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EmperorCaedus
EmperorCaedus
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Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 12:43 pm
Let's settle this once and for all

Prime for both

Which sibling wins?
DarthAdi
DarthAdi

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 12:48 pm
Vaylin obviously.
IG
IG
Level Four
Level Four

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 1:07 pm
Vaylin oneshots, why does this mismatch exist?
BreakofDawn
BreakofDawn
Level Seven
Level Seven

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 1:58 pm
IG wrote:Vaylin oneshots, why does this mismatch exist?
EmperorCaedus
EmperorCaedus
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Level Three

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:32 pm
How does Vaylin one-shot Arcann?
IG
IG
Level Four
Level Four

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:33 pm
Try playing or watching SWTOR, then come back to us. Needless to say this fight is essentially KFV vs AOTC Dooku.
The Fallen Warrior
The Fallen Warrior
Level Four
Level Four

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:33 pm
There isn't a oneshot gap between the two and Arcann is much better in sabers
IG
IG
Level Four
Level Four

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:34 pm
There is literally a oneshot gap between Vaylin and Arcann.
BreakofDawn
BreakofDawn
Level Seven
Level Seven

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:35 pm
Isv wrote:There isn't a oneshot gap between the two and Arcann is much better in sabers
1) Chained Vaylin was already >/~ KOTET Arcann (a more powerful one than the one here). She then grew immensely more powerful, so yes there is.

2) Clearly not, since the two fought for several minutes in CQC.
The Adventurous Jedi
The Adventurous Jedi
Level Seven
Level Seven

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:36 pm
Why is this thread a thing? Even if it's not a one-shot Vaylin wins - anyone who says otherwise clearly hasn't played KOTFE/KOTET.
HellfireUnit
HellfireUnit
Level Six
Level Six

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:37 pm
Ah, ISV once again comments about games he doesn't play
The Fallen Warrior
The Fallen Warrior
Level Four
Level Four

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:37 pm
BoD wrote:
Isv wrote:There isn't a oneshot gap between the two and Arcann is much better in sabers
1) Chained Vaylin was already >/~ KOTET Arcann (a more powerful one than the one here). She then grew immensely more powerful, so yes there is.

2) Clearly not, since the two fought for several minutes in CQC.

Haven't you seen? SIDIOUS CAN'T RAGDOLL MAUL!!!!!

Arcann can't be ragdolled by Vaylin
The Fallen Warrior
The Fallen Warrior
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Level Four

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:38 pm
HellfireUnit wrote:Ah, ISV once again comments about games he doesn't play

Silence cur, I know a lot about Arcann
IG
IG
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Level Four

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:39 pm
@isv Arcann literally gets oneshotted by an omnidirectional burst of power from Vaylin @emperorcaedus.
The Adventurous Jedi
The Adventurous Jedi
Level Seven
Level Seven

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:39 pm
I like how BoD thinks immense growth automatically creates one-shot gaps between characters.
EmperorCaedus
EmperorCaedus
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Level Three

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:40 pm
None of these explanations explain how Vaylin one-shots a prime Arcann.
IG
IG
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Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:41 pm
Because she all but oneshotted a Prime arcann, you buffoon.
BreakofDawn
BreakofDawn
Level Seven
Level Seven

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:41 pm
Arcann can't be ragdolled by Vaylin

Put it this way:

Chained Vaylin, a KOTET Arcann plus level Force user, was powerless on Nathema. Unchained Vaylin while in orbit was seemingly completely unaffected by its void and detonated reactors from orbit by reaching across this void.

Then there's this:

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann 5757797-1893750186-JL1OP

I'm afraid you'll need to provide proof that KOTET Arcann can somehow stand up to (and defeat) a character whose vastly weaker self already matched him in sabers and the Force for several minutes.


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The Fallen Warrior
The Fallen Warrior
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Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:41 pm
IG wrote:@isv Arcann literally gets oneshotted by an omnidirectional burst of power from Vaylin @emperorcaedus.

He was taken off guard obviously.
EmperorCaedus
EmperorCaedus
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Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:42 pm
IG wrote:Because she all but oneshotted a Prime arcann, you buffoon.
That isn't an explanation, refer to fridge.


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The Adventurous Jedi
The Adventurous Jedi
Level Seven
Level Seven

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:42 pm
Yes, Arcann gets caught off guard right at the end of the fight when he thought Vaylin was defeated, that clearly creates one-shot gaps between the two.

BreakofDawn
BreakofDawn
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Level Seven

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:43 pm
Isv wrote:
IG wrote:@isv Arcann literally gets oneshotted by an omnidirectional burst of power from Vaylin @emperorcaedus.

He was taken off guard obviously.
Arcann's not an idiot. Even if he were off-guard, so was the Outlander, and while the Outlander was knocked backwards a few feet, Valk, Arcann and Senya were all one-shotted.
The Fallen Warrior
The Fallen Warrior
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Level Four

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:44 pm
BoD wrote:
Isv wrote:
IG wrote:@isv Arcann literally gets oneshotted by an omnidirectional burst of power from Vaylin @emperorcaedus.

He was taken off guard obviously.
Arcann's not an idiot. Even if he were off-guard, so was the Outlander, and while the Outlander was knocked backwards a few feet, Valk, Arcann and Senya were all one-shotted.

Well according to our lord and savior DarthAnt66 who has as much authority as Chee all force attacks are based on lapses in opponents defenses, this means that Arcann was off-guard
BreakofDawn
BreakofDawn
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Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:46 pm
Well according to our lord and savior DarthAnt66 who has as much authority as Chee all force attacks are based on lapses in opponents defenses, this means that Arcann was off-guard

Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann 5757797-1893750186-JL1OP

The Outlander (who is ~ Unchained Vaylin level by this point) is knocked back a few feet. Arcann is sent flying and neutralised for about a minute or two. Pretty obvious that there's a huge gap. I'll concede that it's not a one-shot gap (though that's mainly because Arcann's awesome), but there's certainly a ragdoll gap.


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IG
IG
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Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann Empty Re: Empress Vaylin vs Emperor Arcann

March 2nd 2020, 2:47 pm
Outlander still isn’t near Unchained Vaylin lmao. Literally Boyd says Vaylin > all but Valk in SWTOR and that outlander wins because she’s batshit basically.
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