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SithSauce
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Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan) Empty Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan)

on Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:39 am
standard rules
Batfleck has no armour


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NotAA3
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Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan) Empty Re: Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan)

on Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:55 am
Total mismatch, either of team 2 solos.
Sjuttiosju
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on Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:05 pm
Mismatch. Either solos.
HellfireUnit
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Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan) Empty Re: Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan)

on Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:57 am
Set, The God of Chaos wrote:Total mismatch, either of team 2 solos.

you have never been so wrong lol
Sjuttiosju
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Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan) Empty Re: Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan)

on Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:25 am
@HellfireUnit Nah, it's true. Either solos.
The lord of hunger
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Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan) Empty Re: Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan)

on Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:21 am
what dc said
HellfireUnit
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Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan) Empty Re: Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan)

on Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:27 am
Baleman literally has no skills, gadgets or anything else to deal with Battfleck. Bane isn't any better. Wanking Baleman is hilarious as fuck.
SithSauce
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Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan) Empty Re: Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan)

on Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:38 pm
@HellfireUnit wrote:Baleman literally has no skills, gadgets or anything else to deal with Battfleck. Bane isn't any better. Wanking Baleman is hilarious as fuck.
tbh. That and Batfleck has far more experience given that he is based of the Dark Knight Returns version and is far more brutal in combat
Sjuttiosju
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Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan) Empty Re: Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan)

on Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:21 pm
@SithSauce @HellfireUnit:

Alright, I'll make this simple.

>Nolan Bruce is more skilled, as indicated by his ability to suffer nothing more than a kick while fighting 4 LOS armed with swords in confined space. This is in stark contrast to Batfleck getting tagged in the head with a knife while fighting 4 inferior Mercs armed with knives.
>Nolan Bruce is stronger physically, as demonstrated by his ability to rip up a bolted down chair, something Batfleck has no consistent feats to compare too.
>Bane hits harder than Batfleck as indicated by his ability to smash up pillars, and Bruce took 6 of his hits in rapid succession without any serious impact, demonstrating that Batfleck's hits will accomplish little.
>Batfleck's experience amounts to nothing when compared with actual feats.

So yes, Nolan Bruce can solo via being both stronger + more skilled + tanky enough to take his blows. Bane is much the same. Now, quit it with the increduility please.


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Latham2000
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on Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:39 pm
What about Batfleck's gadgets? Wouldn't they be arguably superior, given that Batfleck is a more comic book orientated Batman, as opposed to Baleman being a more realistic, grounded Batman? The OP's "standard rules" don't tell us if this is just straight h2h or any tactics and techniques allowed.
Sjuttiosju
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on Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:46 pm
@Latham2000 I honestly don't think either of them has anything that the other can't just avoid with quick reflexes and in character they go for hand to hand pretty quick.
HellfireUnit
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on Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:02 am
Bro, prime Baleman struggles with dogs and a clown with crowbar. No need to argue further. He just sucks.
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on Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:26 am
The only thing the duo has on Batfleck is skill & maybe pure speed & blunt force durability maybe (Bale beat 12 armed thugs in 36 seconds in Batman Begins & the infamous taxi drop in the Dark Knight - both of which Bane sort of scales to, kind of) Other than that: 

Strength - Batfleck. This one is obvious. He hits a grown man so hard that his body completely flips over & his head gets stuck in the ground. He throws a man with such force that he shatters a concrete wall. He kicks a man (hanging from his grapple wire) so hard that, not only does he break the wire, he sends the guy flying about 30 ft. He did this with a round house kick BTW. And finally, the pièce de rèsistance: his entire fight with Superman. And before you say anything: the armor did not effect his strength, just durability. So the part where he whips Supes through incredibly thick pillars? Yeah, that was his own strength. 

Agility: Let's show off his really weird comic booky agility (skip to 2:29 if it is not there already) 

Just going off of those few seconds alone, he shows greater agility than either Baleman or Bane. 

Durability: Ok, let's face it, B&B are probably not going to produce enough force to actually KO Batfleck. He was able to engage Parademons in prolonged bouts. The same Parademons that could rip apart the Batmobile piece by piece & fight Amazons. He also, although injured, got up immediately & could function after being punched by Superman, sent flying, and then crashing into a patrol car.  

Actually now, after looking over his feats, Batman is more comparable to CW Arrow or pre-Civil War Cap. He should actually stomp just off of pure physicals.
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Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan) Empty Re: Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan)

on Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:30 am
Actually now, after looking over his feats, Batman is more comparable to CW Arrow or pre-Civil War Cap.

Fucking lol.

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Sjuttiosju
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Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan) Empty Re: Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan)

on Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:52 am
@The Slick Obi:

Strength - Batfleck. This one is obvious. He hits a grown man so hard that his body completely flips over & his head gets stuck in the ground.

You're conflating striking and strength. That aside, what's the basis for this being above Bane shattering pillars, someone who's hits Bruce was tanking?

He throws a man with such force that he shatters a concrete wall.

Citation needed.

He kicks a man (hanging from his grapple wire) so hard that, not only does he break the wire, he sends the guy flying about 30 ft.

Again you're conflating striking and strength. Regardless I need a citation for this.

And finally, the pièce de rèsistance: his entire fight with Superman. And before you say anything: the armor did not effect his strength, just durability. So the part where he whips Supes through incredibly thick pillars? Yeah, that was his own strength.

It's pretty clearly an outlier given the workout scene, where he struggles with feats requiring far less strength. Nothing you've posted that I remember matches Nolan Bruce ripping up a bolted down chair so unless you can adequately cite what I've asked for then Bruce is physically stronger.

Agility: Let's show off his really weird comic booky agility (skip to 2:29 if it is not there already)

Fancy moves won't save him.

Ok, let's face it, B&B are probably not going to produce enough force to actually KO Batfleck. He was able to engage Parademons in prolonged bouts. The same Parademons that could rip apart the Batmobile piece by piece & fight Amazons. He also, although injured, got up immediately & could function after being punched by Superman, sent flying, and then crashing into a patrol car.

Given both characters here are physically stronger they can overpower and choke him out, there's no requirement for subduing him through punching and kicking him. You've not proved the reverse is true either, and if Bane's smashing of pillars is any indication he hits harder than Batfleck, yet Bruce was soaking up his hits just fine.

Actually now, after looking over his feats, Batman is more comparable to CW Arrow or pre-Civil War Cap.

The same Cap that was throwing around motorbikes? He snaps Batfleck in half like a twig.

@HellfireUnit

Bro, prime Baleman struggles with dogs and a clown with crowbar. No need to argue further. He just sucks.

Proof TDK is his prime? And those showings are fairly clearly inconsistent.


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HellfireUnit
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Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan) Empty Re: Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan)

on Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:06 am
Bro DC, have you watched the movie? That warehouse scene alone displays his feats.
Sjuttiosju
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Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan) Empty Re: Batfleck vs Bane and Batman (Nolan)

on Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:13 am
The warehouse scene contains nothing in skill or physicals that Nolan Bruce can't rep as displayed in my 2 posts.
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