AotC Anakin vs Darth Vader

EmperorCaedus wrote:Reasons both of you.

HellfireUnit wrote:One who didn't lose to Hett.

EmperorCaedus wrote:Reasons both of you.

HellfireUnit wrote:

Meatpants wrote:Well considering how far Dooku scales above TPM Maul, and the fact that Anakin can press him, coupled with the Pablo quote and some other insane stuff Anakin has done as a Padawan gives off a clear message here. There's no proof that Vader's on Dooku's tier, and if we take Ressurection as any indication he's barely able to kill TPM Maul.

MasterCilghal wrote:Anakin takes it, with difficulty in his base state and destroys in case of a “flashes of brilliance” state, which allowed him to equal Dooku. If Vader can be seriously challenged by a lesser prodigy with far less training, I don’t see why Anakin shouldn’t defeat him.

MasterCilghal wrote:Anakin takes it, with difficulty in his base state and destroys in case of a “flashes of brilliance” state, which allowed him to equal Dooku. If Vader can be seriously challenged by a lesser prodigy with far less training, I don’t see why Anakin shouldn’t defeat him.

Meatpants wrote:So Yoda and Kenobi's increased wisdom allowed them to accelerate Luke's growth to a few weeks compared to the ten years Anakin has been a Padawan?

Latham2000 wrote:Luke didn't receive the same numbers of years of training, but he was trained by Yoda, who's a far better teacher than a AotC Obi-Wan, and he also got some brief instructions from a far wiser and more experienced Kenobi.

Meatpants wrote:So Yoda and Kenobi's increased wisdom allowed them to accelerate Luke's growth to a few weeks compared to the ten years Anakin has been a Padawan?

MasterCilghal wrote:

Latham2000 wrote:Luke didn't receive the same numbers of years of training, but he was trained by Yoda, who's a far better teacher than a AotC Obi-Wan, and he also got some brief instructions from a far wiser and more experienced Kenobi.

I don’t think that is enough to bridge the gap. Note that the amount of power Anakin possesses as of AOTC has been stated to be on par with Yoda’s, which was evident when he faced Dooku, a state which he achieved on several occasions outside of the Dooku duel. Luke by contrast, is “not that powerful a Jedi” (compared to Yoda), as stated in an insider article. 

Meatpants wrote:Well considering how far Dooku scales above TPM Maul, and the fact that Anakin can press him, coupled with the Pablo quote and some other insane stuff Anakin has done as a Padawan gives off a clear message here. There's no proof that Vader's on Dooku's tier, and if we take Ressurection as any indication he's barely able to kill TPM Maul.