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- Vaelias
Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 19th 2020, 1:39 am
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Exar Kun
3. Yoda
4. Darth Sidious
5. Darth Vader
6. Mace Windu
7. Anakin Skywalker
8. Count Dooku
9. General Grievous
10. Darth Bane
My list..
what y’all think
2. Exar Kun
3. Yoda
4. Darth Sidious
5. Darth Vader
6. Mace Windu
7. Anakin Skywalker
8. Count Dooku
9. General Grievous
10. Darth Bane
My list..
what y’all think
- HellfireUnitLevel Six
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 19th 2020, 2:46 am
Huge doubt. Don't see why Bane should be anywhere near Jinn or Maul, also Kun being above anyone on this list is absurd.
- Vaelias
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 19th 2020, 3:13 pm
HellfireUnit wrote:Huge doubt. Don't see why Bane should be anywhere near Jinn or Maul, also Kun being above anyone on this list is absurd.
Kun scales over the likes of ROTJ Sidious in power and we know he’s An amazing duelist, what makes you think it’s absurd he’s 100% one of the best duelists in galactic history. The skills he fought Kyp shocked Kyp and were more powerful than anything Luke had taught him,
Jedi Academy Vol.2: Dark Apprentice wrote:
He was enthralled by the new wonders Kun had shown him.
Jedi Academy Vol.3: Champions of the Force wrote:
The spirit of Exar Kun had meant to destroy the cloned Jedi student on a whim, as a gesture of power, but Kyp had stopped him, insisting instead that the Sith Lord teach him everything. Keep in mind living Kun > spirit Kun
Kyp Durron, Jedi Academy Vol.2: Dark Apprentice wrote:
"I've learned a great deal beyond your feeble teachings."
Kun was known for his dueling skills, why would a sith that is knowing for his dueling skills and scales above ROTJ Sidious not be in the top 10 duelists
Also if we look at his first performance against Vodo and then his Last one, the time difference there isn’t very long at all an he goes from overwhelming the best swordsman in the order to downright playing with him and then pretty much one shotting him instantly when Vodo refused to join him.
And why would Bane not be here, he’s fast to the point where he can dodge rain, applying that into combat he’s likely faster than Sidious who relies entirely on force speed in combat.
He also far surpassed Kas’im
“Kas'im had trained his entire life for this moment. After years of study, he'd mastered all seven forms of the lightsaber. Then he'd honed his skill for decades, perfecting every move and sequence until he had become the perfect weapon and the greatest living swordsman in the galaxy. Maybe the greatest swordsman ever.”
Source: Path of Destruction
Kas’im is stated to be maybe the greatest swordsman ever up to his day which solidly puts him on the top tier,
I wouldn’t put him above Kun though as a lot of Kuns knowledge died with him.
So if Kas’im is the best duelist in galactic history as of Path of Destruction bar Kun this puts him above literally everyone, and Bane far surpassed him by a huge margin, Bane could literally be 2nd or 3rd if hes far surpassed the likes of Kas’im who was a better duelist than literally everyone who came before him
An Maul got ragdolled by Sidious and Quigon was inferior to Maul as a duelist so idk why you would assume those guys are anything amazing let alone anything above Bane or Kun
And also Bane and Kuns feats are far better
- Vaelias
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 19th 2020, 3:19 pm
Sith Archivist wrote:I'd swap Dooku and Mace tbh
Meh I definitely think that Dooku > Mace in terms of overall power but as a duelist I think Mace has the edge, Anakin surpassed both Dooku and Mace in overall power but I think Windu remained the slightly better duelist due to Vaapad, but I for sure think that Anakin Dooku and Mace are all in the same ball park and all very close as duelists
- Halcylx
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 19th 2020, 7:16 pm
Vaelias wrote:1. Luke Skywalker
2. Exar Kun
3. Yoda
4. Darth Sidious
5. Darth Vader
6. Mace Windu
7. Anakin Skywalker
8. Count Dooku
9. General Grievous
10. Darth Bane
My list..
what y’all think
I’d say similar but I’d put Kun below Sidious
- BigMouthPrick
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 19th 2020, 9:03 pm
Pure sabers-only skill prowess:
1. Luke
2. Yoda
3. Dooku
4. Exar Kun
5. Anakin
6. Sidious
7. Cin Drallig
8. Ulic Qel-Droma
9. Mace Windu (Vaapad is a separate power imo)
10. Kas'im
1. Luke
2. Yoda
3. Dooku
4. Exar Kun
5. Anakin
6. Sidious
7. Cin Drallig
8. Ulic Qel-Droma
9. Mace Windu (Vaapad is a separate power imo)
10. Kas'im
- Vaelias
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 1:47 am
Thij wrote:Bane Too high
I know it’s a hot take but he FAR surpassed Kas’im who was stated to be the best swordsman in galactic history at his time, I’d say bar Kun as it’s stated a lot of his knowledge and power died with him, then you have the Feats which do solidly place him with the big boys
- Thij
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 1:52 pm
Vaelias wrote:Thij wrote:Bane Too high
I know it’s a hot take but he FAR surpassed Kas’im who was stated to be the best swordsman in galactic history at his time, I’d say bar Kun as it’s stated a lot of his knowledge and power died with him, then you have the Feats which do solidly place him with the big boys
The only evidence for Kasi'm being the best duelist as of his time comes from bane's inflated opinion. Don't see any reason Kasi'm should be superior to malak, malgus, etc.
