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DarthAnt66
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Mara Jade Skywalker vs Cade Skywalker Empty Mara Jade Skywalker vs Cade Skywalker

on Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:52 am
All out. Who wins?
DarthAdi
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Mara Jade Skywalker vs Cade Skywalker Empty Re: Mara Jade Skywalker vs Cade Skywalker

on Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:40 am
Cade probably.
HeartoftheForce
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on Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:00 pm
Could go either way. Easiest parallel is with Aurra, Aalya and Talon. Caedus needed a surprise and a fear/rage amp to hold Aurra and she still overpowered him. Now mind you this was post prime Aurra and Talon is credited with being sub Aalya as well but they would be relative.

Mara slammed Caedus despite taking injuries several times greater than his and not being able to draw on them. In addition to her superiority to Katarn who was beating Caedus later.

Leaning Mara


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Jedi_Jesus
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on Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:36 pm
Cade to be honest.
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Mara Jade Skywalker vs Cade Skywalker Empty Re: Mara Jade Skywalker vs Cade Skywalker

on Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:17 pm
In a real-world fight, Mara would win because Cade won't go all-out against a woman. They'll stalemate and it will ultimately end like his confrontation with Talon:

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Master Azronger
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on Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:11 pm
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Mara is Cade's great-grandmother.

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HeartoftheForce
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on Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:56 pm
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on Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:16 am
@Master Azronger wrote:Mara is Cade's great-grandmother.
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Mara Jade Skywalker vs Cade Skywalker Empty Re: Mara Jade Skywalker vs Cade Skywalker

on Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:43 am
Leaning Mara

>"Mara struggled to bring down 1.5m of ceiling."
>Cade is effortlessly throwing much bigger shuttle debris a considerable distance well before his prime.

Mara Jade Skywalker vs Cade Skywalker 1668617588 How do you even rationalise these positions? And no clue why you're using Talon as an anchor to assess Cade when he stomped her in their final fight.
Master Azronger
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Mara Jade Skywalker vs Cade Skywalker Empty Re: Mara Jade Skywalker vs Cade Skywalker

on Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:14 am
@HeartoftheForce wrote:Talon is credited with being sub Aalya as well but they would be relative.

Yeah, citation needed.

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on Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:51 am
@Master Azronger: It's an author quote IIRC, so it has no validity as an authority.
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on Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:01 am
Cade
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on Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:56 am
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on Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:26 am
I would ask you for your reasoning.

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on Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:38 am
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on Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:57 pm
@Sith Archivist wrote:Cade
xolthol
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on Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:28 pm
I can see a case made for both but I'm leaning toward Mara Jade
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on Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:22 pm
Cade wins
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on Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:24 pm
Close fight, but I’m going with Mara
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Mara Jade Skywalker vs Cade Skywalker Empty Re: Mara Jade Skywalker vs Cade Skywalker

on Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:49 am
@xolthol wrote:I can see a case made for both but I'm leaning toward Mara Jade

Why?
HeartoftheForce
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Mara Jade Skywalker vs Cade Skywalker Empty Re: Mara Jade Skywalker vs Cade Skywalker

on Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:59 am
Oh yeah I forgot about this.

There's no evidence that Death Sticks hinder ones force connection anytime other than when they are directly in use. And Cades throwing of the ship boils down to an emotional outburst under strain or Flash of Brilliance type moment. Much akin to 13 year old Kenobi setting up a TK shield that Qui-Gon considered the powerful effort of the force he had ever seen. Putting Kenobi above Yoda tier if you wish to buy this logic. 

There is zero evidence whatsoever that Cade ever learned to harness that output on his own. The debris feat is not his baseline.
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on Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:23 am
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