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Exar Kun is the most formidable student Vodo Siosk-Baas, who had taught Jedi for six centuries, ever had:

Vodo Siosk-Baas, Tales of the Jedi Omnibus Vol.2 wrote:Exar Kun, you are the most formidable student I have ever had…

Exar Kun as a Jedi was even more fearsome than the legendary Darth Vader, per the Editor of all Dark Horse Star Wars comics Dan Thorsland:

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Freedon Nadd states that even as early as the death of King Ommin, Exar Kun was greater than Ulic Qel-Droma:

Freedon Nadd to Ulic Qel-Droma, Star Wars Omnibus: Tales of the Jedi Vol.2 wrote:"You. You will be one of the great ones and there is another greater than you."

Exar Kun produces such impact with his lightsaber blade in a duel with Sylvar that it can be heard from kilometers away:

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Exar Kun defeats his Master Vodo Siosk-Baas by overpowering his Force-imbued shaft:

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Power of the Jedi Sourcebook wrote:Kun was a master of lightsaber combat and had even bested Master Vodo’s quarterstaff during a sparring practice.

Jedi Academy Training Manual wrote:As the Jedi Watchman of Dantooine, Master Baas spends much of his time on the planet and trains multiple apprentices at a time. His strongest apprentice, however, is a young pupil named Exar Kun. Kun's skill with a lightsaber is so great that he claimed victory over his master many times when they sparred together.

Exar Kun travels to the tomb of Freedon Nadd and smashes through a thick wall of Beskar:

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Exar Kun travels to Korriban where he survives having his bones broken in hundreds of places:

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Exar Kun unleashes a galactic-scale Force Scream:

The New Essential Chronology wrote:Exar Kun let out a tremendous shriek that echoed across the galaxy, calling in despair upon Master Vodo, whom he had abandoned.

The Essential Guide to Characters wrote:Nadd offered Kun a way to live, and to repair his broken body: if he embraced the dark side, he would be healed. The betrayal of light was not an easy one for Kun, but the desire to live was stronger. He accepted the dark side, his screams reaching out across the galaxy and creating ripples in the Force.

Then he 'demolishes' at least thirty Tomb Beasts 'easily' (Via eyeballing you can count 15 on Kun's left, and one assumes the same on his right. Then there are presumably more we don't see.):

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Comparatively, in Jedi Quest: The Final Showdown the Jedi Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ferus Olin, Soara, Daara, Tru, Siri and Ry-Gaul struggled greatly with ten of the beasts:

Jedi Quest: The Final Showdown wrote:The vicious tuk'ata moved at lightning speed. They did not have an attack strategy. They didn't need one. They charged with flashing teeth and claws and whipping stingers.

Anakin jumped toward the lead tuk'ata. He wanted to be the first to bring one down. The beast whirled, its yellow eyes flat with menace. One massive claw swiped through the air. Anakin caught it with his lightsaber.

The beast howled. He had only angered it.

He needed to hit a vulnerable spot. He saw Ferus and Siri attack a tuk'ata together, moving in rhythm. Perhaps he should have waited for his own Master, but with a quick look over his shoulder Anakin saw that Obi-Wan was occupied with two tuk'ata at once, while Ry-Gaul and Tru were racing to help.

The creature swiped at him again, and, anticipating the move, Anakin ducked and rolled, trying to strike up into the beast's chest, where he assumed a blow would kill it. To his surprise, the stinger landed on his arm. He had not expected that range of motion. Instantly, his arm was on fire, though the stinger had barely licked him. Anakin flipped his lightsaber to his other hand, cursing his luck.

The tuk'ata struck, no doubt following up on his advantage. While its prey was immobilized by the poison, the beast would finish him off. But Anakin was able to flip backward and strike, this time burying his lightsaber in the middle of the creature's head. He heard the sizzle and smelled the smoke. The yellow eyes rolled, and the creature fell dead.

Ry-Gaul and Tru had been outflanked by two tuk'ata. Obi-Wan had his hands full with one massive beast, bigger and fiercer than the rest. Anakin leaped on the back of the tuk'ata bearing down on his Master, hoping to distract it. The beast reared up, both stingers waving, while Anakin did a quick and elusive dance to avoid their sting.

Obi-Wan advanced, striking the tuk'ata with a series of hard blows.

The creature staggered. Anakin was able to slash at the creature's neck before he was thrown off. The tuk'ata screamed, rearing, and Anakin and Obi?Wan leaped out of its way. It toppled and thrashed and then was still.

They were already moving, turning to charge one of the tuk'ata who was after Tru. With a roar, it turned on them instead, circling and striking, trying to get claws and teeth embedded into Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan used his liquid cable launcher and anchored it on the creature's horn. Using the cable, he swung up and out, his lightsaber a blur of motion as he attacked again and again. The creature howled, trying to claw Obi-Wan away. Anakin was able to deliver the death blow in the chest.

Obi-Wan swung off the creature and landed, his boots thudding on the dirt. The cries of the tuk'ata mingled with the buzz of lightsabers as the Jedi met their attacks with moves and counter-moves. The tide of the battle was turning. Five tuk'ata lay dead, and two were mortally wounded. Anakin and Obi-Wan were able to team up with Ry-Gaul and Tru first alternately feinting to confuse the creature, and then slicing it into several pieces.

Soara and Darra, working together in their usual flawless teamwork, had somehow kept two tuk'ata at bay. Wounded, the two counterattacked, but Darra and Soara were too fast, too agile, and too strong.

At last all the tuk'ata lay dead or dying, their cries echoing off the stones of the mountain.

Exar Kun using Force Blast kills a gargantuan Sith Wyrm, a beast enhanced by Naga Sadow, and ashes countless Massassi:

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Exar Kun, Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith Audiobook wrote:"If you're wasting my time, I'll use this amulet to turn you to ashes!"

Exar Kun then turns on his mentor Freedon Nadd and destroys his spirit with a 'full strength' blast:

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Exar Kun, Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith Audiobook wrote:"Now, let me try a full strength blast!"

"Incredible, it even works on spirits!"

As his spirit is destroyed, Nadd claims that the Ketos shouldn't fear Ulic, but Exar:

Freedon Nadd to Aleema & Satal, Star Wars Omnibus: Tales of the Jedi Vol.2 wrote:"My children, it is not Qel-Droma you must fear! Beware of Exar Kun, he has acquired great Sith powers!"

Exar Kun absorbs Freedon Nadd's magical knowledge which makes him a super power:

Exar Kun, Galactic Files wrote:This leads him to the tomb of a long-deceased Dark Lord named Freedon Nadd, a spirit who is destroyed by Kun after all of his magical knowledge is absorbed. Now super-powerful,

This is extremely impressive as Freedon Nadd's knowledge encompassed everything within the Tales of the Jedi Companion and all the as of yet undiscovered holocrons and tomes:

Tales of the Jedi Companion wrote:Freedon Nadd has knowledge of all Jedi and Sith Force powers presented herein as well as those abilities still hidden in ancient Holocrons and tomes.

Freedon Nadd in his prime was the greatest Sith sorceror ever by that point:

Tales of the Jedi Companion wrote:He only needed time to become the greatest Sith sorcerer that had ever existed.

Vodo states that he senses Exar Kun has risen to take Freedon Nadd's place as a 'great power':

Vodo Siosk Baas to Nomi Sunrider, Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith Audiobook wrote:"I sense a disturbance in the Force. As if one great power has fallen, and another has risen in its place."

