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The EllimistLevel Five
Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 5:52 am
This is Anakin when he's not holding back against Dooku on the Invisible Hand, but not in his "Zone" state. Disregard dun moch.
1. Force
2. Sabers
3. All-out
1. Force
2. Sabers
3. All-out
HeartoftheForceLevel Two
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 6:03 am
Dooku can put up a very good fight but will lose. Despite being exhausted beforehand Dooku managed a prolonged fight with TK exchanges with Zonakin. He should be able to do the same here.
NevesYtneves (DC77)Level Seven
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 6:25 am
Anakin all rounds but Dooku brings him hell first.
MasterCilghalLevel Three
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 6:27 am
Anakin, it will be more difficult for him than it was on the IH, obviously.
KingofBladesLevel Three
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 10:58 am
DC77 (Reborn) wrote:Anakin all rounds but Dooku brings him hell first.
IGLevel Four
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 11:06 am
Doesn’t it say that it isn’t Zonakin? Dooku should take this.
- KingofBladesLevel Three
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 11:07 am
Anakin was winning in his base state prior to Dooku's use of dun moch per the novel.IdrisianGraecus wrote:Doesn’t it say that it isn’t Zonakin? Dooku should take this.
- IGLevel Four
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 11:12 am
But it’s Vjun Dooku... who’s above base dooku....
- KingofBladesLevel Three
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 11:23 am
True. I just don't think the amp will be enough.IdrisianGraecus wrote:But it’s Vjun Dooku... who’s above base dooku....
The Adventurous JediLevel Seven
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 11:33 am
Why not? It's made clear in YDR that Vjun is an incredibly potent nexus, and Dooku was close to base Anakin.
- KingofBladesLevel Three
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 11:43 am
Since he couldn't defeat a Yoda who was being hindered to the same degree as Dooku was being amped. I'm not convinced hindered Yoda is above base RotS Anakin. And regardless of how close they may be initially in this fight, Dooku is going to run out of energy deflecting Anakin's blows.NotAA3 wrote:Why not? It's made clear in YDR that Vjun is an incredibly potent nexus, and Dooku was close to base Anakin.
- The Adventurous JediLevel Seven
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 12:07 pm
@KingofBlades
Except Vjun amped every other Jedi to set foot on it in YDR (e.g. Anakin, Whie and Scout). Yoda is never mentioned as hindered by the nexus in the novel, so there's no reason to believe he is unless you can substantiate it with actual evidence from the novel.
And I'm not convinced Yoda was hindered.
What happens if he finishes Anakin before that happens?
Since he couldn't defeat a Yoda who was being hindered to the same degree as Dooku was being amped.
Except Vjun amped every other Jedi to set foot on it in YDR (e.g. Anakin, Whie and Scout). Yoda is never mentioned as hindered by the nexus in the novel, so there's no reason to believe he is unless you can substantiate it with actual evidence from the novel.
I'm not convinced hindered Yoda is above base RotS Anakin.
And I'm not convinced Yoda was hindered.
And regardless of how close they may be initially in this fight, Dooku is going to run out of energy deflecting Anakin's blows.
What happens if he finishes Anakin before that happens?
Nute_ChethrayModerator
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 12:42 pm
I'd give Vjun Dooku a slight advantage
- KingofBladesLevel Three
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 1:10 pm
@NotAA3
"The Count's blade was quick as a viper striking. Among the other Jedi, perhaps only Mace Windu would have been his equal on neutral ground: but here on Vjun, steeped in the dark side, his bladework was malice made visible—wickedness cut in red light."
"The Count's blade was quick as a viper striking. Among the other Jedi, perhaps only Mace Windu would have been his equal on neutral ground: but here on Vjun, steeped in the dark side, his bladework was malice made visible—wickedness cut in red light."
[size=34]Source: Yoda: Dark Rendezvous[/size]
This makes it seem as though this amp was only a DS amp otherwise the statement about neutral ground makes no sense. Though your point about the other jedi being amped by is valid so now I'm not sure what to think about how Vjun works as a nexus.
What happens if he finishes Anakin before that happens?
Considering the ridiculous rate at which Dooku was getting fatigued prior to his use of Dun Moch, I don't think that would happen. Dooku couldn't even offer a counter attack. I think the degree to which base Anakin was dominating Dooku is being downplayed. This wasn't an evenly fought match. This was Anakin dominating Dooku. Which is why I don't think the amp will be enough since the gap between base Anakin and Dooku isn't as small as you believe it to be
- MasterCilghalLevel Three
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 2:11 pm
NotAA3 wrote:Except Vjun amped every other Jedi to set foot on it in YDR (e.g. Anakin, Whie and Scout). Yoda is never mentioned as hindered by the nexus in the novel, so there's no reason to believe he is unless you can substantiate it with actual evidence from the novel.
xoltholLevel Five
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 5:39 pm
Can see a case made for both.
- The Adventurous JediLevel Seven
Re: Vjun Dooku vs. IH Anakin
September 21st 2019, 7:14 pm
@MasterCilghal @KingofBlades
I'm might write out a lengthier post on this, so I don't know when I'll get down to it. If I've not responded by Wednesday tag me to remind me.
I'm might write out a lengthier post on this, so I don't know when I'll get down to it. If I've not responded by Wednesday tag me to remind me.
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