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Master Azronger
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on October 7th 2020, 2:42 am
@Idyllic77 Welcome to the forum. From where do you hail?

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Meatpants
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on October 7th 2020, 7:58 am
Stops at Sidious, yeah.
Idyllic77
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on October 7th 2020, 3:26 pm
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O-Siri
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on October 7th 2020, 8:13 pm
@Sjuttiosju wrote:
And yet you haven't shown any alternatives, nor given proof Kenobi can execute them.

All Kenobi needs to do is wait for Anakin’s fragile psyche to break. He also had him floored and disarmed at one point.

because we know from the way Nick frames it that Anakin was eventually going to win,

Anakin being a higher level physically in no way guarantees him a victory. Gillard also says there’s a mental aspect which was key in Obi-Wan’s victory. Because Anakin advanced to quickly he never mastered the mental aspect, unlike Yoda and Mace. Even if he gets past Obi-Wan he’s not getting past Mace or Yoda who are physically comparable yet mentally superior.


Or he can just outlast him with his Sidious level force reserves...

Anakin is just as likely to break mentally as Kenobi is physically.
DarthFatcow
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on October 8th 2020, 11:27 am
Yeah, definitely stops at Sidious.
Master Azronger
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on October 8th 2020, 12:42 pm
@Idyllic77 Nice, welcome aboard.

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SnowxElf
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on October 8th 2020, 1:58 pm
It's debatable whether Mustafar Vader is more powerful than Invisible Hand Anakin or not, both are stronger than previous incarnations though for sure. Anakin had difficulty seeing Palpatine and Windu duel from sheer speed in the office duel which makes me believe he isn't on that level.

OT: stops at Yoda, or maybe Mace if he gets lucky
Sjuttiosju
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on October 8th 2020, 4:50 pm
@O-Siri:

All Kenobi needs to do is wait for Anakin’s fragile psyche to break.

The idea of Anakin's psyche breaking to a point where he becomes beatable in combat is completely baseless, and given the only instance of anything resembling it occurring also had Kenobi holding an environmental edge, the only evidence on the subject actually contradicts your POV that he can replicate it on neutral ground.

He also had him floored and disarmed at one point.

He couldn't follow through, so this is irrelevant.

Anakin being a higher level physically in no way guarantees him a victory. Gillard also says there’s a mental aspect which was key in Obi-Wan’s victory. Because Anakin advanced to quickly he never mastered the mental aspect, unlike Yoda and Mace. Even if he gets past Obi-Wan he’s not getting past Mace or Yoda who are physically comparable yet mentally superior.

Nick alludes to the mental aspect because it's what let Kenobi triumph on Mustafar, but due to the fact that this fight is on neutral ground it doesn't have the same environmental circumstances, and thus Kenobi cannot leverage Anakin's mental inadequacies in the same way, ergo physical superiority is all that's relevant.

Anakin is just as likely to break mentally as Kenobi is physically.

Thoroughly debunked above.
HellfireUnit
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on October 8th 2020, 6:55 pm
Don't see why Anakin should beat Kenobi yet alone Yoda
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on October 8th 2020, 8:25 pm
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