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July 12th 2020, 8:53 am
SS - Darth Baras (xolthol) vs. Darth Bane (Azronger) Baras_vs_Bane

Darth Baras as of Act III of the Sith Warrior storyline with the amplification from the Entity. Darth Bane as of Darth Bane - Dynasty of Evil.

There will be three posts per side. The first post, not including response or sourcing quotes, will have a maximum of 10,000 original characters, the second 17,500, and the third 25,000. Each debater will have a 5,000 finisher. The verdict will be decided by a panel of moderators.

This thread follows all default stipulations listed in the "Guidelines" thread. Additional rules are as follows:

  • Feats take precedent over directly and indisputably contradicted statements.
  • Quotes are binding and have no expiration date unless directly or subtextually contradicted. For the latter, such a case must be made within the debate itself.
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July 12th 2020, 9:03 am
BARAS
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July 12th 2020, 9:21 am
@CuckedCurry wrote:BARAS

This. Also, TAEP.
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July 12th 2020, 10:40 am
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July 12th 2020, 11:26 am
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July 12th 2020, 1:17 pm
@Master Azronger Awesome banner. I will try to post my opener in the coming week
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July 19th 2020, 10:46 am
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- An emBARASsing superiority leading to a BANEful issue -

You have no idea of my power!

I- Bane showing

In Dynasty of Evil Bane went to Prakith where he faced the Andeddu's cultists.

Bane on Prakith:

At that moment, the hatch burst open and beings he assumed were cultists began to pour out—nearly two dozen in total, all armed with vibroblades and clubs. Despite their numbers, Bane instantly realized they posed no real threat. Though they worshiped one of the ancient Sith, these were ordinary men and women. The Force did not flow through their veins; they were nothing but fodder. Their fury might be fueled by the dark side energies emanating from the temple, but Bane could just as easily draw upon the same power, letting it build until he unleashed it against his foes. A decade earlier he would have eagerly engaged them in physical combat, his body pumped full of adrenaline released by the orbalisks that had covered his flesh. Swept up in a mindless rage, he would have carved a bloody swath through their numbers, hacking and slashing at his helpless enemies while relying on the impenetrable shells of the orbalisks to protect him from their blows. But the orbalisks were gone now. He was no longer invulnerable to physical attacks, yet he was also no longer a slave to the primal bloodlust that used to overwhelm him. Free from the parasitic infestation, he was able to dispatch his enemies using the Force rather than relying solely on brute strength. Bane extinguished his weapon and stood perfectly still, allowing the swarming horde to close in on him as he gathered his strength. He called upon the power of the temple itself, feeding on it to bolster his own abilities as he created a deadly field around his body. It began as a tight circle, but quickly spread outward until it extended to a radius of ten meters, with the Sith Lord at the center. The air within the circumference of the field suddenly became darker, as if the light from the red sun above had been suddenly dimmed. Cloaked in the shadowy gloom, Bane simply held his ground against the enemy assault. The front ranks of onrushing cultists shrieked in agony as they entered the field, their life essence violently sucked out of their bodies, aging them a thousand years in only a few seconds. Muscles and tendons atrophied instantaneously; their skin withered and shrank, pulling tight across their bones. Eyes and tongues shriveled, turning them into mummified husks before their desiccated flesh crumbled away, leaving only skeletal remains and a few strands of hair. The effort of creating an aura of pure dark side energy would have quickly exhausted even Bane. However, as his enemies fell he was able to draw their essence into himself, feeding on their energies to revitalize his fading strength and reinforcing the field in preparation for the next wave of victims. The mass of cultists continued to charge forward. Those in the middle ranks had seen the fate of their companions and tried desperately to stop. But the momentum of those behind swept them forward into the field to suffer the same agonizing death as those who had already fallen. Only those at the very rear of the crowd were able to see the danger and pull up in time to save themselves. Of the more than twenty cultists who had attacked him, only a handful were able to save themselves. They stood at a safe distance, hovering on the edge of the deadly field with weapons raised, uncertain how to proceed.

Based on this extract we have three interresting points:

  1. Bane was amped by a DS nexus and gathered his strength
  2. Despite this Bane force reserve were quickly drained
  3. Bane killed normal people not force users.


(1)

Their fury might be fueled by the dark side energies emanating from the temple, but Bane could just as easily draw upon the same power, letting it build until he unleashed it against his foes
[...]
he gathered his strength. He called upon the power of the temple itself, feeding on it to bolster his own abilities


(2)

The effort of creating an aura of pure dark side energy would have quickly exhausted even Bane

(3)

these were ordinary men and women. The Force did not flow through their veins; they were nothing but fodder

II- Lord Draahg power

Let me introduce to you Lord Draahg, apprentice of Darth Baras. On Corellia, he faced the Sith Warrior and begin the confrontation by using a death field (1) on Darth Vowrawn which would have kill (2) the later if the Wrath didn't stop Draahg.



