion and DE Sheev

i dont want this base prime kun bs i want exar kun

lelandp23 wrote:i dont want this base prime kun bs i want exar kun

Yea we all do. Kun loses.

lelandp23 wrote:this thread is exar kun not ja kun

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA JA Kun is still Exar Kun LOL his name isnt JA!, JA is a Novel, why dont u learn at least a bit about star wars before making threads on it lol

Vaelias wrote:

lelandp23 wrote:this thread is exar kun not ja kun

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA JA Kun is still Exar Kun LOL his name isnt JA!, JA is a Novel, why dont u learn at least a bit about star wars before making threads on it lol

my nigga your trying too hard you still havent given that addy yet

lelandp23 wrote:

Vaelias wrote:

lelandp23 wrote:this thread is exar kun not ja kun

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA JA Kun is still Exar Kun LOL his name isnt JA!, JA is a Novel, why dont u learn at least a bit about star wars before making threads on it lol

my nigga your trying too hard you still havent given that addy yet

LOL you are pathetic tbh

'Base Kun' doesn't exist. You've invented him. Furthermore, Exar Kun isn't sub Malak. This was contradicted outright by the SWTOR:E in a statement putting the Dark Lords who have Mausoleums on Korriban on the pedastal of history's most powerful Dark Lords. Now given for some reason you've provided no justification for, you don't recognise the numerous SWTOR media statements that treat Exar Kun as a present day Sith, not merely a historical one. I'll give you this, instead. Given the Sith Academy there was built by Jorak Uln, a Kun disciple, during the Great Sith War, in Exar Kun's name. Then obviously Kun's involved as it is a place of reverence for him.

[quote="Vaelias"]

lelandp23 wrote:

Vaelias wrote:

lelandp23 wrote:this thread is exar kun not ja kun

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA JA Kun is still Exar Kun LOL his name isnt JA!, JA is a Novel, why dont u learn at least a bit about star wars before making threads on it lol

my nigga your trying too hard you still havent given that addy yet

LOL you are pathetic tbh [/quote my nigga i know jedi academy is a novel series and that ja kun is a weak ass spirit who needs my man kyp to even fight but i dont got to prove anything to your dumbass

lelandp23 wrote:

Vaelias wrote:

lelandp23 wrote:

Vaelias wrote:

lelandp23 wrote:this thread is exar kun not ja kun

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA JA Kun is still Exar Kun LOL his name isnt JA!, JA is a Novel, why dont u learn at least a bit about star wars before making threads on it lol

my nigga your trying too hard you still havent given that addy yet

LOL you are pathetic tbh [/quote my nigga i know jedi academy is a novel series and that ja kun is a weak ass spirit who needs my man kyp to even fight but i dont got to prove anything to your dumbass

lelandp23 wrote:this thread is exar kun not ja kun

Why did you say this then, looks like you are the dumbass tbh

man really thought "Ja Kun" was a character

LadyKulvax wrote:'Base Kun' doesn't exist. You've invented him. Furthermore, Exar Kun isn't sub Malak. This was contradicted outright by the SWTOR:E in a statement putting the Dark Lords who have Mausoleums on Korriban on the pedastal of history's most powerful Dark Lords. Now given for some reason you've provided no justification for, you don't recognise the numerous SWTOR media statements that treat Exar Kun as a present day Sith, not merely a historical one. I'll give you this, instead. Given the Sith Academy there was built by Jorak Uln, a Kun disciple, during the Great Sith War, in Exar Kun's name. Then obviously Kun's involved as it is a place of reverence for him.

that quote is demonstrably false, or it would imply Pall > Nadd or Nihilus or Malak, i think the Chee endorsed Malak quote takes precedence tbh, and Base Kun is referring to Kun before his ritual

Freedon Nadd also has a place there, he's one of the Sith Council in the weird throneroom. You only ever see it in TOTJ and DE but it's there. Nihilus is already stated many times over to be nearing the power of the ancients. Given Pall may yet be stronger than Adas, Tulak Hord and Soa, I'm not seeing the issue. SE is apparently establishing the Star Forge as the source of power for the Exiles. So Malak's scaling there doesn't exist and doesn't contradict SWTOR:E. Leland Chee doesn't have any magic wand, he gets to tell us what is or isn't canon, but he rarely if ever actually decides himself. So his involvement, doesn't really matter. He's also not acting in his Holocron Keeper capacity, but as an editor. And given SWTOR:E is 2011 and all the quotes you say contradict it, do in fact predate it. Then welcome to the world of BiOWare Star Wars where they totally gutted entire source material such as KOTOR 2 with retcons. We learn to adapt.

LadyKulvax wrote:Freedon Nadd also has a place there, he's one of the Sith Council in the weird throneroom. You only ever see it in TOTJ and DE but it's there. Nihilus is already stated many times over to be nearing the power of the ancients. Given Pall may yet be stronger than Adas, Tulak Hord and Soa, I'm not seeing the issue. SE is apparently establishing the Star Forge as the source of power for the Exiles. So Malak's scaling there doesn't exist and doesn't contradict SWTOR:E. Leland Chee doesn't have any magic wand, he gets to tell us what is or isn't canon, but he rarely if ever actually decides himself. So his involvement, doesn't really matter. He's also not acting in his Holocron Keeper capacity, but as an editor. And given SWTOR:E is 2011 and all the quotes you say contradict it, do in fact predate it. Then welcome to the world of BiOWare Star Wars where they totally gutted entire source material such as KOTOR 2 with retcons. We learn to adapt.

i agree KOTOR kinda fucked shit up lol, but yeh based on the SF in SE well just have to wait and see

@KingKopecz

TPM Sidious > SWtOR Vitiate

We discussed this already: Sheev has no supremacy quotes which aren't from either (A) IU characters (with limited knowledge and biases) or (B) from DK readers - with the latter being a source that doesn't acknowledge Vitiate's existence.

Note: I'll provide a reply to the Muur vs Sidious stuff sometime later in the week (I want to provide greater detail on the Celeste-Muur stuff, and the accuracy of Vader's POV, so a reply could take some time to write).

I_Like_Chee wrote:@KingKopecz

TPM Sidious > SWtOR Vitiate

We discussed this already: Sheev has no supremacy quotes which aren't from either (A) IU characters (with limited knowledge and biases) or (B) from DK readers - with the latter being a source that doesn't acknowledge Vitiate's existence.

Note: I'll provide a reply to the Muur vs Sidious stuff sometime later in the week (I want to provide greater detail on the Celeste-Muur stuff, and the accuracy of Vader's POV, so a reply could take some time to write).

Is this one from DK readers?

@KingKopecz Yes.

Regardless of the Sheev quotes Maul has his TPM Supremacy quote and Sidious demonstrates huge superiority to Maul, Sheevs quotes would only put him above Kun not vitiate anyway cos they r from 1999