- Primarch
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 2:05 pm
Kas'im being the best duelist of his time comes from the omniscient narrator. It's not Bane's opinion.Thij wrote:
The only evidence for Kasi'm being the best duelist as of his time comes from bane's inflated opinion. Don't see any reason Kasi'm should be superior to malak, malgus, etc.
- SeturnaLevel One
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 2:06 pm
Is this based on pure technical skill or correlated with augmention?
- Vaelias
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 3:30 pm
Seturna wrote:Is this based on pure technical skill or correlated with augmention?
Augmentation otherwise bye bye Sidious lol
- SeturnaLevel One
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 3:41 pm
Vaelias wrote:Seturna wrote:Is this based on pure technical skill or correlated with augmention?
Augmentation otherwise bye bye Sidious lol
Then why is Bane here?
- Vaelias
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 3:44 pm
Seturna wrote:Vaelias wrote:Seturna wrote:Is this based on pure technical skill or correlated with augmention?
Augmentation otherwise bye bye Sidious lol
Then why is Bane here?
Banes actually a great duelist even in technical skill
- SeturnaLevel One
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 3:57 pm
Vaelias wrote:Seturna wrote:Vaelias wrote:Seturna wrote:Is this based on pure technical skill or correlated with augmention?
Augmentation otherwise bye bye Sidious lol
Then why is Bane here?
Banes actually a great duelist even in technical skill
But falls behind in augmention compared to most people. Like why not just put later banites here instead of Bane like Tenebrous or Plagueis?
- Vaelias
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 4:00 pm
Seturna wrote:Vaelias wrote:Seturna wrote:Vaelias wrote:Seturna wrote:Is this based on pure technical skill or correlated with augmention?
Augmentation otherwise bye bye Sidious lol
Then why is Bane here?
Banes actually a great duelist even in technical skill
But falls behind in augmention compared to most people. Like why not just put later banites here instead of Bane like Tenebrous or Plagueis?
Bane scales below them in overall power but when it comes to dueling and we go off showings Bane easily is more impressive than any of the Banites, his augmentation is still great look at his rain feat where he literally dodges the storm
- SeturnaLevel One
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 4:05 pm
@Vaelias
Bane being more technically skilled though is irrelevant if Plagueis/Tenebrous scales vastly above him in power. Just look at Anakin vs Dooku for example when Dooku is perhaps more technically skilled than Anakin, yet falls flat in a power comparison. The gap between the technicall skill-power gap is way too big for Bane to be more skilled than them.
Bane being more technically skilled though is irrelevant if Plagueis/Tenebrous scales vastly above him in power. Just look at Anakin vs Dooku for example when Dooku is perhaps more technically skilled than Anakin, yet falls flat in a power comparison. The gap between the technicall skill-power gap is way too big for Bane to be more skilled than them.
- Lord Eon
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 4:48 pm
My List
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Sheev Palpatine
3. Yoda
4. Anakin Skywalker
5. Mace Windu
6. Darth Caedus
7. Obi Wan Kenobi
8. Count Dooku
9. Darth Maul
10. Asajj Ventress
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Sheev Palpatine
3. Yoda
4. Anakin Skywalker
5. Mace Windu
6. Darth Caedus
7. Obi Wan Kenobi
8. Count Dooku
9. Darth Maul
10. Asajj Ventress
- Primarch
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 4:50 pm
I'm curious as to how Kit Fisto is there but Exar Kun or Darth Krayt isn'tLord Eon wrote:My List
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Sheev Palpatine
3. Yoda
4. Anakin Skywalker
5. Mace Windu
6. Darth Caedus
7. Obi Wan Kenobi
8. Count Dooku
9. Darth Maul
10. Kit Fisto
- HellfireUnitLevel Six
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 4:58 pm
1 - Luke
2 - Yoda
3 - Sidious
4 - Dooku
5 - Anakin
6 - Kenobi
7 - Windu
8 - Maul
9 - Ventress
10 - Grievous
2 - Yoda
3 - Sidious
4 - Dooku
5 - Anakin
6 - Kenobi
7 - Windu
8 - Maul
9 - Ventress
10 - Grievous
- SeturnaLevel One
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 5:03 pm
1. Depa Billaba
2. Lucien Draay
3. Scout
4. Whie
5. Kas’im
6. Exar Kun
7. Shaak Ti
8. Agen Kolar
9. Saesee Tiin
10. Starkiller
2. Lucien Draay
3. Scout
4. Whie
5. Kas’im
6. Exar Kun
7. Shaak Ti
8. Agen Kolar
9. Saesee Tiin
10. Starkiller
- Primarch
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 5:04 pm
Terrible listSeturna wrote:1. Depa Billaba
2. Lucien Draay
3. Scout
4. Whie
5. Kas’im
6. Exar Kun
7. Shaak Ti
8. Agen Kolar
9. Saesee Tiin
10. Starkiller
- Thij
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 9:09 pm
Seturna wrote:1. Depa Billaba
2. Lucien Draay
3. Scout
4. Whie
5. Kas’im
6. Exar Kun
7. Shaak Ti
8. Agen Kolar
9. Saesee Tiin
10. Starkiller
- Vaelias
Re: Top 10 lightsaber Duelists
October 20th 2020, 9:23 pm
Seturna wrote:@Vaelias
Bane being more technically skilled though is irrelevant if Plagueis/Tenebrous scales vastly above him in power. Just look at Anakin vs Dooku for example when Dooku is perhaps more technically skilled than Anakin, yet falls flat in a power comparison. The gap between the technicall skill-power gap is way too big for Bane to be more skilled than them.
I 100% understand what you mean and I do agree but based on showings without any scaling of that sort Bane makes it up here and for me his showings are top tier and even a lot of his accolades
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