TFU Shaak Ti vs Qui Gon Jinn

HellfireUnit wrote:Ti slaps.

HellfireUnit wrote:Ti slaps.

Blade_of_Dorin wrote:Ti sucks. Jinn wins.

SithSauce wrote:And I genuinely don't find Jinn's performance against Maul that impressive in all honesty.

HellfireUnit wrote:Contending with Magnaguards is impressive since even Anakin gets incapacitated by few of them and many struggle against a single guard.

SithSauce wrote:No I hold TPM Maul very high, but he is easily the weakest incarnation of the character. And Qui Gon while holding is own was struggling to gain an advantage over him, even with the help of Obi Wan

Vorpal Blade wrote:

HellfireUnit wrote:Contending with Magnaguards is impressive since even Anakin gets incapacitated by few of them and many struggle against a single guard.

There's different types of magnaguard though. They're not all the same.

Greysentinel365 wrote:Ti only ever battled two or three at once. Also Ti is noted for group fighting. So her skill in that area is disproportionate to her 1v1 skill. This is demonstrated by her being stymied by a single Magnaguard for minutes yet being able to fight 2 or 3.

This is without even touching that each Magnaguard is different due to their learning abilities and their enslavement to form. Ti's Magnaguard feat just doesn't hold up to scrutiny

Where has it been stated that Ti's capability of group fighting? Ti was a user of Makashi and Ataru, solely focused on single combat.

Shaak Ti is one of the best Jedi fighters in group combat.
Star Wars Character Encyclopedia

Shaak Ti was a formidable combat specialist, expert in melee fighting in chaotic and densly packed conditions.


- Fact File SHA 1


The arena battle of Geonosis was Shaak Ti's kind of fight. 


- Fact File SHA 3

Her Makashi style is comparable to Dooku:

About her Magnaguard feat, she single handedly defeats waves of them

Dooku had taught Grievous well, and Grievous had taught his elite well. Coupled with Dooku's coaching, their programming in the seven classic forms of lightsaber dueling - in the Jedi arts - made them lethal opponents. But they were not invincible, not even Grievous, because they could be confused by unpredictability, and they had no understanding of finesse. A player of dejarik could memorize all the classic openings and countermoves, and still not be a master of the game. Defeat often came at the hands of less experienced players who knew nothing about the traditional strategies. A professional fighter, a combat artist, could be defeated by a cantina brawler who knew nothing about form but everything about ending a conflict quickly, without a thought to winning gracefully or elegantly. Enslavement to form opened one to defeat by the unforeseen. This was often the failing of trained duelists, and it would be the failing of the Jedi Order.

- Labyrinth of Evil

Even someone as skilled as Kenobi is outmatched by Magnaguards

but it was not Obi-Wan who would defeat them; Obi-Wan wasn't even fighting. He was only a vessel, emptied of self. The Force, shaped by his skill and guided by his clarity of mind, fought through him. 


- RotS Novel