(1):
The Entity: "Truth.The death field. Is powered. By the machinery. Of Draahg's"
[...]
The Entity: "The death field. Dies. With Draagh."

(2):
Lord Draagh: "In minutes, the great Darth Vowrawn will disintegrate"
[...]
Wrath: "Can Lord Draagh be defeated before Vowrawn is destroyed?"
The Entity: "Can. Is certain. But will. Is not"
[...]
Darth Vowrawn: "I fully expect to die."

From this confrontation we must note two interresting points:

  1. Lord Draagh was able to face the Wrath despite being actively using a death field.
  2. Lord Draagh was facing a powerful force user.


III-Comparison of feats and inherent conclusion

Lets compare the two feats:

-> Bane draw on a DS nexus while Draagh wasn't amp by an external source.

-> Bane Force reserve are quickly consume by the death field showing that he wasn't able to sustain it for long if his force reserve weren't replenish by the death of the cultist. At the opposite, Draagh need to be killed in order to stop the death field proving that he can maintained it with little to no effort.

-> Bane was facing non-force-sensitive while Draagh use its death field against nothing less than a Dark Councilor. This explain why Bane was able to instantly kill the cultists when Baras' apprentice was only destroying the force barrier of his opponent.  

Based on this two similar (1) application of the Force and taking into account that Bane have two advantage we can deduce that Lord Draagh is the more powerful of the two at the very least by having insanely bigger Force reserve than Bane.

(1):
We can clearly compare this two application of power because:

  • They have the same denomination: "Death field" (The Entity) and "deadly field" (DOE)
  • They have a similar effect on the body of their victim:
    "the great Darth Vowrawn will disintegrate" (Lord Draagh) and "their life essence violently sucked out of their bodies, aging them a thousand years in only a few seconds. Muscles and tendons atrophied instantaneously; their skin withered and shrank, pulling tight across their bones. Eyes and tongues shriveled, turning them into mummified husks before their desiccated flesh crumbled away, leaving only skeletal remains and a few strands of hair. "


Knowing that Darth Baras won't make his apprentice more powerful than himself (sith philosophy) it is certain that Baras is more powerful than Lord Draagh.

Therefore we have a clear and precise comparison allowing me to scale Darth Baras above Darth Bane by a big margin.

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July 19th 2020, 11:08 am
Short but sweet. Nice post.
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July 19th 2020, 1:54 pm
Sweet post <33
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October 3rd 2020, 3:06 am
@Master Azronger When do you plan to respond ?
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October 3rd 2020, 7:14 am
Soon-ish, don't worry.

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January 2nd 2021, 1:25 pm
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January 2nd 2021, 2:41 pm
Baras destroys hundreds of Banes
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January 2nd 2021, 2:42 pm
I think Az quit
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January 2nd 2021, 2:42 pm
@Vengean wrote:Baras destroys hundreds of Banes
Bro Baras is Sirak level
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January 2nd 2021, 7:20 pm
Bane probably rapes Baras
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January 2nd 2021, 7:24 pm
Where did Az go anyway? I haven't seen him online since I got here a month or two ago.
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January 2nd 2021, 7:51 pm
Az quit indefinitely, but he may return at some point.

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January 3rd 2021, 4:48 am
Ok. I will wait until his return
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January 4th 2021, 8:21 pm
Somebody call The SVU, Bane "rapes" Baras.
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Also can we stop using the word rape so flippantly.
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January 4th 2021, 8:34 pm
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I suck
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January 4th 2021, 9:40 pm
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@Darth Chocolateis wrote:Somebody call The SVU, Bane "rapes" Baras.
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Also can we stop using the word rape so flippantly.
*SUV
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January 5th 2021, 2:51 pm
@lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:
@Darth Chocolateis wrote:Somebody call The SVU, Bane "rapes" Baras.
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Also can we stop using the word rape so flippantly.
*SUV

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January 5th 2021, 2:58 pm
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@Darth Chocolateis wrote:Somebody call The SVU, Bane "rapes" Baras.
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Also can we stop using the word rape so flippantly.

You and Vaelas are the first people in years to say _____ rapes, you’re creating your own problem fishmonger
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January 5th 2021, 5:29 pm
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@Tybalt wrote:
@lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:
@Darth Chocolateis wrote:Somebody call The SVU, Bane "rapes" Baras.
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Also can we stop using the word rape so flippantly.
*SUV

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Victims_Unit
imagine not knowing what an SUV is smh
ps im a CSI person myself, but u do u.
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