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Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Cin Drallig, Kit Fisto & Ki-Adi Mundi Empty Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Cin Drallig, Kit Fisto & Ki-Adi Mundi

August 7th 2019, 3:52 am
Pre TCW (2008) feats only 🍆
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August 7th 2019, 4:07 am
If we only consider the movies, Kenobi wins. However considering the outer sources (such as Lucas, Gillard, novels etc.), the trio is too much for Kenobi. Mundi is the weakest link here imo.
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August 7th 2019, 4:49 am
Team
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August 7th 2019, 5:15 am
Yeah, Trio takes it but Lenovo puts up a good fight
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August 7th 2019, 7:44 am
Any good reason for the team winning would be nice
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August 7th 2019, 9:19 am
Prime Obi's Soresu is impenetrable
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August 7th 2019, 9:42 am
Probably Kenobi
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August 7th 2019, 10:08 am
Team tbh.
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August 7th 2019, 11:39 am
I've always been in the camp that says Fisto is reasonably close to RotS Kenobi(or at least beginning of RotS Kenobi - still on the fence as to whether or not Kenobi grew significantly) and can give him a decent fight before going down on his own. Drallig is fodder but helpful in a team match. Ki Adi is a bit hard to place. Not sure if he's B-Team level but he's definitely by my estimation much better than Drallig. 

I'm going to back the team for now, though I could be swayed. The thing is three magnaguards were enough to push Kenobi to the limits of his abilities in a direct match. Even the weakest member of the team is arguably above even the best of Grievous's guard and the environment here doesn't favor the sokan tactic he used to beat the droids.
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August 7th 2019, 1:33 pm
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Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Cin Drallig, Kit Fisto & Ki-Adi Mundi Empty Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Cin Drallig, Kit Fisto & Ki-Adi Mundi

August 7th 2019, 2:21 pm
Kenobi
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August 7th 2019, 2:43 pm
Definitely trio.
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August 7th 2019, 3:06 pm
obi wan would beat any of them solidly 10/10 in 1v1 closest fight would be against fisto .
but he can´t take on 3 jedi of this caliber on his own .
he is not RoTS sidious or yoda . his defences would be overwhelmed eventually .
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August 7th 2019, 3:50 pm
Trio

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August 7th 2019, 4:35 pm
obi wan would beat any of them solidly 10/10 in 1v1 closest fight would be against fisto .
but he can´t take on 3 jedi of this caliber on his own .
he is not RoTS sidious or yoda . his defences would be overwhelmed eventually .

Kenobi's endurance is pretty good, by the likes of his Mustafar fight and Grievous Utapau fights. The only way the trio are going to overwhelm him is if they all perform flawlessly for however long it takes for Obi to fatigue, which by the likes of it won't happen before old man Drallig does.
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August 7th 2019, 4:36 pm
@BigMouthPrick Welcome to the forum.
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August 7th 2019, 4:37 pm
kenobi wins in an excellent fight
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August 7th 2019, 4:51 pm
BigMouthPrick wrote:
obi wan would beat any of them solidly 10/10 in 1v1 closest fight would be against fisto .
but he can´t take on 3 jedi of this caliber on his own .
he is not RoTS sidious or yoda . his defences would be overwhelmed eventually .

Kenobi's endurance is pretty good, by the likes of his Mustafar fight and Grievous Utapau fights. The only way the trio are going to overwhelm him is if they all perform flawlessly for however long it takes for Obi to fatigue, which by the likes of it won't happen before old man Drallig does.
fisto alone would give obi wan a decent fight .
add those two and kenobi goes down .
his fights against grievous and mustafar vader were very circumstantional and
his style was tailor made for 1v1 fights against arrogant aggresive opponents .
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August 7th 2019, 5:21 pm
dark_globe wrote:
BigMouthPrick wrote:
obi wan would beat any of them solidly 10/10 in 1v1 closest fight would be against fisto .
but he can´t take on 3 jedi of this caliber on his own .
he is not RoTS sidious or yoda . his defences would be overwhelmed eventually .

Kenobi's endurance is pretty good, by the likes of his Mustafar fight and Grievous Utapau fights. The only way the trio are going to overwhelm him is if they all perform flawlessly for however long it takes for Obi to fatigue, which by the likes of it won't happen before old man Drallig does.
fisto alone would give obi wan a decent fight .
add those two and kenobi goes down .
his fights against grievous and mustafar vader were very circumstantional and
his style was tailor made for 1v1 fights against arrogant aggresive opponents .
Which feats does Fisto have to suggest he can put up a decent fight against Kenobi?
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August 7th 2019, 5:22 pm
Kit being close to Kenobi is legit crazy
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August 7th 2019, 5:52 pm
Kilius wrote:I've always been in the camp that says Fisto is reasonably close to RotS Kenobi(or at least beginning of RotS Kenobi - still on the fence as to whether or not Kenobi grew significantly) and can give him a decent fight before going down on his own. Drallig is fodder but helpful in a team match. Ki Adi is a bit hard to place. Not sure if he's B-Team level but he's definitely by my estimation much better than Drallig. 

