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Darth Malgus & Darth Jadus vs Darth Marr & Darth Nox  Empty Darth Malgus & Darth Jadus vs Darth Marr & Darth Nox

on September 18th 2020, 4:44 pm
The Dark Council rogues versus essentials. Peak Malgus, Jadus, and Marr. SOR Nox. Who wins?


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on September 18th 2020, 4:48 pm
Marr is not in the trio's ballpark. At the time of Jadus he was iirc confirmed as second only to Vitiate. Jadus and Onslaught Malgus could both present a credible threat to Nox alone and both are enough to overpower him. Marr isn't doing much here. Leaning towards Essentials
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on September 19th 2020, 1:42 am
Malgus might solo, his Onslaught incarnation is by far better than anyone else here.

Jadus is limited, so you're having to take everything at face value if you actually use him. So if we do take Jadus as being no.2 Sith, he might well be > Dread Masters and who knows what other scaling. So I'd put him over either of his opposition.
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on September 19th 2020, 5:40 am
Team 1.
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on September 19th 2020, 7:25 am
I have Jadus above Marr, but Nox above Malgus, though I think the latter gap might be wider.

Hmmm, tentatively team 2, though I could be swayed to back team 1.
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on September 19th 2020, 9:33 am
@Unending Void Marr is said to be the most powerful Dark Council member and was unimpressed by Nox's threats even after witnessing them destroy Thanaton first-hand. Jadus's accolade of being second only to Vitiate comes from a non-Force-user.

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on September 19th 2020, 11:35 am
@Master Azronger wrote:@Unending Void Marr is said to be the most powerful Dark Council member and was unimpressed by Nox's threats even after witnessing them destroy Thanaton first-hand. Jadus's accolade of being second only to Vitiate comes from a non-Force-user.

To be fair, that was a Nox still growing exponentially in power. Nowhere near his prime. Perhaps Marr is not that far beneath him, and maybe better than Nox at the end of the vanilla SI story but I wouldn't go as far as to say they are peers.

As for Darth Jadus you're correct but whether or not we take that quote seriously he is still ambiguous and there's not much to go off of regarding where he stands.
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on September 19th 2020, 11:46 am
Depending on how seriously you take the statement of Jadus being the second most powerful Sith, he either solos or get's beaten by either Nox or Marr.
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on September 19th 2020, 2:46 pm
Jadus (while powerful) seems like the least powerful and even less skilled here. Malgus by Onslaught might be at the top here, but I doubt he's > Marr/Nox to a higher degree than they're > Jadus. Its also the matter that Marr and Nox have more impressive force feats/abilities by my knowledge
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on September 19th 2020, 8:48 pm
@Master Azronger wrote:@Unending Void Marr is said to be the most powerful Dark Council member and was unimpressed by Nox's threats even after witnessing them destroy Thanaton first-hand.

This quote would only apply to Nox, however.

@Master Azronger wrote:Jadus's accolade of being second only to Vitiate comes from a non-Force-user.

Half right. Tenebrae confirms it himself:

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on September 20th 2020, 3:34 am
He says best, not the strongest. And Marr's quote does apply to Jadus.

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on September 20th 2020, 5:04 am
@Master Azronger wrote:He says best, not the strongest. And Marr's quote does apply to Jadus.

Best over-all, yes. He continues to say he was still no match for the Outlander's power. So that context and the other no.2 quote basically feed into one-another. I understand if you disagree.

Marr's quote applies well after both Malgus and Jadus left the Sith Empire.
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on September 20th 2020, 7:49 am
No, Jadus is still listed as a Dark Council member in the same article where Marr's accolade comes from.

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on September 20th 2020, 8:34 am
The codex entry stating he's second-to-none is from Makeb. All the other quotes he has aren't nearly as definitive.
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on September 20th 2020, 10:03 am
I'm referring to TORE. The codex entry may not even refer to combat.

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LadyKulvax
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on September 20th 2020, 10:07 am
The TOR:E quotes he has doesn't put him > Jadus at all.
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