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Latham2000Level Three
Was Savage Opress a Mary Sue?
October 21st 2019, 7:01 am
Someone on Comic Vine said that Savage was the original Rey that no one complained about and that his skill level is inconsistent and contradicts the wider lore.
The LostLevel Five
Re: Was Savage Opress a Mary Sue?
October 21st 2019, 7:18 am
Savage:
-Has Maul-esque Force potential
-Trained as a warrior his entire life
-Was alchemically enhanced and mentally warped into a dark side monster
-Received Sith training to the point he mastered the saberstaff, achieved a "crude mastery of the Force" and was considered a true Sith who could break the Rule of Two by OOU sources
Yes, he rose to prominence in what seemed like a short time, but all the groundwork was laid for him and he was basically given Force steroids + a crash course in Banite Sith training. Also, he can't be a Mary Sue because he is neither female nor lacking in realistic weaknesses (his lack of training opens him up to things like lightning or being disarmed/tripped up). But if the essence of your question is "can we justify Savage growing in power so quickly", again, I think the answer to that is yes.
Also, it's kind of funny how Savage is considered a mindless brute who loses to Plo Koon but simultaneously a Mary Sue.
-Has Maul-esque Force potential
-Trained as a warrior his entire life
-Was alchemically enhanced and mentally warped into a dark side monster
-Received Sith training to the point he mastered the saberstaff, achieved a "crude mastery of the Force" and was considered a true Sith who could break the Rule of Two by OOU sources
Yes, he rose to prominence in what seemed like a short time, but all the groundwork was laid for him and he was basically given Force steroids + a crash course in Banite Sith training. Also, he can't be a Mary Sue because he is neither female nor lacking in realistic weaknesses (his lack of training opens him up to things like lightning or being disarmed/tripped up). But if the essence of your question is "can we justify Savage growing in power so quickly", again, I think the answer to that is yes.
Also, it's kind of funny how Savage is considered a mindless brute who loses to Plo Koon but simultaneously a Mary Sue.
Master AzrongerModerator
Re: Was Savage Opress a Mary Sue?
October 21st 2019, 9:01 am
No, he's not a Mary Sue because he's not female.
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BreakofDawnLevel Seven
Re: Was Savage Opress a Mary Sue?
October 21st 2019, 9:36 am
You mean a "Gary Stu", and no, he's not.
The Adventurous JediLevel Seven
Re: Was Savage Opress a Mary Sue?
October 21st 2019, 12:03 pm
ILS wrote:Savage:
-Has Maul-esque Force potential
-Trained as a warrior his entire life
-Was alchemically enhanced and mentally warped into a dark side monster
-Received Sith training to the point he mastered the saberstaff, achieved a "crude mastery of the Force" and was considered a true Sith who could break the Rule of Two by OOU sources
Yes, he rose to prominence in what seemed like a short time, but all the groundwork was laid for him and he was basically given Force steroids + a crash course in Banite Sith training. Also, he can't be a Mary Sue because he is neither female nor lacking in realistic weaknesses (his lack of training opens him up to things like lightning or being disarmed/tripped up). But if the essence of your question is "can we justify Savage growing in power so quickly", again, I think the answer to that is yes.
Also, it's kind of funny how Savage is considered a mindless brute who loses to Plo Koon but simultaneously a Mary Sue.
DarthSkywalker0
Re: Was Savage Opress a Mary Sue?
November 1st 2019, 12:16 am
Well, I don't think the term serves a character with Savage's role. For me, a Mary Sue is less externally related and more related to a character having no want vs need. Savage has some level of internal conflict, but his characterization is pretty sparse, so I would hesitate to label him with that title.
SithSauceLevel One
Re: Was Savage Opress a Mary Sue?
November 10th 2019, 5:14 pm
the term mary sue describes a character who is hyper good at everything, who has no flaws or obstacles to go through.
Savage doesn't fall under that description, therefore he isn't a mary sue. Quite simple.
Savage doesn't fall under that description, therefore he isn't a mary sue. Quite simple.
EmperorCaedusLevel Three
Re: Was Savage Opress a Mary Sue?
November 12th 2019, 6:49 pm
Azronger wrote:No, he's not a Mary Sue because he's not female.
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