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JDB96
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on October 15th 2020, 10:43 pm
Where would you rank him? I know he’s held really low here but I genuinely wonder.
BigMouthPrick
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on October 15th 2020, 11:54 pm
As a combatant against waves of fodder jedi, Rebel troops, he is quite high given his endurance and equipment.

in 1v1 combat, I put him solidly below Darth Tyranus. Perhaps TPM Maul level or RotS Jedi like Plo Koon, Kolar, etc.
CuckedCurry
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on October 16th 2020, 2:37 am
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Yaddle level. So Koon+, but -B team
The lord of hunger
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on October 16th 2020, 2:56 am
Dooku levels
HellfireUnit
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on October 16th 2020, 4:01 am
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@CuckedCurry wrote:Yaddle level. So Koon+, but -B team

Imagine believing this
Vaelias
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on October 16th 2020, 12:46 pm
About the Same level as ROTS Darth Tyranus
He’s 80% of ROTJ Palpatine so he’s solidly far above TPM Maul
CuckedCurry
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on October 16th 2020, 2:54 pm
@HellfireUnit wrote:
@CuckedCurry wrote:Yaddle level. So Koon+, but -B team

Imagine believing this

Koon doesn’t make it past Shaak Ti
HeartoftheForce
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on October 16th 2020, 7:28 pm
Sub Qui-Gon
Latham2000
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on October 16th 2020, 7:31 pm
Valkorion tier imo
Thij
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on October 16th 2020, 7:33 pm
Within the Proximity of TPM Kenobi.
HellfireUnit
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on October 16th 2020, 7:42 pm
@HeartoftheForce wrote:Sub Qui-Gon
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on October 17th 2020, 4:09 am
Somwhere between Mace Windu and Dooku
I_Like_Chee
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on October 17th 2020, 11:15 am
Going to judge him relative to the Prequel Trilogy, as that's the era with the most obvious/established hierarchy.

In terms of combat speed, Lightsaber skill, and Force Power, he's below Qui-Gon Jinn - per Lucas and numerous C-Canon sources. However, a case can be made that he compensates in other areas - e.g. Force Mastery, durability, strength, and extreme willpower - and we even see this in Resurrection where he beats TPM Darth Maul (someone who's above Jinn) after a gruelling fight. As of ROTJ, I'd place him above TPM Maul as an overall combatant, but below TCW Maul. I know that's a pretty broad range, but we really don't have a way to gauge where exactly he precisely slots in.
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on October 17th 2020, 12:16 pm
NotAA3 wrote:Going to judge him relative to the Prequel Trilogy, as that's the era with the most obvious/established hierarchy.

In terms of combat speed, Lightsaber skill, and Force Power, he's below Qui-Gon Jinn - per Lucas and numerous C-Canon sources. However, a case can be made that he compensates in other areas - e.g. Force Mastery, durability, strength, and extreme willpower - and we even see this in Resurrection where he beats TPM Darth Maul (someone who's above Jinn) after a gruelling fight. As of ROTJ, I'd place him above TPM Maul as an overall combatant, but below TCW Maul. I know that's a pretty broad range, but we really don't have a way to gauge where exactly he precisely slots in.
Sjuttiosju
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on October 17th 2020, 1:21 pm
Below TPM Kenobi.
Master Azronger
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on October 24th 2020, 9:31 am
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I've held him in a limbo for a long time but after not seeing a convincing argument from the Vader brigade against Lucas's tyranny, I've lowered him below the TPM folks. Suit Vader, that is; pre-suit Vader is with the ROTS titans.

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on October 24th 2020, 4:05 pm
Plausibly above the ancient sith, below Jinn
Vaelias
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on October 24th 2020, 4:25 pm
@KingofBlades wrote:Plausibly above the ancient sith, below Jinn

Jinn is below the ancients how can he be above the ancients but below Jinn hahaha
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on October 24th 2020, 5:39 pm
@Vaelias wrote:
@KingofBlades wrote:Plausibly above the ancient sith, below Jinn

Jinn is below the ancients how can he be above the ancients but below Jinn hahaha

Ancients suck bro
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