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April 25th 2020, 5:23 pm
Round 1: TCW S7 Ahsoka.

Round 2: SWR Ahsoka.


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April 25th 2020, 5:28 pm
I think you forgot a "vs" in title. 

But Ahsoka wins both rounds, holding her own against prime Maul is well beyond their capabilities.
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April 25th 2020, 6:12 pm
Is this AOTC versions for both Anakin and Obi-Wan?
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April 25th 2020, 6:31 pm
TheNuisanceBird wrote:Is this AOTC versions for both Anakin and Obi-Wan?
Yes, I forgot to mention that.
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April 26th 2020, 1:45 pm
If this is their Legends versions they should take round 1 easily. 

Round 2 should be their's after some effort.
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April 26th 2020, 11:09 pm
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why would it be their legends' versions lmao
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April 27th 2020, 1:12 am
King Joker wrote:why would it be their legends' versions lmao

Given that one can argue that S7 fits into both continuities, it's not an unreasonable assumption to make. Especially considering Suspect Insight guidelines state that characters are from legends unless specifically stated otherwise. 

As to how one could argue S7 as potentially being legends, Maul makes direct reference to SoD which is a legends/canon comic thus an extension from this comic would be classified as the same. Also, CW (2008) stands as both canon and legends so one could also argue that given this placement of earlier seasons, the extensions of the series would fall under the same umbrella. 

However, feel free to correct me here with sources that explicitly rule out S7 as canon/legends material.
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April 27th 2020, 2:23 am
@Trayus Marauder By that logic, one could argue the sequel trilogy is Legends as well. Seeing as S7 came out long after the split, I don't see sufficient grounds to deem it Legends just because it references a shared continuity source.

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April 27th 2020, 2:30 am
Azronger wrote:@Trayus Marauder By that logic, one could argue the sequel trilogy is Legends as well. Seeing as S7 came out long after the split, I don't see sufficient grounds to deem it Legends just because it references a shared continuity source.

Not really sure how that logic adds up. The sequel trilogy is not really tied in with any materials that fall under the canon/legends placement while S7 is a continuation of such a project. Kinda similar to how SWTOR expansions released fall under legends despite their release date arriving after the split. 

Could be wrong of course but I'm yet to see a source that rules out the concept.
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April 27th 2020, 2:37 am
Your argument is that Season 7 is a continuation of the earlier seasons of The Clone Wars, and Son of Dathomir, which fall under both Canon and Legends, and that Season 7 makes references to these sources.

Likewise, the sequel trilogy, despite its shoddy execution, is a continuation of the classic films that fall under both continuities, hence them being Episodes 7, 8, and 9, and being part of the Skywalker saga; and they also make numerous references to the classic films.

The logic you're applying to Season 7 should therefore also be applied to the sequel trilogy, making them Legends.

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April 27th 2020, 2:50 am
Azronger wrote:Your argument is that Season 7 is a continuation of the earlier seasons of The Clone Wars, and Son of Dathomir, which fall under both Canon and Legends, and that Season 7 makes references to these sources.

Likewise, the sequel trilogy, despite its shoddy execution, is a continuation of the classic films that fall under both continuities, hence them being Episodes 7, 8, and 9, and being part of the Skywalker saga; and they also make numerous references to the classic films.

The logic you're applying to Season 7 should therefore also be applied to the sequel trilogy, making them Legends.

So how do you go about explaining the SWTOR example I gave and its potential similarities to CW. 

Using your breakdown of my argument and applying it to the sequel trilogy doesn't work. While 7/8/9 are a continuation of a movie series that fits both continuities, they are noted as being within a separate timeline. As far as I'm aware, this season of CW doesn't have such a placement. And as noted with projects like SWTOR and SoD, things released post split still have a legitimate claim to the legends timeline when appropriate.
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April 27th 2020, 4:53 am
@Azronger So basically treat TCW S7 as if it was Rebels?
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April 27th 2020, 4:56 am
@Trayus Marauder The default rule is that anything released post-split is Canon unless specified otherwise. TOR and SOD with their Legends tags are exceptions. There's nothing clarifying for Season 7 so we automatically default to Canon. The logic you're using very much applies to the ST as well.

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April 27th 2020, 4:56 am
SithSauce wrote:@Azronger So basically treat TCW S7 as if it was Rebels?

Yes

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April 27th 2020, 11:34 am
SithSauce wrote:@Azronger So basically treat TCW S7 as if it was Rebels?

That may be a little harsh.
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April 27th 2020, 12:26 pm
@TheNuisanceBird In the context of it's overall canonicity within Legends. I'm not comparing S7 to Rebels in terms of quality.
I actually haven't seen S7 yet.
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April 28th 2020, 3:04 pm
tano in a decent fight 
Tano nearly murks, if not outright does it.
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April 29th 2020, 12:34 am
Ahsoka stomps, she’s around 50% of Sidious
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