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on December 10th 2019, 11:46 am
yeah lol but people say it just his or maul's imo, so its not legit. THERE'S THIS THING AUTHOR'S INTENT, PEOPLE
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on December 10th 2019, 11:49 am
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@Azronger I concur.
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on December 10th 2019, 12:25 pm
@EmperorCaedus wrote:DE Sidious > Valkorion ~> RotJ Sidious >> RotS Sidious > Darth Vitiate (Novel) ~> TPM Sidious, imo

DE Sidious > RotJ Sidious > RotS Sidious > Post-boost Sidious > Darth Plagueis > ~ TPM Sidious > Valkorion. Shitkorion's hype never changes.
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on December 10th 2019, 12:30 pm
sheev in only stronger than vitiate after he kills plagueis and inherents that power amp, btw.

so more like

DE sheev> ROTJ sheev> ROTS sheev> valkorion> post amp sheev> vitiate/plagueis
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on December 10th 2019, 12:34 pm
Your scaling does not based on anything rather personal views.
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on December 10th 2019, 12:35 pm
its actually not. he is only called the strongest sith after he kills plagueis
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on December 10th 2019, 12:37 pm
Before him Plagueis is called to be the strongest Sith.
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on December 10th 2019, 12:45 pm
yes so duh lol he can only be the strongest AFTER plagueis dies, like i said hahaha
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on December 10th 2019, 12:58 pm
@HellfireUnit Mate, you know I love you, but your ranking of Valkorion legitimately made me cringe.
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on December 10th 2019, 1:00 pm
BreakofDawn wrote:@HellfireUnit Mate, you know I love you, but your ranking of Valkorion legitimately made me cringe.

I love you too man, let's just be thankful this is the worst thing we cannot agree on.
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on December 10th 2019, 1:01 pm
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on December 10th 2019, 8:47 pm
@Azronger wrote:
@DC77 (Reborn) wrote:To pre-emptively address something, Vitiate being a mask, the argument commonly touted by TOR crew, is irrelevant, Palpatine was also a mask for Sids, yet you wouldn't say he's not a politician. Mask or not, Vitiate was, in essence a sith. Valk is a different matter though.

Indeed. Vitiate's title is a Sith Lord and the Sith Emperor. Whether he himself believes in Sith ideology is beside the point; he is officially recognized both in-universe and out-of-universe as a Sith until his departure from the Empire. If ranks don't matter, then Darth Nihilus wasn't a Sith Lord either because he didn't care for Sith philosophy; Palpatine wasn't the Supreme Chancellor of the Republic because he secretly despised democracy; and so on. Heck, if we stretch this line of logic to its conclusion, then even a carrot is technically not a carrot because it has no internal monologue about its state of being as an orange vegetable. Or, if a person in psychosis believes themselves to be a lettuce wrap, do they taxonomically stop being a human because they themselves believe otherwise?


The amount of times this argument has been debunked, kek.
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on December 10th 2019, 8:55 pm
Technically, Vitiate stopped considering himself a Sith shortly after the novel, when he began building the Eternal Empire. He only returned to use the Jedi and Sith after that, not return as the Sith Emperor.
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on December 11th 2019, 2:35 pm
It's been debunked so many times that I've lost track of what the debunk was, and thus have no way to reiterate it. Thanks!
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