Kun's power is stated to rise, and is more powerful than an enraged Ulic:

Chronicles of the Old Republic wrote:Exar Kun's power is in the ascendance.


Ulic unleashes a force of unruly fury at the death of Master Arca, avenging the death by defeating Keto, and taking the Krath throne by the side of Aleema. Meanwhile on Yavin 4, a more powerful EXAR KUN rests in his meditation chamber

Kun's power is stated to now be extreme:

The New Essential Chronology wrote:An extremely powerful figure now, Kun dabbled in dark side alchemy, creating freakish two-headed avians and hulking terentateks that thirsted after Force-rich blood. He invented a glowing golden sphere that trapped the children of the Massassi and allowed him to feed off their energies.

Exar Kun's talent with Sith alchemy is so great that he created Massassi durable enough to tank Republic ordnance, but takes it a step further and successfully transforms them into skilled Force-users infused with his own DNA. They are state to 'exude' dark side energy:

The Dark Side Sourcebooks wrote:Although the Massassi pledged their loyalty to Exar Kun after he defeated the Sith wyrm, the Dark Jedi was still not satisfied. Filled with bitterness and spite, he swore to himself that he would make an example out of the warriors who had put him through his ordeal in the Temple of Fire. Furthermore, he realized that Naga Sadow had not gone far enough when he altered the Massassi. While they made excellent forest warriors, they were not prepared for the highpowered ordnance they would have to face when fighting the forces of the Republic. Exar Kun rejoiced when he discovered the giant alchemical machine that had belonged to Naga Sadow. At last, he had the means to shape his Massassi servants as he needed them, and he knew just the Massassi on whom he could experiment: Zythmnr, the priest who had ordered Kun to be sacrificed.

The Sith disciple first altered Zythmnr physically, fusing the old priest's skin with metallic bioarmor and enhancing the Massassi's skeletal structure and musculature accordingly. Vicious claws became razored gauntlets, thick hide became hardened plating, and Zythmnr's head was encased in a shelled helmet. The process was excruciating for the Massassi. He not only survived, but also continued to worship Kun, willfully insisting the experiments continue.

Exar Kun was more than happy to comply. He took his next step: infusing his new warrior with the dark side using some of his own physical makeup as a template. When Zythmnr readily took to the treatment-and even showed potential with Force skills-Kun chose several more "volunteers" to continue his work. Before long, he had several dozen living weapons that exuded the raw power and energy of the dark side. Upon feeling their power firsthand, the Jedi called them "abominations." Kun would take many of these bestial servants on his quests for Sith knowledge. In a few cases, he even left a handful of his favorite warriors behind to terrorize any that might oppose him. While the Jedi believed that all of the Massassi abominations died with their people, there may yet be descendants of this hideous species stranded on some remote, forgotten world.

He also created Battle Hydras as an example of his mastery, resistant to lightsaber blades and armed with incredibly potent venom:

The Dark Side Sourcebook wrote:The battle hydra is an example of Exar Kun's alchemical mastery and Naga Sadow's dark legacy.


Exar Kun's Sith alchemy forever altered these creatures' physiology, giving them many unusual traits. For example, Kun introduced ancient Sith armor alloys into their basic physiology at the molecular level, reducing damage against attacks-even lightsaber attacks. They are also especially susceptible to manipulation through the Force. A trained dark side Force-sensitive may use the Affect Mind skill to command battle hydras in combat.

Exar Kun combined the natural venom from many different creatures when he mutated his original hydras. When the battle hydra hits with its stinging tail whip, a hooklike stinger injects acidic poison into the victim. This foul toxin is capable of destroying most of the victim's nervous system from the inside-out within a matter of minutes.

Exar Kun at this point is stated to be worthy of the Sith legacy where Freedon Nadd, even in his prime, was not:

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This is incredible, as Freedon Nadd grew far more powerful than Naga Sadow before he killed him and spent a century growing more powerful after that:

Rule of Two wrote:Freedon Nadd had been a Jedi who turned to the dark side as the apprentice of Naga Sadow, the former ruler of the ancient Sith Empire. Sadow's power had been so great, it had allowed him to survive for six centuries, fueled by the energies of the dark side.

Chronicles of the Old Republic wrote:Here on YAVIN 4, Sadow drew on Sith technology and sorcery to cocoon himself in suspended animation until awakened at a future Golden Age.

The Dark Legacy of Yavin 4 Codex Entry: Part 1 wrote:Sadow was even powerful enough to stave off the inevitable. He placed himself in a near-death slumber, which he remained in for hundreds of years, waiting until someone would come to take his place….

The Official Fact File 90 wrote:Eventually, the apprentice became far more powerful than the teacher...

The Dark Legacy of Yavin 4 Codex Entry: Part 3 wrote:And just as Nadd killed his lord Sadow, Kun destroyed Nadd’s spirit here on Yavin 4. These notable deaths likely served to further imbue the moon’s temples with dark power, further fueling the barbaric Massassi–as well as the succession of Dark Lords who would later reside here.

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Naga Sadow, as a mere spirit, could telekinetically ragdoll Shadow of Revan Darth Nox:

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Freedon Nadd even as a spirit could give his descendants the power to dominate millions of people:

Tales of the Jedi Companion wrote:King Ommin rose to power in the same manner as his ancestors of the last three centuries: by dominating the populace of Onderon with the dark side.

Exar Kun telekinetically lifts a Derriphan-class Battleship out of the depths of a massive temple, but doesn't deem the feat to be a good first display of his new powers:

Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide wrote:Though all of the Derriphan-class battleships were thought to be destroyed in the Great Hyperspace War, at least one survived. The ship, belonging to Naga Sadow, was buried on Yavin 4. During the Great Sith War, Exar Kun would raise the ship from the planet and put it back to service, similar to the way Darth Nihilus would raise the Ravager from the ruined surface of Malachor V.

The Dark Side Sourcebook wrote:There, his Massassi crew helped build stone temples to focus the energies of the dark side (conveniently hiding Sadow's Sith battleship).

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Abel G. Peña wrote:Q: In the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide, under the Sith Battleship description it states that Exar Kun recovered his ship the Corsair in the same way Darth Nihilus recovered the Ravager on Malachor V. Does this mean that Exar Kun summoned the ship via the Force from the depths of the Massassi Temple of Sacrifice?

A: That said, looking over the text, it appears to me to be a direct analogy with the Ravager and that your interpretation is essentially correct. (Another example, though in reverse, is Emperor Palpatine using the Force to bury the Lusankya, in plain sight, beneath the surface of the planet Coruscant.)

For comparison, Darth Tyranus threw the same class of ship, as well as an assortment of large vehicles, on Korriban:

Jedi Quest: The Final Showdown wrote:They were nearing the end of the hangar. He sensed it rather than saw it. The corroded vehicles were more numerous now, lined up like dark, giant phantoms.

Like phantoms..

Phantoms that move…

Obi-Wan wrenched his gaze away. He could have sworn the ancient ships were moving.

Then he knew.

"This way!" he yelled, as the first vehicle suddenly flipped over. It would have crushed them if Obi-Wan hadn't dashed to the side with Anakin on his heels. He flattened himself against the wall as another vehicle moved, its jagged wing a lethal weapon, capable of slicing them to ribbons. A cruiser suddenly zoomed toward the wall, straight at them.

