Darth Vader (RotJ) and Luke Skywalker (RotJ) vs B-Team

Standard SI conditions. No Vader low balling please.

Honestly either Vader or Luke solo

SithSauce wrote:Honestly either solo

I agree. Anyone of B-Team solos

Any member of B-team solos handily, but with equalized power ROTJ Luke and Vader working together could pose a threat to any individual member, but still ultimately lose.

Reynard (Ethanion) wrote:Any member of B-team solos handily, but with equalized power ROTJ Luke and Vader working together could pose a threat to any individual member, but still ultimately lose.

you see the OP's rules?

Reasoning is this clarification of how Enraged ROTJ Luke relates to the likes of Qui Gon Jinn.

SithSauce wrote:

Reynard (Ethanion) wrote:Any member of B-team solos handily, but with equalized power ROTJ Luke and Vader working together could pose a threat to any individual member, but still ultimately lose.

you see the OP's rules?

I did, hence why with equalized power the ROTJ duo could present a threat or challenge to individual members of the B-team.

Honestly, B-Team. Mace is already more than a match for Vader. Adding 3 council members seals the fate of father and son by Cat Stevens.

If Mace is part of the team then they win

Luke and Vader win, assuming that Windu isn't present. If Windu is there, he smites the father-son duo on his own.

Reynard (Ethanion) wrote:

SithSauce wrote:

Reynard (Ethanion) wrote:Any member of B-team solos handily, but with equalized power ROTJ Luke and Vader working together could pose a threat to any individual member, but still ultimately lose.

you see the OP's rules?

I did, hence why with equalized power the ROTJ duo could present a threat or challenge to individual members of the B-team.

Lucas confirmed Vader is more powerful than Luke, so Vader is exempt from the quote you posted.

Duo gets stomped

Well seems the op go to batshit latham 
no one can have a day without lowballing vader

Note Mace is not a part of the B-Team. The B-Team is what Lucas described Fisto, Tiin, and Kolar. Mace would be on the A-Team.

DarthAnt66 wrote:Note Mace is not a part of the B-Team. The B-Team is what Lucas described Fisto, Tiin, and Kolar. Mace would be on the A-Team.

ngl, if u add Mr T, they stand like, negative chances

Yes, Mace Windu is not allowed here.

matter or not the match go full downplaying

What does the OP even mean by don't lowball lmao. Are you saying people who don't hold Vader as high as you want shouldn't be allowed to post their thoughts.

Duo go down in a decent to good fight in sabers. They're outnumbered and Vader isn't agile enough to compete. In the Force, the duo take this pretty handily.

KingofBlades wrote:What does the OP even mean by don't lowball lmao. Are you saying people who don't hold Vader as high as you want shouldn't be allowed to post their thoughts.

As in the trolling aka sub tpm Kenobi

KingofBlades wrote:What does the OP even mean by don't lowball lmao. Are you saying people who don't hold Vader as high as you want shouldn't be allowed to post their thoughts.

I mean no trolling/shitposting.

Latham2000 wrote:

KingofBlades wrote:What does the OP even mean by don't lowball lmao. Are you saying people who don't hold Vader as high as you want shouldn't be allowed to post their thoughts.

I mean no trolling/shitposting.

did you seriously believe they will stop ?

im just gonna repeat this :
“So whatever quote that favors Vader doesn't count because of that one time when George Lucas said he was an old man in robot suit. Great to know SW debating is still going strong”

SithSauce wrote:

KingofBlades wrote:What does the OP even mean by don't lowball lmao. Are you saying people who don't hold Vader as high as you want shouldn't be allowed to post their thoughts.

As in the trolling aka sub tpm Kenobi

Why is that trolling? Are people not allowed to hold that stance legitimately?

I mean whether lowballing or not, Ethan provided a small yet an effective case. I expect from Vader supporters the same and explain their reasoning why Vader should win here. Star Wars debating won't go strong if noone debates.