I'm going to back the team for now, though I could be swayed. The thing is three magnaguards were enough to push Kenobi to the limits of his abilities in a direct match. Even the weakest member of the team is arguably above even the best of Grievous's guard and the environment here doesn't favor the sokan tactic he used to beat the droids.
Honestly I don’t think any of the three Jedi has near lightspeed reflexes like those magnaguards.
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August 7th 2019, 6:10 pm
YVH Cilghal wrote:
dark_globe wrote:
BigMouthPrick wrote:
obi wan would beat any of them solidly 10/10 in 1v1 closest fight would be against fisto .
but he can´t take on 3 jedi of this caliber on his own .
he is not RoTS sidious or yoda . his defences would be overwhelmed eventually .

Kenobi's endurance is pretty good, by the likes of his Mustafar fight and Grievous Utapau fights. The only way the trio are going to overwhelm him is if they all perform flawlessly for however long it takes for Obi to fatigue, which by the likes of it won't happen before old man Drallig does.
fisto alone would give obi wan a decent fight .
add those two and kenobi goes down .
his fights against grievous and mustafar vader were very circumstantional and
his style was tailor made for 1v1 fights against arrogant aggresive opponents .
Which feats does Fisto have to suggest he can put up a decent fight against Kenobi?
trading a few blows in lightsaber battle against 100% serious RoTS sidious going all out is more than enough .
fisto did not get insta blitzed like kolar and tiin which means he can at the very least react to very fast / top tier opponents .
kenobi could not hope for a better feat against RoTS sheev .
and then there is fisto vs kenobi sparring match portraying them as equals .
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August 7th 2019, 6:19 pm
Call me crazy but Drallig could solo if we take his fight with KF Vader in the ROTS game seriously
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August 7th 2019, 6:19 pm
Dark_Globe wrote:trading few blows in lightsaber battle against 100% serious RoTS sidious going all out is more than enough .
fisto did not get insta blitzed like kolar and tiin which means he can at the very least react to very fast / top tier opponents . 
kenobi could not hope for a better feat against RoTS sheev . 
and then there is fisto vs kenobi sparring match portraying them as equals .

1- The only reason Fisto held out longer was because Tiin and a Kolar were taken off guard whereas he had time to put up a defense, not to mention that he had Windu aiding him. 




He turned desperately to Saesee Tiin. "Master Tiin—you're the telepath. What am I thinking right now?" Tiin frowned and cocked his head. His blade dipped. A smear of red-flashing darkness hurtled from behind the desk. Saesee Tiin's head bounced when it hit the floor. Smoke curled from the neck, and from the twin stumps of the horns, severed just below the chin.
Kit Fisto gasped, "Saesee!"
The headless corpse, still standing, twisted as its knees buckled, and a thin sigh escaped from its trachea as it folded to the floor.
"It doesn't..." Agen Kolar swayed. His emerald blade shrank away, and the handgrip tumbled from his opening fingers. A small, neat hole in the middle of his forehead leaked smoke, showing light from the back of his head. "...hurt..." He pitched forward onto his face, and lay still.
...
Green fans, sheets of purple— And crimson flame. He was too late. The green fire faded and winked out; now the lightning was only purple and red.
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2- Who says Kenobi wouldn’t have performed better (at least with Windu’s help)? 
3- the sparring match actually depicted Fisto as the better one, but the Cestus deception novel takes place immediately after AOTC, Kenobi still had to go through a massive growth. 
Source: Revenge of the Sith
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August 7th 2019, 6:23 pm
YVH Cilghal wrote:
Dark_Globe wrote:trading few blows in lightsaber battle against 100% serious RoTS sidious going all out is more than enough .
fisto did not get insta blitzed like kolar and tiin which means he can at the very least react to very fast / top tier opponents . 
kenobi could not hope for a better feat against RoTS sheev . 
and then there is fisto vs kenobi sparring match portraying them as equals .

1- The only reason Fisto held out longer was because Tiin and a Kolar were taken off guard whereas he had time to put up a defense, not to mention that he had Windu aiding him. 




He turned desperately to Saesee Tiin. "Master Tiin—you're the telepath. What am I thinking right now?" Tiin frowned and cocked his head. His blade dipped. A smear of red-flashing darkness hurtled from behind the desk. Saesee Tiin's head bounced when it hit the floor. Smoke curled from the neck, and from the twin stumps of the horns, severed just below the chin.
Kit Fisto gasped, "Saesee!"
The headless corpse, still standing, twisted as its knees buckled, and a thin sigh escaped from its trachea as it folded to the floor.
"It doesn't..." Agen Kolar swayed. His emerald blade shrank away, and the handgrip tumbled from his opening fingers. A small, neat hole in the middle of his forehead leaked smoke, showing light from the back of his head. "...hurt..." He pitched forward onto his face, and lay still.
...
Green fans, sheets of purple— And crimson flame. He was too late. The green fire faded and winked out; now the lightning was only purple and red.
-revenge of the sith Novel
2- Who says Kenobi wouldn’t have performed better (at least with Windu’s help)? 
3- the sparring match actually depicted Fisto as the better one, but the Cestus deception novel takes place immediately after AOTC, Kenobi still had to go through a massive growth. 
Source: Revenge of the Sith
2. i say so : RoTS kenobi got ragdolled by much weaker sith lord during his fight and he had equally as good back up as fisto had .
RoTS anakin was present while dooku ragdolled kenobi .
if obi wan was present during "arrest attempt" on sidious he would have been blitzed or ragdolled all the same as kolar and tiin
despite the fact that he could probably take those two in 1v2 but the power disparity between them and RoTS sheev was just massive .


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