"Drop!" Anakin and Obi-Wan hit the floor, hugging the stones as the cruiser passed over them and smashed into the wall.

Vehicle parts began to fall like rain. The crashes were deafening.

They leaped, twisted, and dived to avoid them, using the Force to deflect them when they could. Finally they came to rest in the shadow of one of the giant statues. Obi-Wan leaned against a clawed foot and squinted into the darkness.

He could not see the Sith, but he felt the Sith's amusement, his triumph.

The vehicles now smashed into one another, creating a solid mass of screaming metal, effectively blocking them from the front of the hangar.

Much like Exar Kun, Count Dooku had the power of a dark side nexus in Korriban flowing through him. Obi-Wan Kenobi states the energy that flowed out from the surface of Korriban during this novel was the most complicated surge of dark side energy he'd ever felt:

Jedi Quest: The Final Showdown wrote:He felt it now, the dark side of the Force emanating from the planet's surface. Looking at the faces of the Jedi, he knew they felt it as well. It had a sick sweetness to it, something that seemed to pour through his veins, attracting and repelling him at once. It was the most complicated surge of the dark side he had ever felt.

The energy of the planet made it hard for Obi-Wan Kenobi to determine what was a real threat:

Jedi Quest: The Final Showdown wrote:"I'm not getting a warning. But still…" Obi-Wan shook his head. The problem was the energy on this planet. Dark waves buffeted him from every side. It was like swimming in an evil sea. All that darkness made it hard to distinguish what was a true threat.

The hangar was located within a Sith monastery which caused hallucinations and had palpable dark side energy inside:

Jedi Quest: The Final Showdown wrote:Anakin felt the peculiar stomach-turning wrench he experienced when faced with the tremors of the dark side of the Force. He knew what this wreck of a building was.

The ancient Sith monastery spread out below him, deserted for centuries, and still a presence of evil. Here was where thousands of Sith had once trained — and thousands of hopefuls had once disappeared forever.


Obi-Wan went a few steps ahead into the darkness. He felt the dread of the place. They were in a vast chamber, as big as the Great Hall of the Temple. Massive blocks of stone formed the floor. The last of the light came through the crevices in the walls like bony fingers.

They heard footsteps echoing as Auben led Anakin and Ferus farther into the ruins. The Jedi followed silently. The oppressiveness of the place where Sith had lived and trained was a burden they had to fight against.

Obi-Wan heard voices, but he knew they were ancient ones. He thought he saw shadows move. When he turned a corner quickly, he saw a vision — a Sith student on his knees, begging..


Ry-Gaul led them steadily downward. Obi-Wan could feel the mountain as if it were pressing on his back. The closer they got, the more dread he felt.

They were deep in the monastery now. Even though it was in ruins, Obi- Wan could see how different it was from the Jedi Temple. Although the Sith monastery had the same goals — study and training — it was clear that this had been a place ruled by fear.


Obi-Wan could still feel the fear that had ruled there, the many beings who had come to learn evil, the ones who had come naively, hoping for some kind of enlightenment, and had been trapped by their own desires.

He shuddered. It was as though he could feel each wasted life. Each terrible death.

The rest of the Jedi were silent. He knew they felt it, too.

Exar Kun travels to Cinnagar where he dominated the minds of every witness to his Battleship attack on a hangar:

Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith Audiobook wrote:"Help!"

"No one will help you, no one even knows."

"But your ship! Energy blasts! Scanners!"

"All went unnoticed, my unfortunate friend. With the dark side I blinded every scanning technician in Cinnagar. They all watched me land and wipe out your little docking bay, and not one of them batted an eye!"

"Who.. are you?"

"I? Soon, I shall be the man who conquered this planet, the man who rules the galaxy. But for this moment, I am the man who murdered you."

Exar Kun shrugs off the power of Aleema Keto, blasts her unconscious and engages in a stalemate lightsaber duel with an enraged Ulic Qel-Droma:

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The swordsmen were so skilled that neither would've made a mistake in their technique for hours:

The Dark Side Sourcebook wrote:Exar Kun and Ulic fought, but they were too evenly matched for either to gain the upper hand. Their battle might have gone on for hours but for the macabre manifestation of a host of Sith spirits, led by the shade of Marka Ragnos.

Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma disappeared for years, gaining immense power before they reappeared:

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Exar Kun successfully shrouds his Force presence from all the Jedi in the Great Library of Ossus; including Odan-Urr and Nomi Sunrider. Before telekinetically tearing a Sith holocron from Urr's telekinetic grasp, then attacking Odan-Urr; resisting his Sever Force attack, before killing him in turn. All on an incredibly strong light side nexus:

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This is incredibly impressive, as Odan-Urr is stated to have a revolutionary understanding of the Force:

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He's also the leader of the Jedi Assembly, and is amongst the two most powerful Jedi Masters in the Order alongside Baas:

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Odan-Urr should thus be more powerful than Master Thon, who could contain the power of the Sith spirits of Ambria. Spirits so powerful they could consume the entire sector:

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Hence, he gains the most powerful Sith holocron ever, the Dark Holocron:

The Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology wrote:The most powerful Sith Holocron contained Sith teachings and histories that covered some hundred thousand years.

This is directly attributed to his rise to power:

Jedi VS. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force wrote:Exar Kun might not have risen to power so quickly had Odan-Urr destroyed the Sith Holocron when he’d had the chance.

Through this Dark Holocron, Exar Kun reinvented his fighting style using ancient Sith techniques:

Jedi VS. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force wrote:The construction and use of the first double-bladed lightsaber is sometimes credited to Jedi-turned-Sith Exar Kun, but according to the Tedryn Holocron, Exar Kun assembled his weapon by following instructions from a Sith Holocron, possibly prepared by the Jedi Exiles themselves.

Now described to be unstoppable in lightsaber combat:

The Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology wrote:Some unique objects are invariably associated with their remarkable owners. The unusual double-bladed lightsaber of the fallen Jedi Exar Kun is one such artifact. This weapon as distinctive and dangerous as its builder, the Dark Lord of the Sith, who initiated the great Sith War and nearly toppled the Old Republic.


As the battle against the Jedi escalated, Kun altered his normal lightsaber into a more deadly and dangerous weapon. Kun added a second emitter matrix on the opposite end of the handgrip, allowing him to release two blue-white blades simultaneously. The dark Jedi wielded the saber much as he would a quarterstaff, using one blade to block incoming attacks, then quickly spinning the handgrip to use the second blade to strike a killing blow against his opponent.

Customized controls allowed him to adjust each blade's length from half a meter to one and a half meters. Panels controlled each blade's intensity: at its highest setting, a blade was like any other lightsaber, with the ability to cut through dense materials such as armor plating and durasteel with virtually no resistance. At the lowest power setting, a blade became a simple shaft of light, delivering no damage and providing no resistance against incoming lightsaber attacks. By abruptly shortening a blade or dropping it to the lowest power setting, Kun tricked his opponents into overextending themselves during attacks, giving him an opportunity for a dealy counterstrike. By coupling these tactics with his Force abilities to predict the actions of his opponents, Kun became virtually unstoppable in combat.

