Kas'im vs Qui-Gon Jinn

Both in their prime.

Jinn stomps.

Jinn one shots

Reasons for Jinn?

Jinn turns the Blademaster to dust with a glare

VictreebelVictr wrote:Reasons for Jinn?

He's rough equals to Maul who is the most powerful Sith in galactic history as of TPM

this includes Darth Malak, who is 'Far more powerful than Base Exar Kun who is FAR more powerful than Freedon Nadd by an incredible Margin who then is Far more powerful than Naga Sadow who is more powerful than Darth Tenebrous who is a millennia of raw power growth above Darth Bane who is FAR above Lord Kaan who is probably a pretty substantial amount above Kas'im, so yeh poor Kas'im gets Instablitzd, Jinn is literally INSANELY far above him its not even funny

Vaelias wrote:

VictreebelVictr wrote:Reasons for Jinn?

He's rough equals to Maul who is the most powerful Sith in galactic history as of TPM

this includes Darth Malak, who is 'Far more powerful than Base Exar Kun who is FAR more powerful than Freedon Nadd by an incredible Margin who then is Far more powerful than Naga Sadow who is more powerful than Darth Tenebrous who is a millennia of raw power growth above Darth Bane who is FAR above Lord Kaan who is probably a pretty substantial amount above Kas'im, so yeh poor Kas'im gets Instablitzd, Jinn is literally INSANELY far above him its not even funny

None of Maul's feats place him anywhere near the level of Kun to be honest.

Going by a single outlier accolade seems a bit questionable.

What is the source?

Qui-Gon easily.

VictreebelVictr wrote:

Vaelias wrote:

VictreebelVictr wrote:Reasons for Jinn?

He's rough equals to Maul who is the most powerful Sith in galactic history as of TPM

this includes Darth Malak, who is 'Far more powerful than Base Exar Kun who is FAR more powerful than Freedon Nadd by an incredible Margin who then is Far more powerful than Naga Sadow who is more powerful than Darth Tenebrous who is a millennia of raw power growth above Darth Bane who is FAR above Lord Kaan who is probably a pretty substantial amount above Kas'im, so yeh poor Kas'im gets Instablitzd, Jinn is literally INSANELY far above him its not even funny

None of Maul's feats place him anywhere near the level of Kun to be honest.

Going by a single outlier accolade seems a bit questionable.

What is the source?

Hardly an outlying accolade, there's plenty more accolades labeling Maul the most powerful Sith up until TPM









he's also far more powerful than Darth Vader

'You (Darth Vader) are not of the bloodline of Bane. You are not fit to serve the Emperor.''
- Star Wars Tales 09 - Resurrection (2001)



and that's not even all of them they're just the ones i have saved atm

Vaelias wrote:

VictreebelVictr wrote:

Vaelias wrote:

VictreebelVictr wrote:Reasons for Jinn?

He's rough equals to Maul who is the most powerful Sith in galactic history as of TPM

this includes Darth Malak, who is 'Far more powerful than Base Exar Kun who is FAR more powerful than Freedon Nadd by an incredible Margin who then is Far more powerful than Naga Sadow who is more powerful than Darth Tenebrous who is a millennia of raw power growth above Darth Bane who is FAR above Lord Kaan who is probably a pretty substantial amount above Kas'im, so yeh poor Kas'im gets Instablitzd, Jinn is literally INSANELY far above him its not even funny

None of Maul's feats place him anywhere near the level of Kun to be honest.

Going by a single outlier accolade seems a bit questionable.

What is the source?

Hardly an outlying accolade, there's plenty more accolades labeling Maul the most powerful Sith up until TPM









he's also far more powerful than Darth Vader

'You (Darth Vader) are not of the bloodline of Bane. You are not fit to serve the Emperor.''
- Star Wars Tales 09 - Resurrection (2001)



and that's not even all of them they're just the ones i have saved atm

Still, none of Maul's feats support any of these accolades at all.

Maul's best force feats are easily replicated by many Sith Lords that have come before him.

VictreebelVictr wrote:

Vaelias wrote:

VictreebelVictr wrote:

Vaelias wrote:

VictreebelVictr wrote:Reasons for Jinn?

He's rough equals to Maul who is the most powerful Sith in galactic history as of TPM

this includes Darth Malak, who is 'Far more powerful than Base Exar Kun who is FAR more powerful than Freedon Nadd by an incredible Margin who then is Far more powerful than Naga Sadow who is more powerful than Darth Tenebrous who is a millennia of raw power growth above Darth Bane who is FAR above Lord Kaan who is probably a pretty substantial amount above Kas'im, so yeh poor Kas'im gets Instablitzd, Jinn is literally INSANELY far above him its not even funny

None of Maul's feats place him anywhere near the level of Kun to be honest.

Going by a single outlier accolade seems a bit questionable.

What is the source?

Hardly an outlying accolade, there's plenty more accolades labeling Maul the most powerful Sith up until TPM









he's also far more powerful than Darth Vader

'You (Darth Vader) are not of the bloodline of Bane. You are not fit to serve the Emperor.''
- Star Wars Tales 09 - Resurrection (2001)



and that's not even all of them they're just the ones i have saved atm

Still, none of Maul's feats support any of these accolades at all.

