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The Reborn Emperor
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May 1st 2019, 7:11 pm
Let's see your top ten list of PT Jedi based on combative ability. Anakin is not to be included in the list, he will be considered an enigma. This is because the arguments will just shift to Anakin only. I'll give a rough one I made up to start the debate.

1. Yoda
2. Mace Windu
3. Jedi Dooku
4. Obi-Wan Kenobi
5. Qui-Gon Jinn
6. Ki-Adi Mundi
7. Cin Drallig
8. Agen Kolar
9. Saesse Tiin
10. Kit Fisto (interchangeable)

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May 1st 2019, 8:05 pm
1. Yoda
2. Wace Mindu
3. Dount Cooku
4. Obi-Kan Wenobi
5. Din Crallig
6. Qui-Jon Ginn
7. Mi-Adi Kundi
8. Fit Kisto
9. Kagen Olar
10. Taesee Siin

Something like that anyway.
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May 1st 2019, 8:22 pm
1. Yoda
2. Mace Windu
3. Obi-Wan Kenobi
4. Yaddle
5. Jedi Dooku
6. Depa Billaba
7. Kit Fisto
8. Qui-Gon
9. Ki-Adi Mundi
10. Cin Drallig

Yaddle is underrated and overlooked. Kolar is overrated; Vos wasn't even trying to hurt him and was given orders to surrender if things got out of hand.


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May 1st 2019, 8:44 pm
>when you have Depa and Fisto above Qui-Gon.
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May 1st 2019, 9:04 pm
Meatpants wrote:>when you have Depa and Fisto above Qui-Gon.

Depa has shown blade-work on Nar Shaddaa that by Mace's own admission surpassed his own. And no his performance against her in Shatterpoint doesn't contradict his opinion. He's specifically referring to the events of Emissaries to Malastare more than ten years before Shatterpoint. This is good reason to believe she some parity with TPM Mace, which is above Jinn.
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May 1st 2019, 9:14 pm
So Depa showing technical skill surpassing Windu's, in his opinion, which is riddled with bias considering there's quotes saying he was extremely proud of her automatically places her above proven feats that Jinn has? Also, skill with the blade doesn't necessarily affect augmentation either.

Still waiting to hear anything on why Fisto is > Qui-Gon either.
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May 1st 2019, 11:08 pm
1. Yoda
2. Mace Windu
3. Obi-Wan Kenobi
4. Jedi Dooku
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May 2nd 2019, 12:04 am
Azronger wrote:1. Yoda
2. Mace Windu
3. Obi-Wan Kenobi
4. Jedi Dooku
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May 2nd 2019, 12:06 am
Anybody else is vastly inferior( maybe aside from Jorus)
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May 2nd 2019, 12:07 am
It's a top ten list tho.
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May 2nd 2019, 12:12 am
Azronger wrote:1. Yoda
2. Mace Windu
3. Obi-Wan Kenobi
4. Jedi Dooku
5. Jorus C'baoth
6. Cin Drallig
7. Kit/Qui Gon
8. Qui Gon/Kit
9. Ki Adi Mundi
10. Saesee Tiin
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May 2nd 2019, 12:15 am
Not really seeing Kit as > Mundi or potentially > Qui-Gon at all. Not sure why Jinn is sub Drallig either.
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May 2nd 2019, 12:20 am
There is more reason for Kit to be above Qui Gon than below.

Drallig vs Vader is a lot more impressive than Jinn vs Maul. Vader>TPM Sidious and Maul let alone counter, couldn't even track his moves basically establishing a one-shot level difference between them.
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May 2nd 2019, 12:23 am
Qui-Gon has equal plus more accolades, and Fisto doesn't have feats to match Jinn's Maul feats.

Not really sure about the Drallig stuff, especially sine KFV was choking out another guy simultaneously.
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May 2nd 2019, 12:27 am
That's for another day.

Another padawan. Yeah, that can't make up for the gap between Vader and TPM Sidious
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May 2nd 2019, 12:30 am
Are we really getting the impression that KFV is going all-out there? KFV is >(>) Sidious at this point, and considering Drallig was likely far below the likes of Kenobi, the fact that he DIDN'T get speeblitzed speaks to the fact that Vader wasn't all-out trying to kill him as quickly as possible. Even a tier 8 duelist (being extremely generous to Drallig) is going to get speedblitzed by someone who is > Sidious and Yoda and going all-out.
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May 2nd 2019, 12:35 am
KFV is inferior to Sidious though. He is also inferior to Yoda so that doesn't count.

He is noticeably above TPM Sidious though. So that counts

As to your point, there is no reason to believe that he wouldn't. He is no longer a Jedi and doesn't have Jedi restraint. There is no evidence or indication, in universe or out of universe, logical or holistic that he toyed with any Jedi in the temple
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May 2nd 2019, 12:41 am
Don't get me wrong, I'm not averse to Drallig being > Jinn, but I don't think the KFV thing is actually solid enough to give him that superiority with surety, especially since there's like three different accounts of how the battle goes, one of which IIRC is where Vader just snaps his neck (correct me if I'm wrong).
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May 2nd 2019, 12:47 am
Not sure. Ragdolling him with tk generally isn't as impressive as blitzing

Besides the movie has the lowest showing, hence let's go with that. Even then, Drallig comes off as better
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May 2nd 2019, 12:52 am
If we were to take the feat as solid, Drallig would have to be soaring above the likes of the B-team or Qui-Gon. But we get into shaky territory with comparing time lengths and stuff between two different duels. Qui-Gon can last well over a minute against a try-hard TPM Maul, but how does that compare to lasting against KFV who's using one arm for how many seconds?
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May 2nd 2019, 1:01 am
Qui Gon can last "half a minute".

Not sure about the comparison. I am not even sure that KF Vader is Vader's best incarnation given the number of quotes that state that he still has some loyalty to Obi Wan and Padme and isn't completely dark. Not sure that KFV is above TPM Sidious too.

The way I see it, you can interpret it any way for him. Haven't made up my mind on that yet.
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May 2nd 2019, 1:02 am
In general, I just side on whose side is surer. Nothing is certain other than blunt facts
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May 2nd 2019, 1:06 am
Not really sure the KFV is a blunt fact, do we know how long he actually lasted from start to finish?
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May 2nd 2019, 1:10 am
I never said it was

5 seconds maybe? Idk
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May 2nd 2019, 1:29 am
A 5 second maybe fight against Vader using one hand vs 10 sources on Jinn being able to match Maul for over half a minute and could last well over a minute before being cut down. I mean, I know what I think is surer honestly.
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