The most deadly and potent dueling attack in the arsenal of the deadly assassin Asajj Ventress was an Exar Kun technique:

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Exar Kun arrives in the Senate and freezes all those he wished to in place:

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He subsequently ragdolls a bloodthirsty Sylvar, so hard she can't interfere in the coming death of Vodo:

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This is impressive as Sylvar could move faster than Nomi Sunrider could react, who already dwarfed the likes of a meditation sphere amped-Aleema Keto in power:

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Exar Kun brags about his new Sith lightsaber techniques as he out-duels Vodo. Initially offering Vodo a place in his Brotherhood before felling the Jedi Weapon Master:

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Exar Kun's power dwarfed Vodo's despite maintaining the spell on thousands, if not tens of thousands of Senators:

Power of the Jedi Sourcebook wrote:Ulic’s trial was interrupted by Exar Kun, who met his former Master face to face for the first time since his long descent into darkness. The two fought, and Vodo-Siosk Baas was no match for Exar Kun’s double-bladed lightsaber and deep reserve of dark side power. Vodo-Siosk perished, slain by his former apprentice.

This is incredible, given that Vodo had telekinetically disarmed a prepared Ulic and placed a block on Ulic's immense power, which dwarfed the combined strength of Nomi Sunrider, Tott Doneeta, Cay Qel-Droma and others prior to several years of Ulic gaining tremendous powers:

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At the height of the Great Sith War, Kun and his brotherhood cause vast amounts of dark side corruption with their presence on the mammoth 27,345 kilometer-wide planet Thule, imbuing much of Thule's crust with dark side energy:

The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia wrote:During the height of the Great Sith War, Thule served as a base of operations for the Sith Warriors, and much of the planet's crust became imbued with the residue of the dark side of the Force.

Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma attack Ossus, a light side nexus, where Kun faces Ood Bnar who was channelling the planet's immense power:

Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith #6 wrote:Ood resists Kun's attempts to steal the lightsabers by undergoing a final metamorphosis, plunging roots into the ground and driving Kun back with a blast of power drawn from the depths of Ossus.

Ossus had such living Force power that it stopped the planet from being completely obliterated by ten supernova  waves:

The Unlikely Survival of Ossus Codex Entry wrote:Ossus still bears the scars of the Cron Supernova: its surface is a seared wasteland of rock and sand. But even this degree of desolation is shockingly mild; that the planet was not rendered into a charred ball of molten rock, or even obliterated completely, is nothing short of miraculous.

Little academic work has been put forward to explain this unlikely survival; only conjecture. The initial cause of the supernova was unnatural; perhaps this explains the unnatural results? Ossus was a stronghold of the Jedi; does the inherent life force of such a place make it more resistant to destruction? Could the unique astrophysical structure of the Adega system where Ossus is found have played a role?

Regardless of the reasons, the continued survival of Ossus offers the promise that its ancient mysteries may one day be unlocked.

The same power obliterated Executor Sedriss when Ood killed him:

The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia wrote:Several thousand years later on the planet Ossus, Bnar reawakened to help save Jem Ysanna, a young woman with powers in the Force. He ultimately sacrificed himself to destroy the evil Imperial Military Executor Sedriss.


The Executor was destroyed by the power of an ancient Jedi, Ood Bnar.

Sedriss might have defeated Luke Skywalker in combat if not for Ood's intervention:

Handbook 3: Dark Empire wrote:Sedriss and Vill Goir met Luke Skywalker and recent Jedi recruit kam Solusar on the plains of Ossus. Had it been merely a contest between dark side adepts and Jedi, Sedriss might have been victorious.

Sedriss is also canonically more powerful than Jerec:

Handbook 3: Dark Empire wrote:Perhaps the strongest disciple of Palpatine after Darth Vader, Executor Sedriss remained loyal to the Emperor after the death of his clone over the Rebel's Pinnacle Base.

Exar Kun escaped Ossus with more knowledge than he could ever use from the Chamber of Antiquities:

Star Wars Omnibus: Tales of the Jedi Vol.2 wrote:Looking at all the precious artifacts his Massassi have stolen, Exar Kun knows he has more wealth and knowledge than he could ever use.

In his prime he is now far more powerful than any Jedi, including Ood Bnar:

The Jedi Academy Sourcebook wrote:She discovers the accounts of the Great Sith War, and learns that though Kun was far more powerful than any one other Jedi of the time, a combined force had defeated him.

He's also canonically the most powerful Sith in history at this point:

The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia wrote:Kun, Exar. Once the most powerful and dangerous of the Dark Lords of the Sith, he was responsible for the deaths of millions four millennia before the rise of the Empire.

Given Kun's canonical superiority to all of the ancient Sith, he is logically more powerful than their far weaker spirits. The spirits from the tombs of the Dark Lords on Korriban once cowed and almost killed Emperor Palpatine, per his own admission, around A New Hope:

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Exar Kun was the greatest threat to the galaxy since the Republic was founded:

Star Wars Omnibus: Tales of the Jedi Vol.2 wrote:Nearly four thousand years before the birth of Luke Skywalker, the galaxy faces its greatest threat since the founding of the Republic!

Exar Kun is stated to be the cause of a 'torrent' of the dark side which is only stopped when Kun is attacked at Yavin IV and ended:

Exar Kun, Star Wars Databank wrote:
Before Vader, before Maul, before Sidious... there was a Dark Lord of the Sith that cast a shadow of terror and destruction across the galaxy. The ancient forces of the Republic and the Jedi banded together to stop the torrent of the dark side, and bring an end to Exar Kun's rule.

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Exar Kun: The Ultimate Respect Thread (2020) Empty Re: Exar Kun: The Ultimate Respect Thread (2020)

on Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:47 am
Exar Kun survives the Jedi Order's attack on Yavin IV by successfully weilding the energies of thousands of dark side beasts in the Massassi, to unleash his spirit, despite not fully understanding the ritual itself:

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Exar Kun manages to survive by anchoring his spirit to the Jedi temples:

Dark Side Sourcebook wrote:Exar Kun-who didn't technically die so much as merge with the dark side and retain his identity-resisted the dissolution of his spirit by drawing on the remarkable focusing energies of the Massassi temples on Yavin 4.

Exar Kun was attacked by a Jedi strike force unlike anything before:

Jedi Academy Vol.3: Champions of the Force wrote:When Master Vodo did not succeed, the other Jedi banded together in a massive strike force such as had never before been gathered.

Exar Kun's presence is felt by the Jedi and Sith, some 350 years later:

Satele Shan, Shadow of Revan wrote:"You sense it too. Not the ancient Sith, or the Emperor. Not Revan. Another presence... different from the rest."

The Hero of Tython & Satele Shan, Shadow of Revan wrote:"The Emperor is here, I can feel his presence. I'd know it anywhere. But he isn't alone."

"The Emperor isn't the only Sith to have left his mark on this world."

The 'Ancient Threat' is a manifestation of the convergence of dark side energies caused by the reawakening of the spirits of Naga Sadow, Tulak Hord, Marka Ragnos and Exar Kun:

Long-forgotten Sith spirits have awakened on Yavin 4. This convergence of dark side energies could give rise to a powerful and ancient threat within the moon's already-treacherous jungles.
- SWTOR 3.0.2 Patch Notes

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The 'Ancient Threat' is literally too powerful a source of energy for the 'galaxy's greatest heroes' to damage:

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Unless their Force essences are touched by the four spirits:

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Interacting with any of these spirits results in being blasted back:

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And they must collect their individual talismans to even find it in the Force:

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These Talismans overwhelm any one of Darth Nox, the Empire's Wrath, the Hero of Tython or the third Barsen'thor:

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Once they do actually face the Ancient Threat, it's easily far too powerful for either Darth Nox or the Hero of Tython, and is only defeated by the combined force of the galaxy's champions.

