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LOTL

Mustafar Vader vs Count Dooku Empty Mustafar Vader vs Count Dooku

July 23rd 2019, 10:47 am
Exact same circumstances but this time it is the Count that faces him on Mustafar
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July 23rd 2019, 10:49 am
Vader creams
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July 23rd 2019, 10:49 am
No troll replies
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July 23rd 2019, 10:50 am
Sorry what?
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July 23rd 2019, 10:53 am
LOTL wrote:No troll replies

This
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July 23rd 2019, 10:56 am
Not a troll reply. MFV Vader is explicitly a 9. He wins unless Dooku finds a way to throw him off guard with dun moch. If not, then I stand by my original (non-troll) post:

Vader creams
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July 23rd 2019, 10:57 am
By creams you mean stomps or something? Because that is the convention
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July 23rd 2019, 10:58 am
Vader
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July 23rd 2019, 11:01 am
Well Vader is going to beat Dooku in a minute or less imo
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July 23rd 2019, 11:04 am
The dragon's venomous bite might make Anakin a little bit more vulnerable to psychological warfare, but physically he still got the Count outmatched, as he is still a 9, and the anguish at his need to kill Obi-Wan(which I assume applies to this matchup) actually strengthened him.

Really it was Kenobi's defensive focus that enabled him to survive long enough to get the high ground advantage. Dooku doesn't have the stamina or the defensive talents to marathon this.


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July 23rd 2019, 11:07 am
Who’s to say Dooku isn’t as defensively viable as Kenobi?
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July 23rd 2019, 11:10 am
If he is as viable as Kenobi in defense then how do you expect Vader to beat him in less than a minute?
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July 23rd 2019, 11:14 am
Remember the stuff in the RotS novel about being as intimate as lovers?
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July 23rd 2019, 11:16 am
Goes both ways

Certainly not going to prolong it 9 times more lmfao
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July 23rd 2019, 11:17 am
Certainly does in the case of Qui-Gon and Obi
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July 23rd 2019, 11:28 am
Yeah because if anyone is going to exploit a familiarity advantage easily and instinctively it is going to be the 17 year old kid that has been trained as a formal apprentice for 4 years only, seen limited experience and has sparred much less number of Jedi much less number of times than the 53 year old Jedi Master that is not only incredibly intuitive on dueling by having much more experience but is also more self aware, more graceful, more technically skilled etc. than the kid. Yeah, that is very believable. In any case this is a matter to be elaborated in our debate and not of import in this discussion

Furthermore nowhere has the dynamic between Jinn and Kenobi been stated to be like the one between him and Skywalker and not all masters and apprentices have such an intimate dynamic going both their bases


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July 23rd 2019, 11:31 am
Both Jinn and Kenobi were noted to have a mutual advantage, what's your point? It wasn't one-sided in the spar anymore than on Mustafar. It's only one-sided if only one guy knows the style of the other, like Venamis vs Plagueis or in a hypothetical match-up between Jinn or Post-TPM Kenobi.


Who’s to say Dooku isn’t as defensively viable as Kenobi?
 Because the RotS Novel heavily stresses Kenobi's supremacy as the defensive master?


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July 23rd 2019, 11:34 am
Yeah so it is not extremely skewed for either of them. That is the main point
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July 23rd 2019, 11:37 am
Imo this is a good fight in any case. I can't see Vader beating him in less than a minute
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July 23rd 2019, 11:39 am
LOTL wrote:Yeah so it is not extremely skewed for either of them. That is the main point

Sorry I made my reply to MP's the same time as you; I should have tagged him so it was clear I was responding to him not you.
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July 23rd 2019, 1:39 pm
Vader creams
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July 23rd 2019, 2:09 pm
Vader creampies
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July 23rd 2019, 2:17 pm
Azronger wrote:Vader creampies
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July 23rd 2019, 2:44 pm
Dooku
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July 23rd 2019, 5:38 pm
Dooku gets flattened again.
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