Darth Malak vs. Darth Vader

BreakofDawn wrote:I wasn't talking about ROTS Anakin. I was talking about AOTC. I assumed IG was talking about that.

I was referring to ROTS

In which case, Vader is still > him but it's a lot more debatable.

BreakofDawn wrote:In which case, Vader is still > him but it's a lot more debatable.

still vader clowns malak 

BreakofDawn wrote:In which case, Vader is still > him but it's a lot more debatable.

Is this Anakin pre-IH or post-IH?

i feel like this shouldve been said, so i guess ill say it now, if it hasnt already been said

We know vader grew literally massively in power from ROTS (post Mustafar, of course) to ROTJ, and iirc, the most recent statement (from lucas himself) about anakin losing a lot of his power/potential and having only 80% of sheev's power comes from a 2005 interview, and i believe that he is in an interview regard the ROTS movie. that would mean that post Mustafar Vader is much weaker than anakin, and 80% of sheev simply/only by 19 BBY. So either Vader didnt grow in power at all between 19 bby to ROTJ, or he did, and is now not fodder to anakin anymore. there is no way in hell Vader at his prime is that much weaker than anakin. Making a case for vader being within anakin's range of power is honestly not that hard. It gets on my nerves that people still think that Vader <<< KFV. Sorry for the rant

Vader beats Malak convincingly

IG (Exists) wrote:Malak annihilates.

Based on what?

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:i feel like this shouldve been said, so i guess ill say it now, if it hasnt already been said

We know vader grew literally massively in power from ROTS (post Mustafar, of course) to ROTJ, and iirc, the most recent statement (from lucas himself) about anakin losing a lot of his power/potential and having only 80% of sheev's power comes from a 2005 interview, and i believe that he is in an interview regard the ROTS movie. that would mean that post Mustafar Vader is much weaker than anakin, and 80% of sheev simply/only by 19 BBY. So either Vader didnt grow in power at all between 19 bby to ROTJ, or he did, and is now not fodder to anakin anymore. there is no way in hell Vader at his prime is that much weaker than anakin. Making a case for vader being within anakin's range of power is honestly not that hard. It gets on my nerves that people still think that Vader <<< KFV. Sorry for the rant

i held the same opinion azronger some time ago during his debate with ant in the vader vs revan cav made a excellent post about vader s power

i think agreeing with other people doenst work as well as drawing ur own opinions.

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:i think agreeing with other people doenst work as well as drawing ur own opinions.

its being my opinion since i join debates i always held vader >> anakin

remember when i said that Yoda and sheev are supreme lords over here? Dark side anakin is the same. if u say that again, i cannot guarantee that they wont ban u lmaooo

I’m curious if either of you two would be willing to SS Malak vs. Vader.

i would. seems like fun.

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:remember when i said that Yoda and sheev are supreme lords over here? Dark side anakin is the same. if u say that again, i cannot guarantee that they wont ban u lmaooo

why D:

thats one of those no-no topics.

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:thats one of those no-no topics.

D:

@lorenzo.r.2nd: @“the lord of hunger” If you two are so sure that Vader > Malak, would you be willing to SS it?

i just said yes lol

lets see how lorenzo handles it for me i already have my opinion and i clarify it on the vine good luck lorenzo boi :3

Didn’t see, my bad. I’ll make thread then. You open? Or should I?

i can if u want me to. first things first tho, what categories will we be discussing? and is there something u think we can agree on first, before we waste a ton of time going over it in needless discussions?

There aren’t categories lmao. It’s literally who would win in a fight. In an SS thread.

IG (Exists) wrote:

BreakofDawn wrote:When was that ever said?

"Luke is a 2, Vader is a 4", etc.

It says Vader "was" a 4 during his fight with Ben, and that Luke "is now" a 2 in ESB. The quote doesn't comment on Vader's power as of ESB.

i dont think u understand what im saying here. say i were to prove that vader is more powerful, but u won the debate by proving that anything aside from power, malak is above vader. u would need different categories to do that. what should we focus on? skill, power, strength, speed, what else?

It’s just proving they’d win in a fight. Nothing else. You debate all categories basically. You get to pick and choose in your post. Read some other SS’s.