Exar Kun vs Sheev Palpatine

Supremacy quotes are ignored, Malak quote is likewise ignored, etc etc etc fight.

For reference this is TFU Sheev

Sheev wins

Probably Kun

sheev wins

At threadstarter, does this include supremacy quotes for Kun too? And does this exclude comparisons through non-direct means - Banite and other Ancient scaling for example?

This is the debate of the century.

Sidious kills him with a Force Storm from a remote location, fantastic thread IG.

TFU Sheev actively uses force storms?

IG explain the parameters of the thread before any debating happens please. It's very pertinent to who people decide imo.

Quorian Debatist wrote:At threadstarter, does this include supremacy quotes for Kun too? And does this exclude comparisons through non-direct means - Banite and other Ancient scaling for example?

IG wrote:TFU Sheev actively uses force storms?

Well I don't think he passively uses them.

ILS wrote:

IG wrote:TFU Sheev actively uses force storms?

Well I don't think he passively uses them.

Sidious just wants to be like his idol, Thor.

TFU Sheev without his supremacy quotes is in a 'desperate' battle against Galen Marek 'screaming in lascivious pain' despite Marek being 'no match' for him. Almost seems like he can't properly capitalise on his superior power against even Marek.

Worse, he got fatally wounded and bullied by Sith who are all monumentally weaker than Kun just after ANH.

I'll take the one who is superior to BFC!Luke if not Specter!Luke.