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The Ellimist
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on August 30th 2019, 5:09 am
Impressiveness as in how much it suggests high Force power

Starkiller blowing up the Salvation
Sidious and Plagueis unbalancing the Force
Ziost
Force Storms
Luke rooting himself in the heart of the Force vs. UnuThul
UnuThul bending turbolasers
Nihilus draining planets
Valkorion creating monoliths
BreakofDawn
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on August 30th 2019, 11:24 am
Numbering them from 1 to 8...

3 > 7 > 8 >/= 2 > 5 > 6 > 4 > 1.
NotAA3
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on August 30th 2019, 11:48 am
Luke rooting himself in the heart of the Force vs. UnuThul>Force Storms>Nihilus draining planets>Ziost>Starkiller blowing up the Salvation>UnuThul bending turbolasers.

Valkorion creating monoliths - Very different to most of the others so idk where to rank it.
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on August 30th 2019, 11:53 am
Luke rooting himself in the heart of the Force vs. UnuThul>Force Storms>Ziost>Nihilus draining planets> UnuThul bending turbolasers.


These are the ones I know about, I have no idea about the others
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on August 30th 2019, 11:53 am
4>3>7>6>=1

I left stuff involving purely the 'force' stuff because it's subjective and can't be measured.
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on August 30th 2019, 12:35 pm
Luke vs UnuThul > Force Storms > Planetery Drain > Ziost > UnuThul bending Turbo Lasers > Salvation > Monoliths
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on August 30th 2019, 12:44 pm
Aside from cases where there is direct scaling between the feats (Force storm > unbalancing), all of these feats are so disparate in nature that I personally find almost any ranking completely arbitrary and based only on people's preexisting cognitive biases on who they favor between TOR and PT as opposed to any logical reasoning.

But I'm willing to - and would sincerely like to - be proven wrong.

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on August 30th 2019, 12:58 pm
Azronger wrote:Aside from cases where there is direct scaling between the feats (Force storm > unbalancing), all of these feats are so disparate in nature that I personally find almost any ranking completely arbitrary and based only on people's preexisting cognitive biases on who they favor between TOR and PT as opposed to any logical reasoning.

But I'm willing to - and would sincerely like to - be proven wrong.

@BreakofDawn @NotAA3 @MasterCilghal @TenebrousWay @HellfireUnit

I just think Luke pinning himself through the heart of Force and being completely an immovable thing is above Force Storms. IIRC not even black holes could move Luke in that state. In the end Force Storms were stopped, but it appears Luke became completely invincible at this moment which I would put above Sidious' storms. I may be wrong about this but it's just my two cents.
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on August 30th 2019, 1:16 pm
Azronger wrote:Aside from cases where there is direct scaling between the feats (Force storm > unbalancing), all of these feats are so disparate in nature that I personally find almost any ranking completely arbitrary and based only on people's preexisting cognitive biases on who they favor between TOR and PT as opposed to any logical reasoning.

But I'm willing to - and would sincerely like to - be proven wrong.

@BreakofDawn @NotAA3 @MasterCilghal @TenebrousWay @HellfireUnit

I don't disagree with you. That's why I only ranked what could be, somewhat, measured. Even then, it still does have a degree subjectivity considering SW doesn't follow real life physics completely.
The Ellimist
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on August 30th 2019, 4:10 pm
Luke rooting himself in the heart of the Force vs. UnuThul / Sidious and Plagueis unbalancing the Force / Force Storms
Ziost / UnuThul bending turbolasers
Nihilus draining planets / Valkorion creating monoliths / Starkiller blowing up the Salvation

Nihilus's feat would be much higher if it weren't possibly a savant ability.
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on August 31st 2019, 4:35 am
@HellfireUnit wrote:
Azronger wrote:Aside from cases where there is direct scaling between the feats (Force storm > unbalancing), all of these feats are so disparate in nature that I personally find almost any ranking completely arbitrary and based only on people's preexisting cognitive biases on who they favor between TOR and PT as opposed to any logical reasoning.

But I'm willing to - and would sincerely like to - be proven wrong.

@BreakofDawn @NotAA3 @MasterCilghal @TenebrousWay @HellfireUnit

I just think Luke pinning himself through the heart of Force and being completely an immovable thing is above Force Storms. IIRC not even black holes could move Luke in that state. In the end Force Storms were stopped, but it appears Luke became completely invincible at this moment which I would put above Sidious' storms. I may be wrong about this but it's just my two cents.

But why?
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on August 31st 2019, 4:37 am
@TenebrousWay wrote:
Azronger wrote:Aside from cases where there is direct scaling between the feats (Force storm > unbalancing), all of these feats are so disparate in nature that I personally find almost any ranking completely arbitrary and based only on people's preexisting cognitive biases on who they favor between TOR and PT as opposed to any logical reasoning.

But I'm willing to - and would sincerely like to - be proven wrong.

@BreakofDawn @NotAA3 @MasterCilghal @TenebrousWay @HellfireUnit

I don't disagree with you. That's why I only ranked what could be, somewhat, measured. Even then, it still does have a degree subjectivity considering SW doesn't follow real life physics completely.

How can you measure Ziost or Katarr cross-era-wise?
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on August 31st 2019, 6:10 am
Azronger wrote:But why?

Not 100% sure that it's > Force storms, but possible reasons:

  1. It seems to be an exercise of raw Force power rather than a very specific, esoteric technique from which the destructive energy comes from hyperspace.
  2. It depicts utter immovability, as opposed to presumably finite destructive power. It could be argued that a Force storm would not have dislodged Luke in that state.
  3. It is done against UnuThul, who 1) has bent turbolasers, which is arguably the best TK feat in the mythos, and 2) has the combined Force potential of the entire Killik colony, meaning trillions of beings, or far, far, far more Force potential than Sidious (and what he could've drained from Byss).
  4. There's some scaling that might work for you without being super convincing for me. One is that Mara Jade seems to think that UnuThul could defeat Luke yet knows Luke defeated Palpatine, which would scale UnuThul above Sidious (and Mara is a pretty knowledgable source on this). 
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on August 31st 2019, 8:37 am
Azronger wrote:Aside from cases where there is direct scaling between the feats (Force storm > unbalancing), all of these feats are so disparate in nature that I personally find almost any ranking completely arbitrary and based only on people's preexisting cognitive biases on who they favor between TOR and PT as opposed to any logical reasoning.
This.

Although the Emperor's Storms are at the top in terms of destructive capability.
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