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Blade_of_Dorin
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ESB Luke vs S7 Ahsoka Empty ESB Luke vs S7 Ahsoka

on May 29th 2020, 2:36 pm
Canon Only

Round 1: Sabers Only
Round 2: Force Only
Round 3: All-out

- Provide reasons
Nute_Chethray
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on May 29th 2020, 3:13 pm
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Galan007
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on May 29th 2020, 5:29 pm
ESB-era Luke hasn't done enough in canon to make me think he could take any of the rounds against Ahsoka.
HellfireUnit
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on May 29th 2020, 9:25 pm
Don't see how Ahsoka beating this Luke tbh

SithSauce
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on May 30th 2020, 8:50 am
@HellfireUnit wrote:Don't see how Ahsoka beating this Luke tbh


@Hellfireunit Luke was in the "this was the man who killed my father" mindset which explains his aggressive performance. There's no reason he can replicate this against Ahsoka who he has no personal familarity or vendetta against.
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on May 30th 2020, 12:33 pm
@SithSauce wrote:
@HellfireUnit wrote:Don't see how Ahsoka beating this Luke tbh


@Hellfireunit Luke was in the "this was the man who killed my father" mindset which explains his aggressive performance. There's no reason he can replicate this against Ahsoka who he has no personal familarity or vendetta against.

Despite that, Luke' advanced maneuvers and skill with saber is clearly shown in the video. 

And if we were to consider S7 Ahsoka's performance, we can say the exactly same thing. Filoni and Witwer explains characters' motives and ambitions determined their performance. Ahsoka was fighting against the renegade Sith Lord with absolute determination, to save and help the people of Mandalore. Even more so after she heard Maul's plans against Anakin. Why would she fight against a young untrained boy with the same mindset?
The lord of hunger
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ESB Luke vs S7 Ahsoka Empty Re: ESB Luke vs S7 Ahsoka

on May 30th 2020, 2:40 pm
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Seturna
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on May 30th 2020, 3:03 pm
”Provide reasons”
The lord of hunger
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on May 30th 2020, 5:21 pm
@Seturna wrote:
”Provide reasons”
facing a more powerful adversary than maul and literally at least holding his own against it even if in the end vader basically chop off his hand.
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on May 30th 2020, 5:38 pm
@The lord of hunger wrote:
@Seturna wrote:
”Provide reasons”
facing a more powerful adversary than maul and literally at least holding his own against it even if in the end vader basically chop off his hand.

What about Vader being pre-prime and not unleashing his full might against Luke?
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on May 30th 2020, 6:30 pm
@HellfireUnit wrote:
@The lord of hunger wrote:
@Seturna wrote:
”Provide reasons”
facing a more powerful adversary than maul and literally at least holding his own against it even if in the end vader basically chop off his hand.

What about Vader being pre-prime and not unleashing his full might against Luke?
rebels vader is prime according to hidalgo and even then the fact that luke was able to face a being who is beyond dooku impresses me more than facing post sod maul
Galan007
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on May 30th 2020, 8:22 pm
Vader was not trying to kill Luke -- he wanted Luke to join him.

Not sure how fighting an opponent who is intentionally holding back indicates that Luke is superior to Ahsoka..?


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The lord of hunger
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on May 30th 2020, 8:23 pm
Got any canon quote that states vader was holding back?
Galan007
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on May 30th 2020, 8:34 pm
Jedi vs. Sith states that Vader's power and lightsaber skills were greater than Luke's during ESB. We also know that Vader was not out for the kill, because he wanted Luke to join him.

A character with superior power/skill who is not trying to kill their opponent pretty much defines "holding back", no?
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on May 30th 2020, 9:12 pm
Maybe in My case i need to see a specific quote that dictates that besides that statement only says vader s skills we're greater than Luke by the time of ESB.
Galan007
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on May 30th 2020, 9:26 pm
@The lord of hunger wrote:besides that statement only says vader s skills we're greater than Luke by the time of ESB.
Skills AND power.

"Even though he had not completed his training, Luke rushed to Cloud City where he dueled Vader for the first time. Luke did not yet have enough experience to combat Vader's superior Force powers and lightsaber skills."
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on May 30th 2020, 9:29 pm
Well Even if that was the case i still see Luke facing vader more impressive than facing sod maul mainly becuase of scaling chains and so on
Galan007
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on May 30th 2020, 9:48 pm
You're welcome to your opinions.

But I still don't see how Luke's performance against Vader(who was explicitly more powerful/skilled, and actively not trying to kill him) translates into Luke being superior to Ahsoka?
The lord of hunger
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on May 30th 2020, 9:50 pm
Overall showings i guess
Galan007
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on May 30th 2020, 10:00 pm
What other showings does ESB Luke have that scale him to Ahsoka, though?

The only other high-end showing I can think of was when he shook a Star Destroyer with a TK wave -- but that was a one-off that happened in a moment of blind rage. Certainly nothing that Luke ever came close to duplicating as of ESB(he failed to lift an X-Wing in the film, remember.)

Is there other stuff I'm just not aware of?
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on May 30th 2020, 11:26 pm
as if Vader couldn't cream luke at any time on Bespin
Jedi_Jesus
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on June 2nd 2020, 10:23 am
Luke in all categories
xmysticgohanx
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on June 3rd 2020, 10:07 pm
They’re both in the same tier. I’d give it to Ahsoka extreme diff
Gianfi
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on June 4th 2020, 5:05 am
luke wins
Gianfi
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on June 4th 2020, 5:06 am
@Galan007 wrote:Vader was not trying to kill Luke -- he wanted Luke to join him.

Not sure how fighting an opponent who is intentionally holding back indicates that Luke is superior to Ahsoka..?
nor was Maul. Holding back Vader>Maul.
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