Exar Kun's dormant spirit is stated to permeate the jungles of Yavin IV with the dark side:

The Star Wars Spy Game: Declassified wrote:Complicating matters were the ancient Massassi temples on Yavin 4 — brimming with Sith history and magick — and hidden Jedi secrets. A dark presence permeated the very jungles (Luke would many years later encounter the spirit of the bygone Dark Lord Exar Kun trapped in the Great Temple)

Exar Kun dominated the minds of archeologists when they broke into his tomb and turned them into 'powerful' enslaved cultists:

The Fury of Exar Kun, Star Wars Galaxies Chapter 9, LucasArts Announcement wrote:Hidden below the Temple of Exar Kun on Yavin 4 lays the tomb of this legendary Sith Lord. Exar Kun's spirit is so strong and malevolence so great, that he has withstood death for 4,000 years, waiting for an opportunity to finally obtain the godhood he so desires. A group of archeologists excavating nearby have discovered the tomb's crumbled antechamber, and as they explored deeper, have succumbed to Exar Kun's powerful will. Players must eliminate each of the now twisted but powerful archeologists on their way to finally put the spirit of Exar Kun to rest.

Exar Kun's state in spiritual form was dire, as all of his energy reserves had long been lost, but as he returns, he subsides through corrupting and possessing young Jedi hopefuls, by bending their will and augmenting their power. Using negative emotions and draining energy to partially make up for his own lack of energy sources:

The Jedi Academy Sourcebook wrote:Exar Kun passed the millennia in uneasy slumber.
A few scant years later, Kun is brought sharply awake by the arrival of not one or two, but a dozen humans blazing with the power he needed to live again. Eagerly but cautiously, Kun observes each arrival, probing for weaknesses and the power he needs to restore his lost reserves of energy. For a time, he is able to subside by feeding on their residual energy, but soon he will need worshippers if he is to grow more active. With a nucleus of followers to provide him energy-providing anger and fear, Kun will have enough power to escape his exile and take on human form. To his surprise, Kun recognizes the leader to be the same man who had visited Yavin Four years earlier, now much more powerful in the Force. Too powerful, for the moment, for Kun to tackle.
Kun finds Gantoris, strong-willed and impatient to learn, to be a more promising first candidate. He easily seduces Gantoris in the same manner that Nadd had seduced him—by promising forbidden knowledge and the truly powerful Jedi secrets Gantoris cannot wait to learn. Carefully building up and feeding on the anger of his first apprentice, Kun grows in power. Soon he feels confident to make an attempt to subvert Luke, knowing that if he can sway the teacher, the students will all follow. Kun, posing as Anakin Skywalker, appears to Luke and attempts to pull him toward the forbidden Sith teachings by tempting him to use Sith power to seize control of the New Republic and destroy the Empire. Realizing that this shade is not that of his father, Luke rejects the offer.
Enraged and drained, Kun returns to Gantoris. Desperate for more energy, he goads Gantoris to new heights of anger by showing him the Eol Sha colonists dying on Dantooine. Gantoris is pushed too far, however, and turns on his Sith master. Realizing that Gantoris is no longer his, Kun utterly drains him to provide himself a reserve of energy to last until he can subvert more students.
Kun has just begun edging in on Streen when Kyp Durron arrives at the Jedi Academy. Kun immediately senses in the young man his ideal subject. Like Gantoris, Kyp is strong-willed and impatient to learn. Moreover, he is far more powerful than the Eol Sha leader, and young enough to be overconfident and naive.
Over a number of weeks, Kun slowly bends Kyp to his will, and begins to augment his power. He grows very powerful on Kyp's hate, and soon his hold on Kyp is so complete that he can send Kyp beyond the planet to do his will and still retain control over his subject. Ultimately, he has Kyp return to Yavin Four and helps him reclaim the Sun Crusher. He also bolsters Kyp's talents to allow him to defeat Luke and place him in a coma.

The Jedi Academy Sourcebook wrote:Exar Kun himself possessed a great many other dark powers that he was unable to harness without the energy he needed to fuel his disembodied will. Some of these powers he was able to channel through Kyp, Gantoris, and Streen to achieve his ends.

Exar Kun possessed Kyp Durron, which is nigh impossible:

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His control was so complete that all of Kyp Durron's dark side corruption was instantaneously dissipated upon Kun's destruction:

Jedi Academy Vol.3: Champions of the Force wrote:And then the haunting voice of Exar Kun rose to a wail in his mind, an utterly forlorn scream as if he were being torn out of this universe and exiled to another place entirely, where he could torment Kyp Durron no more. Kyp snapped backward in his control seat as if an invisible tow cable had been severed. His arms and head dangled like a puppet with suddenly snipped strings. The cool wind of freedom whistled through his mind and body. He blinked his eyes and shuddered with revulsion at what he had been about to do.

Luke Skywalker sensed a separate presence that was a greater threat than Kyp Durron:

Jedi Academy Vol.2: Dark Apprentice wrote:His best students were going sour, getting impatient, trying to push the limits of their abilities. But he had sensed a greater, deeper menace that vibrated within the very stones of the Great Temple itself. . . evil, and well hidden.

This is highly impressive as eventually Kyp Durron becomes more powerful than Luke Skywalker:

Jedi Academy Vol.2: Dark Apprentice (Germany) wrote:In the temples of a long-gone people, the spirit of Exar Kun, the most powerful Dark Lord of the Sith, lives, whose teachings once led Darth Vader to the side of evil. Luke must watch helplessly as some of his students succumb to the whisperings of Exar Kun. Above all, the young Kyp Durron, who is utterly devoured by hatred for the Empire, is only too willing to follow the temptations of the forbidden Sith teachings. Without realizing, he is more and more dedicated to the dark side of power. Soon he's more powerful than Luke and threatens to become an even more dangerous opponent than Darth Vader once was ...

Prior to that however, Exar Kun's spirit aids Kyp Durron in levelling Corran Horn so hard he was knocked out; who was somewhat a match for Kyp's own telekinetic attacks, whilst simultaneously masking the attack from the senses of a hall full of Jedi merely fifteen meters away, including Luke Skywalker himself who was already actively searching for Kun:

I, Jedi wrote:The Force blow he aimed at me glanced off my chest, yet it was strong enough to bounce me off the corrider wall. I managed to catch myself against the rough stone, but not before I'd slid half-way down the wall.

"You are not my master!" Kyp pointed back toward the dining room, "He is not my master! What good is it being a Jedi if we do not act?"

"What good is it being Jedi if we don't act responsibly?" I hauled myself upright, "Remember Kyp, the 'no good Jedi' kicked Kun's butt.." Kyp struck at me again through the Force but I expected it this time, I absorbed enough of it to let me create a shield.

"You're involved with someone who lost a long time ago, don't compound his error."

"And who will stop me?" I hesitated because Kyp's words seemed to echo within themselves, we were not alone, which meant Kyp's mentor had come to aid his apprentice.

"I will, if you make it necessary." An ancient sneer of contempt twisted Kyp's features.

"Puny Jedi, you are of no concern to me." Even though I had braced myself for another attack, it did no good. Kyp's previous blows were like light breezes compared to this full-on gale. I slammed back into the wall with teeth rattling-impact.


"What happened to you?"

