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on July 13th 2019, 6:13 pm
1.Sabers
2.Force
3.All out

I'm trying to get a gauge on how KotOR era characters measure up to swtor era characters.
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on July 13th 2019, 6:17 pm
Surik trips
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on July 13th 2019, 6:23 pm
The new Surik scaling stomps
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on July 13th 2019, 6:31 pm
@Gᴏᴀᴛ wrote:The new Surik scaling stomps
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on July 13th 2019, 7:01 pm
@Gᴏᴀᴛ wrote:The new Surik scaling stomps
I'm unaware of the scaling you're referring to.
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on July 13th 2019, 7:10 pm
@KingofBlades wrote:
@Gᴏᴀᴛ wrote:The new Surik scaling stomps
I'm unaware of the scaling you're referring to.

Surik > Trayus!Surik > Trayus!Traya > Dantooine!Traya >> Zez-Kai Ell, Lonna Vash, Vrook Lamar, Kavar > DS!Atris > Vrook Lamar ~ Lonna Vash ~ Kavar ~ Zez-Kai Ell > Star Forge Bastila

POWER.
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on July 13th 2019, 7:23 pm
Grey's Apprentice wrote:
@KingofBlades wrote:
@Gᴏᴀᴛ wrote:The new Surik scaling stomps
I'm unaware of the scaling you're referring to.

Surik > Trayus!Surik > Trayus!Traya > Dantooine!Traya >> Zez-Kai Ell, Lonna Vash, Vrook Lamar, Kavar > DS!Atris > Vrook Lamar ~ Lonna Vash ~ Kavar ~ Zez-Kai Ell > Star Forge Bastila

POWER.

Most of the scaling makes sense but what connects Star forge bastila to the rest of it.
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on July 13th 2019, 10:01 pm
SF!Bastila herself says she is:

Bastila to Revan, Knights of the Old Republic wrote:The Dark Side has made me stronger than I ever was before! I have a greater command of the Force than all but the most powerful Jedi masters.
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on July 13th 2019, 10:16 pm
Meetra couldn't even perceive how fast she'd die against the Hero. Scourge says "You are the Jedi's finest " to HoT, which places Chapter 2 HoT above novel Revan and Meetra.
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on July 13th 2019, 10:18 pm

^
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on July 13th 2019, 10:19 pm
EoActIII!Hero of Tython wins but it isn't anything like easy, SoR!Hero wins a little more convincingly.
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on July 13th 2019, 10:35 pm
It would be way more one-sided than you make it sound. The Hero is already above beings vastly superior to Meetra as of Act II.
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on July 13th 2019, 10:37 pm
Literally nothing you said is true.
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on July 13th 2019, 10:39 pm
Take it up with Lord Scourge
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on July 13th 2019, 10:40 pm
Do you even know what Scourge is referring to when he says that?
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on July 13th 2019, 10:41 pm
Let me guess, political power?
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on July 13th 2019, 10:46 pm
He is talking about the present when he says that. When he actually refers to Revan and the Exile he implies equality. I could make just as ludicrous a claim and imply that when he calls Revan and the Exile their greatest heroes then that puts them above the Hero. But that's obviously not true.

The three of them are very clearly portrayed as the very best, top tier, and the cream of the crop.
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on July 14th 2019, 12:15 am
He calls them the greatest Jedi heroes, not just Jedi, which is a term repeatedly used in that dialogue while referring to them. HoT is even amazed by the fact that Scourge knew such "legends". On top of that, the fact that he hypes them equally in a conversation where he also talks about how Meetra became Revan’s student again further supports that he wasn’t talking about power.

The context for the “You’re Jedi’s finest” quote is very different. Scourge right after says that it is not enough to save him, which is obviously referring to how well he’d do against the Emperor, since the Hero was there to fight Vitiate. The only 2 Jedi that we know of who have fought the Emperor while Scourge was present are Revan and Meetra. Do the math.
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on July 14th 2019, 12:20 am
That's such a ludicrously vast leap in logic, I don't know where to begin.
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on July 14th 2019, 12:38 am
@MacialRecognition wrote:He calls them the greatest Jedi heroes, not just Jedi, which is a term repeatedly used in that dialogue while referring to them. HoT is even amazed by the fact that Scourge knew such "legends". On top of that, the fact that he hypes them equally in a conversation where he also talks about how Meetra became Revan’s student again further supports that he wasn’t talking about power.

The context for the “You’re Jedi’s finest” quote is very different. Scourge right after says that it is not enough to save him, which is obviously referring to how well he’d do against the Emperor, since the Hero was there to fight Vitiate. The only 2 Jedi that we know of who have fought the Emperor while Scourge was present are Revan and Meetra. Do the math.

Ignoring that SoR Revan would roflstomp SoR HoT if they fought 1v1 without lightside Revan's interference.
So according to you Revan goes from being sub Act 2 HoT to being able to roflstomp SoR HoT. Hmmm...
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on July 14th 2019, 2:41 am
Well, if nothing contradicts it, I don't see the problem. He seems to have these huge shifts in power. Look at how weak he is during the Foundry mission.
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on July 14th 2019, 2:43 am
He isn't less powerful, he's just a psychological mess as he himself explains in SOR.
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on July 14th 2019, 2:57 am
Shouldn't you be working on your response to my other post?
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on July 14th 2019, 3:00 am
You do realise that his entire 'save you' statement is in reference to him literally saving the Hero from the Emperor's Space Fortress? I don't need to reply when your entire basis is flawed.

Your appeal to Scourge has failed, simple as that.
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on July 14th 2019, 3:15 am
I mean I'm not into fan fiction. At least give me forged quotes or something.
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