Maul's best force feats are easily replicated by many Sith Lords that have come before him.

its irrelevant, that's just the scaling, feats are only used to fill in the gaps where we don't have quotes, the general assumption is that Maul can perform those feats, but just hasn't, seeing as he is officially more powerful

Kas'im nigh ragdolls if not does ragdoll.

Thanaton wrote:Kas'im nigh ragdolls if not does ragdoll.

read what i just said, clearly not

You take some quotes way too seriously.

I agree that he is one of the deadliest Sith to ever live, but the accolades you have provided seem more like plot tools rather than legitimate statements.

Vaelias wrote:

VictreebelVictr wrote:Reasons for Jinn?

He's rough equals to Maul who is the most powerful Sith in galactic history as of TPM

this includes Darth Malak, who is 'Far more powerful than Base Exar Kun who is FAR more powerful than Freedon Nadd by an incredible Margin who then is Far more powerful than Naga Sadow who is more powerful than Darth Tenebrous who is a millennia of raw power growth above Darth Bane who is FAR above Lord Kaan who is probably a pretty substantial amount above Kas'im, so yeh poor Kas'im gets Instablitzd, Jinn is literally INSANELY far above him its not even funny

Bret, while this is all pretty much correct, Jinn snaps his fingers and Kas’im dies, you could have taken such an easier route to prove Jinn’s superiority here, this was overkill my guy.

The Maul quote is clearly hyperbolic, not a lot different than the Bane quote in fact

Jinn wins still

VictreebelVictr wrote:You take some quotes way too seriously.

I agree that he is one of the deadliest Sith to ever live, but the accolades you have provided seem more like plot tools rather than legitimate statements.

i take them seriously because they are meant to be serious, otherwise they wouldn't have been written, its not my decision what is canon or not and these quotes are.

SnowxElf wrote:The Maul quote is clearly hyperbolic, not a lot different than the Bane quote in fact

Jinn wins still

more than just one quote, I think the very existence of multiple quotes saying the same thing is proof enough that the quotes are true everything else aside.

Vaelias wrote:

VictreebelVictr wrote:You take some quotes way too seriously.

I agree that he is one of the deadliest Sith to ever live, but the accolades you have provided seem more like plot tools rather than legitimate statements.

i take them seriously because they are meant to be serious, otherwise they wouldn't have been written, its not my decision what is canon or not and these quotes are.

Pretty sure Leeland stated that quotes like that (or in general) are disputable.

Vaelias wrote:

SnowxElf wrote:The Maul quote is clearly hyperbolic, not a lot different than the Bane quote in fact

Jinn wins still

more than just one quote, I think the very existence of multiple quotes saying the same thing is proof enough that the quotes are true everything else aside.

Not really, we know Maul is not more powerful than Sidious - so quote debunked. Yes, he is one of the most skilled duelist in history that was never in question.

VictreebelVictr wrote:

Vaelias wrote:

VictreebelVictr wrote:You take some quotes way too seriously.

I agree that he is one of the deadliest Sith to ever live, but the accolades you have provided seem more like plot tools rather than legitimate statements.

i take them seriously because they are meant to be serious, otherwise they wouldn't have been written, its not my decision what is canon or not and these quotes are.

Pretty sure Leeland stated that quotes like that (or in general) are disputable.

yeh he just said that to keep it an open and discussable topic, but the sources which contain these quotes are endorsed by himself and LFL so....

Exactly, so the dude that made the source stated that it is debatable.

Cool.

SnowxElf wrote:

Vaelias wrote:

SnowxElf wrote:The Maul quote is clearly hyperbolic, not a lot different than the Bane quote in fact

Jinn wins still

more than just one quote, I think the very existence of multiple quotes saying the same thing is proof enough that the quotes are true everything else aside.

Not really, we know Maul is not more powerful than Sidious - so quote debunked. Yes, he is one of the most skilled duelist in history that was never in question.

Obviously the quote doesn't include Sidious, so quote not debunked at all, your response was completely irrelevant

VictreebelVictr wrote:Exactly, so the dude that made the source stated that it is debatable.

Cool.

LOOOL at Leland Chee making the sources

Vaelias wrote:

SnowxElf wrote:

Vaelias wrote:

SnowxElf wrote:The Maul quote is clearly hyperbolic, not a lot different than the Bane quote in fact

Jinn wins still

more than just one quote, I think the very existence of multiple quotes saying the same thing is proof enough that the quotes are true everything else aside.

Not really, we know Maul is not more powerful than Sidious - so quote debunked. Yes, he is one of the most skilled duelist in history that was never in question.

Obviously the quote doesn't include Sidious, so quote not debunked at all, your response was completely irrelevant

If we take the deadlier/powerful quotes at face value, which you're doing, then yes, it would include Sidious. Which is the point, they're clearly hyperbolic. The quotes don't say Sidious is excluded.