"Kyp didn't like the menu." I winced as a twing rang through my ribs. "We had a discussion in the hallway, you didn't feel anything?" Heads all around the hallway shook, and I felt a cold dread begin to congeal in my stomach. If Exar Kun could mask the attack on me in such a way that Master Skywalker could not feel it barely fifteen meters away, then we were up against something more powerful than I'd cared to imagine existing.

Exar Kun aids Kyp Durron with power that made a focal point-amped Kyp comparably 'feeble':

Jedi Academy Vol.2: Dark Apprentice wrote:“Exar Kun, help me,” Kyp said, closing his eyes.
He reached out with his mind, following the paths of the Force that led to every object in the universe, drawing power from the cosmic focal point of the Massassi temple. He searched, sending his thoughts like a probe deep into the storm systems of the gas giant. Behind him, Kyp felt the black-ice power of Exar Kun arise, tapping into him and reinforcing his abilities. His own feeble exploratory touch suddenly plunged forward like a blaster bolt. Kyp felt larger, a part of the jungle moon, then a part of the entire planetary system, until he burrowed into the heart of the gas giant itself.The Sun Crusher approached like a long, sharp thorn of crystalline alloy, cruising upright on its long axis. The toroidal resonance-torpedo launcher hung at the bottom of the long hook. It looked beautiful. The Sun Crusher descended through the jungle moon’s atmosphere, straight down—like a spike to impale the Great Temple. Kyp controlled it, slowed its descent, until the superweapon hovered to a stop, suspended in front of him.
As the sky brightened with planetrise, the alloy hull of the Sun Crusher seemed as pristine as a firefacet gem, scoured of all oxidation and debris by the intense temperatures and pressures at the core of Yavin. The Sun Crusher looked clean, and deadly, and ready for him.
“Thank you, Exar Kun,” Kyp whispered.

Against Exar Kun and Kyp Durron's attacks, all of Luke's Jedi knowledge and power were useless:

Jedi Academy Vol.2: Dark Apprentice wrote:Kyp made a dismissive gesture with one hand, and a sudden wave of dark ripples splashed across the air like the shock front of a concussion grenade. Luke stumbled backward. The lightsaber turned cold in his hand. Frost crystals grew in feathery patterns around the handle. At the core of the brilliant green blade a shadow appeared, a black disease rotting away the purity of the beam. The humming blade sputtered, sounding like a sickly cough. The black taint rapidly grew stronger, swallowing up the green beam. With a frizzle of sparks Luke’s lightsaber died.
Trying to control his growing fear, Luke felt a sudden brush of cold behind him. He turned to see a black, hooded silhouette—the image that had impersonated Anakin Skywalker in Luke’s nightmare…the dark man who had lured Gantoris into a devastating loss of control.
Kyp’s voice came as if from a great distance. “At last, Master Skywalker, you can meet my mentor—Exar Kun.”
Luke dropped his useless lightsaber and crouched. His every muscle suddenly coiled and tensed. He rallied all the powers of the Force around him, seeking any defensive tactic. With the Sun Crusher looming behind him, Kyp stretched out both hands and blasted Luke with lightning bolts like black cracks in the Force. Dark tendrils rose up from the gaps in the temple flagstones, fanged, illusionary vipers that struck at him from all sides. Luke cried out and tried to strike back, but the shadows of Exar Kun joined the attack, adding more deadly force. The ancient Dark Lord of the Sith lashed out with waves of blackness, driving long icicles of frozen poison into Luke’s body.
He thrashed, but felt helpless. To lose control to anger and desperation would be as great a failure as if he did nothing at all. Luke called upon the powers that Yoda and Obi-Wan had taught him—but everything he did, every skillful technique, failed utterly.

Kun binds Luke Skywalker's spirit with his power, Luke only escapes when Kun is destroyed:

Jedi Academy Vol.3: Champions of the Force wrote:With a wheezing cough as he expelled long-trapped air from his lungs and drew in a fresh breath, Master Skywalker groaned and sat up on the stone platform.

"You've-done it!" Luke said, gaining strength from each lungful of cool, clean air. The new Jedi Knights surged toward him. "You have broken the bonds."

The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia wrote:Later, Jacen joined forces with the other Jedi students in destroying Exar Kun's spirit forever and freeing Luke's spirit.


Later she became one of Skywalker's Jedi candidates and joined his other Jedi students on Yavin IV in defeating the spirit of Dark Lord Exar Kun, protecting Luke's body and freeing his spirit.

Exar Kun's spirit alone was powerful enough to defeat Master Skywalker:

Jedi Academy Vol.3: Champions of the Force wrote:Afraid to challenge the dark power that had been sufficient to warp other students and defeat Master Skywalker.

This was Luke Skywalker in his prime as of this point:

Jedi Academy Vol.3: Champions of the Force wrote:Luke clapped him on the back and smiled with dark-ringed eyes that shone with an inner brightness stronger than ever before. As he conquered each seemingly insurmountable obstacle, Luke's Jedi powers grew greater and greater- but, like Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda, a Jedi Master learned to use his powers even less, relying on wits instead of showmanship.

I, Jedi wrote:When we had met before I had felt power in him, but now, after his experiences with the Emperor Reborn, his power had been redoubled. Physically he looked a bit haggard and worn, with the flesh around his eyes having tightened and wrinkles appearing at their corners. I knew we were the same age chronologically, but in experience he far surpassed me.

Luke Skywalker states that it took all of the Jedi in his Academy to match Kun:

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Despite the fact Exar Kun's energy sources were gone, as Kyp was across the galaxy and Streen was fighting against him:

Jedi Academy Sourcebook wrote:She[Tionne] supposes that the students have a chance of defeating him, since Kun no longer has his servants to draw power from, he[Streen] is his only source.

Even in this state, Kun nearly chokes out all of the melded Jedi simultaneously, if not for Streen utilising alter environment:

Jedi Academy Vol.3: Champion of the Force wrote:As his eyes adjusted, Streen saw that all twelve of the Jedi candidates were limned with the faintest sheen of an iridescent blue glow that grew brighter as the new Jedi converged around Exar Kun.

"Even joined together, you are too weak to fight me!" the shadowy man said.

Streen felt his throat constrict, his windpipe close. He choked, unable to breathe. The black silhouette turned, staring at those who resisted him. The Jedi trainees grasped their throats, straining to breathe, their faces darkening with the effort. Kun's shadow expanded, growing darker and more powerful.

He towered over Streen. "Streen, take your lightsaber and finish these weaklings. Then I will allow you to live."

Streen heard the blood sing in his ears as his body strained for oxygen. The rushing sound reminded him of blowing wind, gale-force storms. Wind. Air. He grasped the wind with his Jedi powers, moving the air itself and making it flow into his lungs, past Kun's invisible stranglehold. Cool, sweet oxygen filled him, and Streen exhaled and inhaled again. Reaching out with his power, he did the same for all the other Jedi students, nudging air into their lungs—helping them breathe, helping them grow stronger.

Exar Kun's spirit was stated to be a dark side nexus:

Specters of the Past wrote:There in front of him, starkly visible against the blackness of space, he could see the faint images of Emperor Palpatine and Exar Kun, two of the greatest focal points of the dark side he’d ever had to face. They were standing there before him, gazing back at him. And laughing.

Per Leia, Exar Kun's spirit was the only thing as powerful as Kueller since before Kun's awakening:

New Rebellion wrote:She [Leia] wished she had the same certainty. This Kueller had more Force capability than anyone she had encountered in years. Except Exar Kun, and he had been a spirit. Kueller was alive.

