TPM was Maul's Prime

Legends TPM Maul is more powerful than SoD Maul and would dominate in a fight.

SoD is not C-Canon to Legends. The comic book is Canon only. This means that all of Maul's greatest feats that occurred in the EU (pre-TPM) don't apply to SoD Maul.

Canon TPM Maul < SoD Maul < EU TPM Maul

EDIT: fixed *TMP* acronym you guys can stop harassing me now

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Sons of Dathomir is both Legends and Canon, lol

Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Sons of Dathomir is both Legends and Canon, lol

SoD is not part of the legends timeline/continuity. It is Canon ONLY
Many EU fans say otherwise, but they're denying fact. Your head canon =/= reality

Okay... um, for one thing The Menace Phantom Maul is OP anyway.

For another how does this make it so he doesn't grow in SC?

throughout TCW he was stated to grow lol

CLONE THE WARS > THE MENACE PHANTOM

Hm, that depends on how we're defining Legends continuity. Note that Matt Martin, who's apart of the Lucasfilm Story Group, sees no reason why SoD wouldn't also be apart of both Legends and Canon continuity. 

Welcome to the forum, BTW. Glad to have you here.

Marc Spector wrote:

Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Sons of Dathomir is both Legends and Canon, lol

SoD is not part of the legends timeline/continuity. It is Canon ONLY
Many EU fans say otherwise, but they're denying fact. Your head canon =/= reality

Lmao ask @Darth JooJ , he's literally got a copy of SoD with the legends thingy on the top

Blade_of_Dorin wrote:

Marc Spector wrote:

Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Sons of Dathomir is both Legends and Canon, lol

SoD is not part of the legends timeline/continuity. It is Canon ONLY
Many EU fans say otherwise, but they're denying fact. Your head canon =/= reality

Lmao ask @Darth JooJ , he's literally got a copy of SoD with the legends thingy on the top

Hm. If that's true, then that would likely be a publisher error, given they wouldn't put a Legends label on a book that's also Canon.

DarthAnt66 wrote:

Blade_of_Dorin wrote:

Marc Spector wrote:

Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Sons of Dathomir is both Legends and Canon, lol

SoD is not part of the legends timeline/continuity. It is Canon ONLY
Many EU fans say otherwise, but they're denying fact. Your head canon =/= reality

Lmao ask @Darth JooJ , he's literally got a copy of SoD with the legends thingy on the top

Hm. If that's true, then that would likely be a publisher error, given they wouldn't put a Legends label on a book that's also Canon.

the SF Malak quote is likely a publisher error

In-sidiousvader wrote:

DarthAnt66 wrote:

Blade_of_Dorin wrote:

Marc Spector wrote:

Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Sons of Dathomir is both Legends and Canon, lol

SoD is not part of the legends timeline/continuity. It is Canon ONLY
Many EU fans say otherwise, but they're denying fact. Your head canon =/= reality

Lmao ask @Darth JooJ , he's literally got a copy of SoD with the legends thingy on the top

Hm. If that's true, then that would likely be a publisher error, given they wouldn't put a Legends label on a book that's also Canon.

the SF Malak quote is likely a publisher error

lol

DarthAnt66 wrote:Hm, that depends on how we're defining Legends continuity. Note that Matt Martin, who's apart of the Lucasfilm Story Group, sees no reason why SoD wouldn't also be apart of both Legends and Canon continuity. 

Welcome to the forum, BTW. Glad to have you here.

Everything canon has to be Legends technically since Legends constitutes things that may or may not have happened. Canon constitutes things that certainly happened

I agree, The Menace Phantom Maul is the strongest.

Maul had grown more powerful since the last time he’d been in Sidious’s presence, before the Neimoidian invasion of Naboo had turned disastrous and Obi-Wan had bested him inside the Theed power core. His hermitage on Lotho Minor, his lessons on Unbara, his restoration by Mother Talzin, and his training of Savage had all strengthened him, made him a more worthy vessel for the Dark Side to fill with its power.
-Source : Darth Maul: Shadow Conspiracy

Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Maul had grown more powerful since the last time he’d been in Sidious’s presence, before the Neimoidian invasion of Naboo had turned disastrous and Obi-Wan had bested him inside the Theed power core. His hermitage on Lotho Minor, his lessons on Unbara, his restoration by Mother Talzin, and his training of Savage had all strengthened him, made him a more worthy vessel for the Dark Side to fill with its power.
-Source : Darth Maul: Shadow Conspiracy

Darth Maul was a warrior in his prime never to be any better.
-The Menace Phantom Novel

Don't @ me boi.

Spoiler:

In-sidiousvader wrote:

Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Maul had grown more powerful since the last time he’d been in Sidious’s presence, before the Neimoidian invasion of Naboo had turned disastrous and Obi-Wan had bested him inside the Theed power core. His hermitage on Lotho Minor, his lessons on Unbara, his restoration by Mother Talzin, and his training of Savage had all strengthened him, made him a more worthy vessel for the Dark Side to fill with its power.
-Source : Darth Maul: Shadow Conspiracy

Darth Maul was a warrior in his prime never to be any better.
-The Menace Phantom Novel

Don't @ me boi.

Spoiler:

The Menace Phantom :O

You guys can say what you wish. That doesn't deny the fact that it is N Canon to the EU timeline. Legends Maul > Canon Maul

Marc Spector wrote:You guys can say what you wish. That doesn't deny the fact that it is N Canon to the EU timeline. Legends Maul > Canon Maul

dude that's not what we are saying lol



Like let me make this perfectly clear, the debate as to whether SOD is Legends means nothing to me, though it slots in that's not the point.

The novel shadow conspiracy covers Maul's TCW escapades and clearly states he grew, so The Phantom Menace is not his prime like the title claims.

@In-sidiousvader exactly

TCW Maul may be stronger in the force, I'll admit that, but he lacks the combative feats of prime Maul.

As I said earlier. That novel may be Legends, but SoD is not. The novel states that Maul had grown in POWER, but I dont take statements as fact, unless it's backed by feats. Which it's not. *TPM* Maul would dominate in a fight due to superior combative showings. Sorry

@Marc Spector Talzin literally performed a ritual that restored all of Maul's power and dozens of sources have confirmed that he continued to grow in power. As a duelist/martial artist then TPM might be his prime

Jason Fry, author of Shadow Conspiracy, has clarified that the increase mentioned in the novel is an overall increase. TCW Maul > TPM Maul in all aspects pertaining to combat. Sorry.

Nah guys. Maul became "more powerful", "strengthened" and "a more worthy vessel for the Dark Side to fill with its power", but you see, he's actually worse in a fight. And we know this because Marc told us.

In-sidiousvader wrote:

Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Maul had grown more powerful since the last time he’d been in Sidious’s presence, before the Neimoidian invasion of Naboo had turned disastrous and Obi-Wan had bested him inside the Theed power core. His hermitage on Lotho Minor, his lessons on Unbara, his restoration by Mother Talzin, and his training of Savage had all strengthened him, made him a more worthy vessel for the Dark Side to fill with its power.
-Source : Darth Maul: Shadow Conspiracy

Darth Maul was a warrior in his prime never to be any better.
-The Menace Phantom Novel

Don't @ me boi.

Spoiler:

Bro if a 5 year old is taller than he's ever been before, that doesn't mean he isn't taller when he's 20...