Shadow of Revan runs the gauntlet

- Shrevan is in his prime every battle
- Morals off
- All out

R1: Zayne Carrick
R2: Jaden Korr
R3: Exar Kun
R4: Kyle Katarn
R5: Darth Wyyrlock iii
R6: Darth Caedus
R7: Mace Windu
R8: Darish Vol
R9: Krayt Reborn
R10: Lord Nyax

stops at 10 based on the nyax hype. But I don't know much about him personally. Is Nyax capable of defending himself against an all out offensive force assault?

10 or clears. probably takes 2-3/10

Stops at Darish Vol

What version of Mace? If pre-ROTS he stops at 9 or 10. If ROTS, hard stop at Windu.

10 or clears

How is he beating a ROTS Sidious tier lightsaber and Force user?

Via his comparability to SWTOR Vitiate

KingofBlades wrote:Via his comparability to SWTOR Vitiate

...The comparability whereby about half a dozen other Force users who'd met the Emperor or sensed his power said he'd lose? He has no real comparability except to a Vitiate who was so badly weakened he had to flee across the galaxy to regain his strength instead of confronting the strike team despite Yavin's insane dark side nexus to help.

WalkingInCircles wrote:What version of Mace? If pre-ROTS he stops at 9 or 10. If ROTS, hard stop at Windu.

ROTS Windu

EmperorCaedus wrote:

WalkingInCircles wrote:What version of Mace? If pre-ROTS he stops at 9 or 10. If ROTS, hard stop at Windu.

ROTS Windu

Yeah, he hard stops at Mace then.

stops at RoTS mace windu

@WalkinginCircles To quote Ant:

No out-of-universe sources says Revan is no match to Vitiate. And every character commenting on the subject falls under one of the three categories:

A.) Explicitly profess to be speculating on Vitiate's full power,
B.) Never met Vitiate whatsoever,
C.) Only know Revan's power based off the Foundry battle.

Also, playing the Imperial side after knowing the events from the Republic side, it's obvious their commentary is deliberately slanted. For example, Nox says, "Even at his weakest, you are no match for the Emperor," despite the Hero defeating a far more powerful Vitiate than the one Nox is describing.

Moreover, for what it's worth, the game developers described SOR as "The player is pulled into this struggle of two of the most powerful Force users, like ever, in the history of the Old Republic, if not beyond - Revan and the Emperor," months after the expansion release. Describing it as an active struggle between two supremely powerful Force users doesn't exactly reek of this "The Emperor is far more powerful than Revan" idea.

No out-of-universe sources says Revan is no match to Vitiate. And every character commenting on the subject falls under one of the three categories:

A.) Explicitly profess to be speculating on Vitiate's full power,

Marr has previously met the Emperor, IIRC.

B.) Never met Vitiate whatsoever,

Per the game, all of the Force users felt Vitiate's presence and his power. Hell, even when they were right in front of the Temple he was hiding in they still said he wasn't strong enough.

C.) Only know Revan's power based off the Foundry battle.

...You can literally sense a character's general power level by being in their vicinity. 

And to debunk this theory, even spirit Revan claimed SoR Revan couldn't beat an awakened Vitiate:

"He must be stopped. His fury will only strengthen the Emperor, not destroy him."

And yes, this confirms SoR Revan ~ catatonic Vitiate, which really isn't saying much considering that Vitiate wasn't even strong enough to assume a physical form and was more powerful as of ROTE due to the conflict from Yavin awakening him.

Also, playing the Imperial side after knowing the events from the Republic side, it's obvious their commentary is deliberately slanted. For example, Nox says, "Even at his weakest, you are no match for the Emperor," despite the Hero defeating a far more powerful Vitiate than the one Nox is describing.

Nox's was clearly hyperbole, so I don't know why that's relevant. The HoT's was not, not was the EW, both of whom encountered Vitiate at a fraction of his full power and who had been exposed to his presence in the past, and thus would have a sense of his current power level. The Vitiate the HoT faced was crippled by the deaths of his puppets, the Children, and having his plans completely disrupted. 

Moreover, for what it's worth, the game developers described SOR as "The player is pulled into this struggle of two of the most powerful Force users, like ever, in the history of the Old Republic, if not beyond - Revan and the Emperor," months after the expansion release. Describing it as an active struggle between two supremely powerful Force users doesn't exactly reek of this "The Emperor is far more powerful than Revan" idea.

So at most you can scale Revan off a catatonic, near-death Vitiate who had absolutely no influence whatsoever. He literally needed Revan to start a war just to awaken and flee the planet. How is this remotely comparable to ROTS Sidious?

stops at caedus for sure

Revan losing to anybody pre Vol is laughable. Vol might take 1-2/10, Krayt loses most, Nyax is a loss for Shrevan tho.

IdrisianGraecus wrote:Revan losing to anybody pre Vol is laughable. Vol might take 1-2/10, Krayt loses most, Nyax is a loss for Shrevan tho.

It's really not. He's stopping at prime Windu no matter how you look at it. I agree that he beats anyone before that, though.

why is jacen under windu in the first place?

I will respond hopefully sometime tomorrow

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:why is jacen under windu in the first place?

Because Jacen isn't a tier 9.

Yeah Caedus is probably somewhere between RotS Kenobi and Dooku

lol @ passing windu

how is caedus not a tier 9?????

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:how is caedus not a tier 9?????

By virtue of not having a single feat putting him in the tier 9 bracket with Mace, Yoda, KFV/MFV and Sidious.

yeah, but neither does mace, unless he gets a mega amp, which allows him to beat a drained sidious, who may very well have been holding back....