He was using these deaths to replenish his own well of hatred. The dark side ate people from within, but while it did so, it gave them too much power.

He appeared to have more power than she had. More power than Luke.

Per Luke Skywalker, he hadn't felt power like Kueller's in a living being since Emperor Palpatine:

New Rebellion wrote:The presence had neared. It was strong in the dark side. He could feel the ripples, feel a power he hadn't felt in a living being since he encountered the Emperor. Luke had never had a student that powerful, of that he was certain.

Mara Jade further claims she hasn't felt power like a prime Kueller's since Palpatine:

New Rebellion wrote:She raised her head. She was stunning, he had to give her that, with her bright green eyes, and red, almost auburn, hair. A woman to respect. A woman that no one ever should tamper with. "I haven't felt power like this since Palpatine in the early days. If this continues, Han, Kueller will be stronger than the Emperor ever was, and he'll do it quicker."

"So you're not here for Luke after all." She swallowed. "It may be too late for Luke. I'm here for the rest of us."

Per Luke Skywalker, Kyp Durron had faced forces as dire and powerful as he himself had gone through to become a Jedi:

Jedi Academy Vol.3: Champions of the Force wrote:If Kyp could face this final test, Luke would know he'd passed through the fire of his testing-tempered by forces as dire and powerful as those Luke himself had endured.

The return of the spirits of Dark Lord Exar Kun and Dark Lord Marka Ragnos caused the Force to 'seethe' with the dark side:

Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties, wrote:Seven years after the Battle of Endor, when Luke Skywalker established an academy with the intention of rebuilding the Jedi Order, the spirit of the ancient Sith Lord Exar Kun returned to prevent the Jedi Brotherhood's resurrection. Three short years later, another Sith daemon, this time the Dark Lord Marka Ragnos, also was called back from the realm of Chaos to terrorize the galaxy. This latter event was not isolated. Some of the disciples of Ragnos had formerly been aligned with the dark sider Hethrir and his Empire Reborn, which had been defeated only a short time prior. Worse, soon after the encounter with Ragnos, the lifeless body of the reformed Sith acolyte Flint was found on Belderone: an ancient Jedi lightsaber in hand, a cauterized hole through his throat.
The Force seethed with the suggestion of a grand, sinister scheme.

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Exar Kun: The Ultimate Respect Thread (2020) Empty Addendum: The Darth Malak Quote

on Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:47 am
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This quote has been used to claim that Darth Malak is 'far more powerful' than both Freedon Nadd and Exar Kun:
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There are a few errors here in the text alone, namely that it was Malak who betrayed Revan. Thus, Malak would not be enraged. Furthermore, the article isn't even aware of the Star Forge. This is because the quote predates the actual Knights of the Old Republic source material.

But perhaps more importantly, this source no longer exists because it was removed by Wizards of the Coast and was replaced, as is noted by Cory J. Herndon; the article's author, himself:

Cory J. Herndon on Twitter wrote:
Since that supplement is no longer even available in its original form, whatever the current official stance is would be the correct one.

Per Cory, the most recent gameplay stats are correct and the article no longer is:

Cory Herndon on Twitter wrote:
If there exist hard, LFL-approved stats that say otherwise about Kun and Malak, follow those.

Which, in case you're wondering is clear from the KotOR:CG:

KotOR: Campaign Guide wrote:

Darth Malak, Sith Magnus Statistics (CL 20)
Medium Human  Jedi 7/Jedi Knight 5/Sith Apprentice  4/Sith Lord 4

Destiny Points: 2; Force Points: 8; Dark Side Score: 15

KotOR: Campaign Guide wrote:

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Medium Human  Jedi 7/Jedi Knight 3/Sith Apprentice 5/Sith Lord 5

Destiny Points: 3; Force Points: 8; Dark Side Score: 15

Darth Malak's concurrent replacement Wizards of the Coast descriptions make no mention of Exar Kun nor Freedon Nadd:

Champions of the Force Preview 5 wrote:
Darth Malak: Four thousand years before the creation of the Empire, the Republic faced many enemies and endured many wars. When the Mandalorians attacked the Republic, the Jedi were split -- join the fighting or stay out of it?
Ultimately, two Jedi ignored the will of the Jedi Council and plunged into battle. Revan and Malak led the Republic forces; the former provided clever tactics, and the latter was relentless and reckless in combat. The two pursued their enemies into the Unknown Regions. They returned as Sith Lords backed by a huge military force from an unknown source.
Darth Malak started as an apprentice but soon became the master. With the Sith forces at his command, he tore through the Republic, razing entire planets. His success was short lived, however, and he fell to an unexpected enemy.

Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide wrote:
Darth Malak was not always a model Dark Lord. He was once a compassionate Jedi Knight. In fact, Republic citizens' sufferings so move the young Jedi Alex Squinquargesimus during the Mandalorian Wars that he rebels-along with his good friend Revan-against the Jedi Council's decree of inaction. The young Jedi helps recruit thousands of Jedi to spearhead the war against he Mandalorians, and they drive back the invaders. Yet sweeping victories correspond all too frequently with proportionately devastating moral compromises. Day by day, Alex perceives himself sliding toward the dark side, but sees no alternative. The horrors of war are not a mystery, and he knew he would face this dilemma.
Just as he intends, Alek saves the galaxy. Victorious against the Mandalorians, he realizes that all his efforts may be for naught if a strong hand does not steer the galaxy. In actuality, besides himself, he knows he can trust only the soldiers he had fought alongside, because they are capable defenders. Sharing these thoughts with Revan, Alek finds his brother-in-arms agrees.
Now Alex understands the dark side. It is named from ignorance: the ignorance of never having killed, or never having ordered friends to their deaths, of always thinking today is your day to die-all for wards, unwilling to fight for their own safety-and ignorance of what it means to wield so much power. Revan, or course, understands completely.
After the Mandalorian Wars, Alek and Revan subsume themselves in Korriban and Malachor V's Sith occultism and use the Star Forge super weapon to churn out war material almost limitless. Alek then becomes Darth Malak of the remade Sith Empire, apprentice to Darth Revan. The Republic conquest initially goes well, but in time, Malak ses Lord Revan as soft, resulting in a tension that culminates in a lightsaber duel; Malak loses his lower jaw to Revan's blade, necessitating a metallic jaw guard. Returning the favor, Malak fires on Revan's flagship. Unaware that the Jedi have captured the traitor, Malak assumes the crown of ruling Dark Lord, inheriting the empire. With Admiral Saul Karath, Malak's fleet spreads terror and he cultivates Darth Bandon and Bastila Shan as his pupils. However, Malak faces Revan again, this time as a reconditioned Jedi. In the rematch, Malak's twisted dream of protecting the galaxy dies with him.

In the actual KotOR games and source material, which came out after said article. It is established that SF!Bastila Shan is on par with the likes of Vrook Lamar:

Bastila Shan, Knights of the Old Republic wrote:
"The Dark Side has made me stronger than I ever was before! I have a greater command of the Force than all but the most powerful Jedi masters."

Those Jedi Masters include Vrook Lamar per Bastila herself:

Bastila Shan, Knights of the Old Republic wrote:
"Even the Sith would think twice before attacking Dantooine. There are many Jedi here, including several of the most powerful Masters of the Order. There is great strength within this place."

