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ROTS General Grievous vs. Ulic Qel Droma Empty ROTS General Grievous vs. Ulic Qel Droma

on October 4th 2020, 12:15 pm
Same circumstances as the Utapau fight in ROTS

Round 1: Sabers only
Round 2: All out

who wins
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on October 4th 2020, 12:29 pm
Ulic
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on October 4th 2020, 1:10 pm
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GG stomps
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on October 4th 2020, 3:32 pm
Grievous in a stomp unless Ulic pulls out some strong esoterics (which he frankly isn't known for)
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on October 4th 2020, 4:49 pm
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Grievous obliterates


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on October 4th 2020, 6:00 pm
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Scrap that, Grievous calls in Skorr who wins the fight for him
BigMouthPrick
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on October 4th 2020, 6:27 pm
Nobody stomps here. GG might win sabers but loses in all-out.
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on October 4th 2020, 7:42 pm
Ulic one-shots in all-out and wins a hard fight in sabers only.
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on October 4th 2020, 8:49 pm
@CuckedCurry wrote:Don’t see how Ulic doesn’t just crumple him up into a metal ball like Mace Windu did 😏
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on October 5th 2020, 9:40 am
Ulic ragdolls in all out
he wins a duel semi narrowly
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on October 6th 2020, 3:04 pm
grievous dominates the sub kun character
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on October 6th 2020, 11:04 pm
I'd like to see literally any reason as to why Grievous is even a threat. Ulic is like nigh-canonically stronger than one month post-AOTC Kenobi before he gains 'tremendous' powers.

Better yet, Ulic has the lightsaber skill to stalemate Exar Kun who by all pieces of evidence has lightsaber skills better than ROTJ Vader, lmao.
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on October 24th 2020, 3:09 pm
Grievous, he hard pressed Dooku who is more powerful than AOTC Yoda
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on October 24th 2020, 8:16 pm
Dooku isn't > any Yoda, lol.
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on October 24th 2020, 8:18 pm
@LadyKulvax wrote:Dooku isn't > any Yoda, lol.

He’s equal to Yoda during attack of the clones, give it 3 years by revenge of the sith he will have grown more powerful than AOTC Yoda easily. Especially seeing as he was growing at a rate to catch up to Yoda in the first place
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on October 24th 2020, 9:13 pm
Dooku was never Yoda's equal in AOTC. Numerous quotes flex that Dooku was barely lucky to survive.
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on October 24th 2020, 9:17 pm
@LadyKulvax wrote:Dooku was never Yoda's equal in AOTC. Numerous quotes flex that Dooku was barely lucky to survive.

Can I see those quotes?
And it still doesn’t really matter too much if those quotes stating his he yodas equal don’t count cos he’s still a high 8 bordering on nine around mace windus level
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on October 24th 2020, 11:44 pm
@Vaelias wrote:
@LadyKulvax wrote:Dooku was never Yoda's equal in AOTC. Numerous quotes flex that Dooku was barely lucky to survive.

Can I see those quotes?
And it still doesn’t really matter too much if those quotes stating his he yodas equal don’t count cos he’s still a high 8 bordering on nine around mace windus level

When was he stated to be an 8, bordering on 9? And Mace is a 9, not an 8/9.
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on October 24th 2020, 11:59 pm
@BreakofDawn wrote:
@Vaelias wrote:
@LadyKulvax wrote:Dooku was never Yoda's equal in AOTC. Numerous quotes flex that Dooku was barely lucky to survive.

Can I see those quotes?
And it still doesn’t really matter too much if those quotes stating his he yodas equal don’t count cos he’s still a high 8 bordering on nine around mace windus level

When was he stated to be an 8, bordering on 9? And Mace is a 9, not an 8/9.

