Prime Kenobi vs Prime Darth Vader (suit)

R1: Lightsabers only

R2: Force only

R3: All out

Who wins and why?

Kenobi is simply better at everything. Vader stands no chance.

Kenobi in all.

Kenobi stomps

Wow I thought this would actually be a good fight with Vader even winning. Is prime Kenobi (Revenge of the Sith) really that strong? I thought prime Vader is more powerful.

Kenobi isn’t strong. Vader is weak 

Bourbon wrote:Wow I thought this would actually be a good fight with Vader even winning. Is prime Kenobi (Revenge of the Sith) really that strong? I thought prime Vader is more powerful.

It is just that Vader sucks actually

Vader if he is really going all out. He is just more powerful.

He went all-out against Luke and lost, he isn't beating Kenobi.

Vader isn't garbage either.

@Meatpant we've discussed this, let's just agree to disagree

@Meatpants

I don't think Vader was going all out against Luke. He didn't want to kill him. He was trying to make Luke unleash his anger to turn him to the dark side. That's why he used Leia because that was Luke's weakpoint to seduce him to anger. Also Vader was caught by surprise when Luke attacked him.

Vader isn't garbage either. [/quote]

@Meatpants Well atleast we can agree on this

Kenobi clowns Vader in all 3 rounds.

Am I missing something about Prime Kenobi?

No. You are only missing in regards to Vader 

Great fight, but Darth Vader decisively in all three.

Considering the rather enormous gap between TPM and ROTS Kenobi, Vader loses badly every round.

MasterCilghal wrote:Considering the rather enormous gap between TPM and ROTS Kenobi, Vader loses badly every round.

That doesn't matter if Vader is above TPM Kenobi anyway

@SithSauce
@Thrawn

Reasoning for why the suited broken man wins?

R1: Kenobi.
R2: Vader.
R3: Either way but leaning Kenobi.

HellfireUnit wrote:

Bourbon wrote:Wow I thought this would actually be a good fight with Vader even winning. Is prime Kenobi (Revenge of the Sith) really that strong? I thought prime Vader is more powerful.

It is just that Vader sucks actually

I assume that this is going to be one of your usual "Vader sux" moments with no elaboration or substantiation beyond age old "Lucas said this in 1999" rhetoric, if that?

1. Kenobi after a boring chess match.

2. Stalemate. Force only matches are pointless unless one possess lightning or some other esoteric ability. 

3. Kenobi. Same fight as 1.

BoD wrote:

HellfireUnit wrote:

Bourbon wrote:Wow I thought this would actually be a good fight with Vader even winning. Is prime Kenobi (Revenge of the Sith) really that strong? I thought prime Vader is more powerful.

It is just that Vader sucks actually

I assume that this is going to be one of your usual "Vader sux" moments with no elaboration or substantiation beyond age old "Lucas said this in 1999" rhetoric, if that?

I think people here like to trigger the Vader brigade. Best not replying to these type of comments. I don't think HFU actually thinks Vader sucks especially considering not to long ago he was actually defending him against a lot of the anti Vader brigade

I'm aware. @HellfireUnit also changes his opinions faster than a stripper goes through bras, so I'm not surprised he's gone from "Vader is good" to "Vader sucks".