As well as Zez Kai-Ell and Kavar, who can teach the Force form Force Mastery:

Kreia, Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords wrote:
"It is a great technique that you have learned. Gifted only to the highest of Jedi Masters - and the Sith - this technique makes your Force powers more difficult to resist... and they will last longer as well."

Bastila Shan per her own admission, on the Star Forge, is only as powerful as the aforementioned Jedi Masters, individually. Yet Bastila Shan gives Revan a good fight:

Knights of the Old Republic Official Prima Game Guide wrote:
[/size]Combat is fraught and frantic, but [ends with Revan's] victory.

To such a degree that she can afford to simultaneously close a giant Rakatan door with a 'great' amount of her power:

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Knights of the Old Republic wrote:
This door is held closed by some great power.

So if this incarnation of Bastila is only as powerful as those Jedi Masters are individually, then Traya must dwarf her in power as she was powerful enough to simultaneously Sever Force and Triumvirate Drain all three at once:

SWTOR Codex Entry wrote:
Part of Kreia’s plan involved decimating the Jedi Order. On Dantooine, Kreia severed Masters Vrook Lmar, Kavar, and Zez-Kai Ell from the Force, killing them within the Jedi Enclave.

So not only was Traya more powerful than all three combined, she managed to absorb their power. Yet Darth Traya is not as powerful as Darth Nihilus, by a considerable margin per Traya's own admission:

Kreia, Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords wrote:
“One cannot have power of that magnitude and still think and perceive the universe as we do."

Perhaps more definitively, we know for a fact that the dark side only gained in power after Darth Malak had died and the Star Forge destroyed, due to Darth Nihilus's rise in power:

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In fact, if you wanted a direct comparison, the dark side shroud is even stronger during the Dark Wars than it is during the Jedi Civil War:

Bastila Shan wrote:
"We should have felt a disturbance in the Force when the attack came. The fact that we did not is a bad sign. I fear the dark side is growing stronger, casting shadows our vision cannot piece."

Bastila wrote:
"Did you feel that? A disturbance in the Force. The Admiral has sent is message, the Dark Lord knows we are here now. Malak is coming... We better get moving. I can feel the darkness of Malak's presence approaching, and I don't want to be here when he arrives. None of us is a match for the Sith Lord."

In the Dark Wars, the dark side didn't just cloud the fact that Darth Nihilus, one of the most powerful Sith of all-time, was approaching to one of the greatest gatherings of Jedi since the Exar Kun War:

The Conclave At Katarr Codex Entry wrote:
Worse, many Jedi sensed a new Sith threat emerging but could not pinpoint the source. Finally, the Jedi Council called a conclave on the Miraluka colony of Katarr. The order’s Masters, including the legendary Vandar Tokare, gathered to discuss the possibility that the Sith had returned. They did not know that Darth Nihilus, a being of pure hunger and dark side power, was approaching the colony.

But it was literally strong enough that it caused palpable terror across the Republic so potent the Sith could feed on it:

The Essential Atlas wrote:
The Sith seemed to have achieved the victory they had long sought. Less than one hundred Jedi, nearly all of them in hiding, survived the Sith's purge. Many citizens took this unimaginable event as proof that the Force had turned malevolent, or that cosmic balance was nothing more than a story for children. Despair was palpable, and many planets offered only halfhearted and ragged defense against Sith attackers. Planets throughout the slice surrendered, and the Sith fed on the psychic misery of a shattered Republic.

Darth Nihilus himself is below or at best, on par with Freedon Nadd. Firstly, Visas Marr his Shadow Hand, deems Nadd 'truly great' merely by sensing his tomb's power:

Visas Marr, Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords wrote:
"I can taste the power of the dark side here. Freedon Nadd must have been truly great to leave such an impact. The echoes of his life are still here."

And furthermore, Kreia states that she fears Nihilus might already be as powerful as some of the ancients whom Nadd is one of the greatest among:

Kreia, Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords wrote:
"It is a technique that has been lost for some time. Not seen in the days since the ancient Sith. They can use it to consume other force sensitives... The blind seer, her master harnessed this technique and he is rapidly approaching the height of its power. I fear he may even rival some of the ancient Sith."

She knows this because she has studied the Telos holocrons:

Chris Avellone wrote:
"Kreia is setting the stage for what we imagined KOTOR3 to be, and as we had a sense for the power that we wanted those Sith Lords to reveal, her predictions are accurate. And yes, she had a number of Sith holocrons that she had read (the ones on Telos)."

But even more indicative is that the Triumvirate is actively attempting to resurrect Freedon Nadd:

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Sith Captain, Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords wrote:
"The Sith Master says we'll have reinforcements soon, when I ask for details he says it's a 'surprise'. I hate the ones with a sense of humor."

Darth Nihilus wants Freedon Nadd's power for the Triumvirate, indicating a significant disparity:

Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords Official Prima Game Guide wrote:
Whether because you want to deny them Freedon Nadd's power or because you refuse to share it with anyone else, you have no choice but to fight.

The KotOR 1&2 source material has (Exar Kun >> Marka Ragnos > Cinnagar!Kun >) Freedon Nadd > Darth Nihilus > Darth Malak. Far more reliable and up to date source material than a deleted and irrelevant article.

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on Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:06 am
Fixed the first post, will work on the second.

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on Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:49 pm
Great thread. I'll read it more thoroughly later, but note the comic doesn't indicate Vodo alone disarmed Droma. It seems to have been a group effort.
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on Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:21 am
@DarthAnt66 wrote:Great thread. I'll read it more thoroughly later, but note the comic doesn't indicate Vodo alone disarmed Droma. It seems to have been a group effort.

Well, the group disarms Ulic and all his men. But Vodo himself takes Ulic's lightsaber. That's besides the fact that several years earlier, Ulic nearly killed all of Vodo's companions. But you are nonetheless correct.
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on Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:56 pm
Part 2 is now updated.
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on Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:13 am
This thread has been considerably updated, please do read if you are interested.
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on Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:33 am
i did. its a good ass respect thread. i gotta learn how to format them here just as u guys do.
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on Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:56 am
Why, thank you.
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on Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:05 am
Aww you guys made up

Nice respect thread, you really reppin Kun for the forum
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on Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:58 am
Thread further updated.
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on Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:44 pm
Where/ what was updated?
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on Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:46 pm
I added a blurb in the spirit post clarifying Kyp's superiority to Luke.
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on Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:26 pm
with or without the nexus, exar kun amp?
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on Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:29 pm
The blurb isn't inclusive of any external factors.
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on Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:45 am
Updated both parts of the thread thoroughly.
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on Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:23 pm
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Excellent RT.
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on Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:09 am
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on Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:38 pm
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What lightsaber form did he use to do this? Reverse cowgirl?
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on Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:09 am
im confused as to when some of the accolades/feats/statements actually refer too in kun's lifetime/timeframe. u think u can explain it a bit better? putting on some years next to the statements perhaps? or maybe making a scaling chain like i did.
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on Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:10 am
They're all in chronological order.
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on Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:18 am
i just wanted to know how much of a difference in time it is for each of them. im not savy enough to understand it all just from reading the quotes lol
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on Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:21 am
Unfortunately, there is no exact time frame of events for the Great Sith War. Only that it was over four years long.

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on Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:18 am
Nice post, got some questions/suggestions:

1. Where do you hold Kun relative to DE Sidious and Valkorion?
2. You should add your case for debunking the Malak > Kun quote as an addendum. It’d be good to see your full case all in one spot.
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