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on Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:13 am
TPM versions of both. Both are bloodlusted. The battle takes place in the office of the Supreme Chancellor.
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on Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:14 am
Yoda. More powerful and MM has never been used on combat ready Force users, let alone one as powerful as Yoda. He's also much more skilled.
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on Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:17 am
Not so sure anymore, I can see scenarios in which either one could win
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on Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:02 am
Yoda.
Shioz
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on Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:54 am
Both have a chance.
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on Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:46 pm
Yoda ~ Rots Sheev >> Post Boost Sheev >= Plagueis
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on Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:19 pm
TPM Yoda < Asajj Ventress.

Yoda loses here.
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on Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:30 pm
Yoda.
EmperorCaedus
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on Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:39 pm
There's no feasible way Plagueis wins unless under circumstances in his favor, Yoda smacks.
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on Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:42 pm
yoda (this has been done already i think)
yoda wins as of TPM/AoTC/RoTS ,,,
plagueis is a bit below PT yoda .
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on Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:19 pm
@Azronger wrote:TPM Yoda < Asajj Ventress.

Yoda loses here.
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on Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:54 pm
@BreakofDawn wrote:
@Azronger wrote:TPM Yoda < Asajj Ventress.

Yoda loses here.
Yoda vs Darth Plagueis E9e10
It's bait
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on Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:17 am
Just now I noticed that this is TPM Yoda. In this case, Plagueis definitely wins.
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on Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:35 am
I disagree. I don't see Yoda growing between TPM-RotS, instead him getting older and weaker everyday.
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on Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:01 am
It’s confirmed he grew. In any case, I say Plagueis since Yoda might be a lot more prone to slipping up his defences, allowing Plagueis to kill him via MM.
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on Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:21 am
SomeAncientPower wrote:It’s confirmed he grew. In any case, I say Plagueis since Yoda might be a lot more prone to slipping up his defences, allowing Plagueis to kill him via MM.
MM isn't a sure-fire way. In fact, if he uses it and he fails, he is finished.

TPM Sidious is Plagueis's superior

TPM Sidious grows significantly in power until RotS. 

Yoda and RotS Sidious are stated as equals, Yoda beat him with a lightsaber, while Sidious ended it with the force, they stalemated

Thus, Yoda ~ RotS Sidious >> TPM Sidious > Plagueis
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on Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:16 am
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MM should be useable against someone if they create a gap in their Force wall, since midichlorians are physical organelles. All Plagueis has to do to initiate the progress is send an instruction.

Sidious and Plagueis as of TPM are comparable in power, and Sidious can only use his TPM level power without deteriorating his body (or rather expediting it). So the Sidious who fights Yoda in sabers during ROTS is the same Sidious from TPM in terms of dueling (though likely to have a lot more reserves). And this is TPM Yoda. So if Plagueis can at least compete with Yoda in dueling, he still has a chance, especially since he'll be bloodlusted.

Granted, I'm not entirely sure how bloodlusted Yoda would fight, but since we're taking away his practice from the Clone Wars, I don't see why he's not a good match for Plagueis.
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on Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:52 pm
SomeAncientPower wrote:@EmperorCaedus

MM should be useable against someone if they create a gap in their Force wall, since midichlorians are physical organelles. All Plagueis has to do to initiate the progress is send an instruction.

Sidious and Plagueis as of TPM are comparable in power, and Sidious can only use his TPM level power without deteriorating his body (or rather expediting it). So the Sidious who fights Yoda in sabers during ROTS is the same Sidious from TPM in terms of dueling (though likely to have a lot more reserves). And this is TPM Yoda. So if Plagueis can at least compete with Yoda in dueling, he still has a chance, especially since he'll be bloodlusted.

Granted, I'm not entirely sure how bloodlusted Yoda would fight, but since we're taking away his practice from the Clone Wars, I don't see why he's not a good match for Plagueis.
1. Plagueis has never implemented MM into any one of his fights, so it would be hard for you to gauge how effective MM would be on Yoda, who is described as the Light's most powerful being ever up until that point. Plagueis implementing MM into his battle with Yoda would be extremely risky, and opens him up to further counter attacks from Yoda.

2. Sidious as of TPM was less powerful due to either hiding his power, or just being less powerful to his RotS iteration. There is evidence to support the ladder because Sidious grew in power due to the destruction of the Jedi, while Yoda was still clouded by the "screams of Jedi." There is also no evidence supporting that Yoda had a significant change in power at all. 

3. A blood lusted Yoda would fight much like a blood lusted Luke. After Luke thought Lumiya killed her wife Mara, his power level went significantly down, as shown in his duel with Lumiya. Plagueis might be a threat, but Yoda would deal with him effectively than most.
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on Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:05 pm
@BreakofDawn wrote:
@Azronger wrote:TPM Yoda < Asajj Ventress.

Yoda loses here.
Yoda vs Darth Plagueis E9e10

No, but I plan to
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on Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:07 pm
@EmperorCaedus wrote:
@BreakofDawn wrote:
@Azronger wrote:TPM Yoda < Asajj Ventress.

Yoda loses here.
Yoda vs Darth Plagueis E9e10
It's bait

Genuinely insulted you think I'd use something like that as bait.
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on Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:13 pm
Unquestionably Yoda
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on Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:15 pm
SomeAncientPower wrote:It’s confirmed he grew. In any case, I say Plagueis since Yoda might be a lot more prone to slipping up his defences, allowing Plagueis to kill him via MM.

Can you share the source where it is confirmed that he grew?
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on Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:00 pm
Yoda.
EmperorCaedus
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on Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:51 pm
Yoda, canonically.
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on Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:08 pm
@EmperorCaedus wrote:Yoda, canonically.
Did canon ever say that Yoda would defeat the Plagueis in a duel?
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