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MasterCilghal
MasterCilghal
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Dooku and Asajj Ventress vs Bane and Zannah  Empty Dooku and Asajj Ventress vs Bane and Zannah

August 18th 2019, 10:25 am
- standard rules
HellfireUnit
HellfireUnit
Level Six
Level Six

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August 18th 2019, 10:26 am
Version?
MasterCilghal
MasterCilghal
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Level Three

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August 18th 2019, 10:28 am
Standard rules means all are at their peak (DOE Bane and Zannah, RoTS Dooku and Ventress towards the end of the war)
blackymarket
blackymarket

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August 18th 2019, 10:30 am
Decent fight, Bane is the MVP. Asajj is the small weak link.
The Lost
The Lost
Level Five
Level Five

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August 18th 2019, 10:33 am
Zannah could lowkey break Ventress' mind, and possibly do a number on Dooku's as well. Although I don't think she'd be too effective in a duel against either.

Dooku is better than Bane, and I'm sure Ventress would at least perform admirably against him.

Good fight.
HellfireUnit
HellfireUnit
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August 18th 2019, 10:35 am
Either way, Ventress is a weak link. Dooku should overwhelm Bane or Zannah though.
SithSauce
SithSauce
Level One
Level One

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August 18th 2019, 11:02 am
Dooku is better than both, but he needs a better partner. Team 2 wins
The Adventurous Jedi
The Adventurous Jedi
Level Seven
Level Seven

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August 18th 2019, 2:45 pm
Team 1.
The Witness
The Witness

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August 18th 2019, 2:46 pm
NotAA3 wrote:Team 1.
Stylistically this is a terrible match up for Dooku. He is going up against a skilled djem so user and a skilled soresu user. Sound familiar?
HeartoftheForce
HeartoftheForce
Level Two
Level Two

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August 18th 2019, 3:02 pm
Dooku solos. Ventress can beat either
Blade_of_Dorin
Blade_of_Dorin
Level One
Level One

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August 18th 2019, 3:09 pm
Dooku solos
The Adventurous Jedi
The Adventurous Jedi
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August 18th 2019, 3:27 pm
Sam wrote:
NotAA3 wrote:Team 1.
Stylistically this is a terrible match up for Dooku. He is going up against a skilled djem so user and a skilled soresu user. Sound familiar?

Bane is nowhere near as strong as Anakin and Zannah while close to Kenobi still isn't as good. Not to mention Dooku in that fight performed rather well given the circumstances, managing to knock Kenobi out of the fight with TK twice finishing him for good the second time. And in this fight, he has a partner to back him up so overall I don't see the point in your comparison.
Jake
Jake
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August 18th 2019, 3:33 pm
Ventress has taken better duos pre-prime.
HellfireUnit
HellfireUnit
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Level Six

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August 18th 2019, 3:34 pm
I agree that Ventress performed well against better duos but those didn't use Sith Sorcery and Dark Side techniques in the battle. Otherwise Ventress is superior to both in sabers.
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Quorian Debatist
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August 18th 2019, 7:32 pm
HellfireUnit wrote:I agree that Ventress performed well against better duos but those didn't use Sith Sorcery and Dark Side techniques in the battle. Otherwise Ventress is superior to both in sabers.

What if Ventress was switched out with Kit Fisto?
HeartoftheForce
HeartoftheForce
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Level Two

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August 18th 2019, 7:39 pm
Lol
dark_globe
dark_globe

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August 18th 2019, 7:49 pm
Sam wrote:
NotAA3 wrote:Team 1.
Stylistically this is a terrible match up for Dooku. He is going up against a skilled djem so user and a skilled soresu user. Sound familiar?
style can only carry you so far ...
anakin was "the" master of djem so with his rage amp .
obi wan was "the" master of soresu ...
bane and zannah are not even close to be the best in those styles .
O-Siri
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August 18th 2019, 8:22 pm
Bane keeps them occupied with his lightning while Zannah zaps them with her sorcery. Even giving them the benefit of the doubt they can willpower their way through the spell, it will still take precious seconds, seconds enough for Bane to finish off both of them while they are down.
dark_globe
dark_globe

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August 18th 2019, 8:25 pm
O-Siri wrote:Bane keeps them occupied with his lightning while Zannah zaps them with her sorcery. Even giving them the benefit of the doubt they can willpower their way through the spell, it will still take precious seconds, seconds enough for Bane to finish off both of them while they are down.
nah ...
team 1 wins . dooku might solo on his best day ...
HeartoftheForce
HeartoftheForce
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August 18th 2019, 8:28 pm
Usually I would say Zannah throws herself into a wall. But I doubt she’d even get the chance against these two
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MP
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August 18th 2019, 8:52 pm
Dooku and Ventress win, but it's a relatively good fight.
O-Siri
O-Siri

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August 18th 2019, 9:02 pm
Greysentinel365 wrote:Usually I would say Zannah throws herself into a wall. But I doubt she’d even get the chance against these two
That "innate barrier" quote only applies to basic telepathy, it doesn't address the far more complex and difficult to defend against sorcery, which isn't even telepathy in a basic sense. Telepathy doesn't require a spell, Sorcery isn't the same thing. 

So Leia managed to keep Luke from peaking into her subconscious. Big whoop. She protected herself from the most basic form of telepathy. Not even remotely similar to weaponized sorcery created by the dark side energies comparable to sith lightning which can shred even active Force defenses.
Shioz
Shioz

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August 19th 2019, 3:02 am
Dooku solo.
HellfireUnit
HellfireUnit
Level Six
Level Six

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August 19th 2019, 3:09 am
Quorian Debatist wrote:
HellfireUnit wrote:I agree that Ventress performed well against better duos but those didn't use Sith Sorcery and Dark Side techniques in the battle. Otherwise Ventress is superior to both in sabers.

What if Ventress was switched out with Kit Fisto?

They should win then (inb4 Ventress stomped Fisto comments).
HellfireUnit
HellfireUnit
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August 19th 2019, 3:15 am
I am still waiting for an actual arguement why Dooku and Ventress should win. Dooku is obviously superior to both by a significant margin but what makes people think Dooku can defend himself from Zannah's spells and could Ventress contend with either of the combatants, who possess great knowledge and mastery of Force techniques?
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