Darth Baras vs Exar Kun

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Baras stomps. Kun is at most Dark Council level.

Exar Kun.

Pre WoL and Spirit Kun one-shots

Base Kun dies Post Ritual pre WoL Kun and JA Kun oneshot

Reasons for base Kun losing?

He has this head canon about the Malak quote and thinks for some reason that he dictates the content of entire quotes that go against it. Humorous.

I don't think the Malak quote is a good enough reason since Malak beats every SWtOR Sith except Vitiate and Malgus. I took another look at Baras' feats and shit and I wasn't too impressed.

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Kun for sure

Baras beats Kun down. Maybe rubs your common sense wrong but should be the case from multiple angles.

DarthAnt66 wrote:Baras beats Kun down. Maybe rubs your common sense wrong but should be the case from multiple angles.

Kun massacres Baras, higher scaling against better competition, better feats and wrecks him in a duel

I need arguments from the Baras supporters

Baras is powerful enough to possibly be the Voice in the eyes of the Dark Council, believed by Vowrawn to be "nearly indestructible," believed by the Hand to only being able to be beaten by the Wrath, and believed by the Wrath to be his "greatest challenge" (so above Sel Makor or Ekkage, who is apparently a "stronger foe" than the "Jedi superweapon" Wyellet or Foundry Revan). He ultimately wages a "fierce" battle with the Wrath in which the Wrath apparently doubts whether either will survive, and his defeat causes the Dark Council to "bow before the unquestionable might" of the Wrath. His position in the upper elite of the Dark Council should make him then, per Scourge, a combat threat to a stronger Voice than the one that beat novel Revan. That's not to say Baras would beat novel Revan, but he's by all indicators in that league.

Exar Kun

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Baras. The simple fact that despite not being amp anymore by the Entity, Darth Marr himself wasn't sure if he wasn't the voice of the emperor (IE empowered by the power of Vitiate) his a clear proof of Baras insane level of power. Because of this huge gap of power between him and the dark council members and a possible proximity with Vitiate I don't understand why some people are arguing in favor of Exar Kun.

Because Vitiate doesn't cap Kun and Kun's got far better than making people think he's Vitiate tier.

@LadyKulvax If you are talking about your thon pseudo scaling I have already destroy it in a previous discussion HERE

Vader was a threat to Vitiate’s canonical superior yet pretty much all evidence points towards him losing to Kun. I’ve yet to see a convincing argument for someone that was stalemated by padawan Satele winning against him.

xolthol wrote:@LadyKulvax If you are talking about your thon pseudo scaling I have already destroy it in a previous discussion HERE

You literally backtracked on every point and goalpost shifted. Why would you link to getting your ass handed to you infront of everyone?

Kun is stronger than JA Luke and comparable to Palpatine by a plethora of quotes which clearly establish a narrative. JA Kun's also undisputably not as strong as TOTJ Kun. His scaling over Sadow\Plagueis utterly dwarfs anything Baras has. Vitiate isn't prime Kun level, yet. Baras certainly isn't.

Also if you want to talk about feats then I suggest Kun fighting tens of thousands of Jedi and only just losing, utterly shits on any SWTOR feat pre-Ziost.

LadyKulvax wrote:

xolthol wrote:@LadyKulvax If you are talking about your thon pseudo scaling I have already destroy it in a previous discussion HERE

You literally backtracked on every point and goalpost shifted. Why would you link to getting your ass handed to you infront of everyone?

Kun is stronger than JA Luke and comparable to Palpatine by a plethora of quotes which clearly establish a narrative. JA Kun's also undisputably not as strong as TOTJ Kun. His scaling over Sadow\Plagueis utterly dwarfs anything Baras has. Vitiate isn't prime Kun level, yet. Baras certainly isn't.

Also if you want to talk about feats then I suggest Kun fighting tens of thousands of Jedi and only just losing, utterly shits on any SWTOR feat pre-Ziost.