I’m pretty sure I remember the quote as saying Mace is 8 bordering on 9. And dooku wasn’t he was stated to be an 8 but we can assume it’s a high 8 as he can be scaled above Windu
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on October 25th 2020, 1:05 am
@Vaelias wrote:
@BreakofDawn wrote:
@Vaelias wrote:
@LadyKulvax wrote:Dooku was never Yoda's equal in AOTC. Numerous quotes flex that Dooku was barely lucky to survive.

Can I see those quotes?
And it still doesn’t really matter too much if those quotes stating his he yodas equal don’t count cos he’s still a high 8 bordering on nine around mace windus level

When was he stated to be an 8, bordering on 9? And Mace is a 9, not an 8/9.

I’m pretty sure I remember the quote as saying Mace is 8 bordering on 9. And dooku wasn’t he was stated to be an 8 but we can assume it’s a high 8 as he can be scaled above Windu
Fair points, just some critiques. The quote you're talking about is from Gillard in 2016. It has very little official standing and contradicts the Lucas-approved stance of Mace being a solid 9. Dooku also doesn't scale above Mace by around 19 BBY, when they're evenly matched. Office Mace is far stronger than Boz Pity Mace given a few more months of growth plus "cutting loose."
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on October 25th 2020, 1:11 am
@BreakofDawn wrote:
@Vaelias wrote:
@BreakofDawn wrote:
@Vaelias wrote:
@LadyKulvax wrote:Dooku was never Yoda's equal in AOTC. Numerous quotes flex that Dooku was barely lucky to survive.

Can I see those quotes?
And it still doesn’t really matter too much if those quotes stating his he yodas equal don’t count cos he’s still a high 8 bordering on nine around mace windus level

When was he stated to be an 8, bordering on 9? And Mace is a 9, not an 8/9.

I’m pretty sure I remember the quote as saying Mace is 8 bordering on 9. And dooku wasn’t he was stated to be an 8 but we can assume it’s a high 8 as he can be scaled above Windu
Fair points, just some critiques. The quote you're talking about is from Gillard in 2016. It has very little official standing and contradicts the Lucas-approved stance of Mace being a solid 9. Dooku also doesn't scale above Mace by around 19 BBY, when they're evenly matched. Office Mace is far stronger than Boz Pity Mace given a few more months of growth plus "cutting loose."

Can i c the quote saying Mace is a 9 plz?

Dooku can be scaled above mace because Dooku was states to be yodas equal before mace was, Mace was always stated as second to Yoda during episode 2 Dooku was stated to be his equal, Mace has not parity quotes to Yoda until episode 3
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on October 25th 2020, 12:17 pm
the kaleesh still wins hard
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on October 25th 2020, 12:57 pm
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@The lord of hunger wrote:the kaleesh still wins hard

reasons?
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on October 25th 2020, 5:09 pm
@Vaelias
Can i c the quote saying Mace is a 9 plz?

Sure. It's from the Making of Revenge of the Sith:

As they approach the end of the climactic battle between Obi-Wan and Anakin, Gillard explains how he's rated the various swordsmen: "On Attack of the Clones, I had to give them levels," he says. "Sidious is a level nine[out of ten]. On this film, Obi is eight-he's moved up-Anakin is a nine; Mace is a nine, Yoda is a nine. They're up with Sidious.
Once you get to eight, you have a Pandora's box. You could go any way with it. The way not to go is the dark side. But it would tempt you, because that would jump you right past the others. So you need to arrive at level eight at the right age-not as young as Anakin. That young, the dark side is just too tempting."


Dooku can be scaled above mace because Dooku was states to be yodas equal before mace was,

Mace also has some. Like Dooku, both have sources contradicting this.

Mace was always stated as second to Yoda during episode 2 Dooku was stated to be his equal, Mace has not parity quotes to Yoda until episode 3

Fair enough. However, Mace is clearly operating at a similar level to Dooku by Obsession.
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on October 25th 2020, 9:04 pm
There's some speculation that Mace only became a 9 after he used Vaapad and that Anakin was an only an 8 at the start of the movie.
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