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Master Azronger
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on May 19th 2020, 9:32 am
The following individuals take turns running this gauntlet. The battlefield is an open field.

  • Exar Kun
  • Vitiate
  • Mace Windu
  • Luke Skywalker

THE GAUNTLET:
I. 2 average Jedi
II. 3 average Jedi
III. 5 average Jedi
IV. 7 average Jedi
V. 10 average Jedi
VI. 15 average Jedi
VII. 25 average Jedi
VIII. 40 average Jedi
IX. 70 average Jedi
X. 100 average Jedi
XI. 150 average Jedi
XII. 200 average Jedi
XIII. 250 average Jedi
XIV. 350 average Jedi
XV. 500 average Jedi
XVI. 700 average Jedi
XVII. 1000 average Jedi
XVIII. 1500 average Jedi
XIX. 2000 average Jedi
XX. 2500 average Jedi

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on May 19th 2020, 1:41 pm
For myself, I've specified "average Jedi" to an average NJO Jedi Knight.

Exar Kun - Stops at 15.
Novel Vitiate - Stops between 15 and 25.
Mace Windu - Stops between 25 and 40. 
Luke Skywalker - All I know for sure is that it's in the upper echelons. I'll tentatively say between 200 and 250 if he's going all out. Maybe more.
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on May 19th 2020, 1:45 pm
All clear Fodder Gauntlet 1076326320
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on May 19th 2020, 2:01 pm
what era are the jedi from?

If TOTJ Luke, Exar, vitiate, and Mace can all solo and clear

if KOTOR or TOR Mace or Luke can clear

if PT they die at around 100

if NJO they die about at as much as the PT
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on May 19th 2020, 2:03 pm
they all clear
xolthol
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on May 19th 2020, 5:42 pm
Kun: stop at 10 or 15
Vitiate: stop at 40
Windu: stop at 40
Luke: stop at 100
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on May 19th 2020, 5:55 pm
hmm this is kinda hard tbh. more or less all of them can easily one shot a normal jedi a push without much power behind it either. they are all far faster as well, much stronger, and have far more powers and skill with force. some of them can just mind rape some of the jedi to help them out (kun and vitiate, i believe, can also empower them as well). not to mention that some half of these guys have drain. luke and spirit kun clear. mace might have the lowest chance of clearing imo. vititate MIGHT clear if he uses everything i just mentioned above.
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on May 19th 2020, 6:28 pm
Ok when it starts getting into the double or triple digits, the only way anyone is gonna have a shot at clearing is just mind screwing. The Jedi can Battle-Meld and when that happens, all those Jedi are gonna be amping one another and becoming stronger as they are essentially fighting as one person and it only requires 3 to do so. Through The Force, they will be aware of the entire battle from each individual Jedi pooling their power.

This is only going to increase as the numbers do, by the time it really gets into the triple digits, that's probably gonna be extremely difficult for even Luke to deal with if he isn't going all out. So then you're figuring at this point, it's not 100 or 200 or whatever individual Jedi fighting, it's basically all of them as one singular individual, knowing everything and being able to see each and every attack coming.

Not taking into account that they pooling all of their combined power, could also lock them and use Sever Force.
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on May 19th 2020, 6:58 pm

  • Exar Kun: 30-40.

  • Vitiate: 40-50.

  • Mace Windu: 50-60.

  • Luke Skywalker: 80-100.


It all comes down to reserves and stamina. Luke is the most capable here in that regard whereas Mace's Vaapad and Force usage will drain him fairly quickly. Vitiate lacks the lightsaber skill to protect himself in CQC, where the Force can only do so much. Kun I'm not completely sure about.
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on May 19th 2020, 8:32 pm
Seeing how Ven Zallow handled some of the strongest 50 Sith Empire in Deceived and considering these 50 Sith should be significantly more powerful than an average Jedi, and also taking in consideration Vitiate one shotted the Dark Council in the past, I say he clears.
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on May 19th 2020, 8:55 pm
@TenebrousWay wrote:Seeing how Ven Zallow handled some of the strongest 50 Sith Empire in Deceived and considering these 50 Sith should be significantly more powerful than an average Jedi, and also taking in consideration Vitiate one shotted the Dark Council in the past, I say he clears.

How do you figure that? Also there's more than just 50 Jedi here. They also have advantages that the unsuspecting DC members didn't have, in this situation.
TenebrousWay
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on May 19th 2020, 10:14 pm
The gap between an average Jedi and a Dark Council member is too big. It's also a bit strange to consider that Sith planning a coup were completely clueless and unsuspecting.
In general, average mooks are buried too low on the scaling chain to even pose a threat. It's difficult to find a line where I can affirm "They can go up until here and not further.", because I don't see them posing a threat to Vitiate in any concrete mean.
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on May 19th 2020, 11:43 pm
@TenebrousWay wrote:The gap between an average Jedi and a Dark Council member is too big. It's also a bit strange to consider that Sith planning a coup were completely clueless and unsuspecting.
In general, average mooks are buried too low on the scaling chain to even pose a threat. It's difficult to find a line where I can affirm "They can go up until here and not further.", because I don't see them posing a threat to Vitiate in any concrete mean.

I mean sure on an individual basis that's fine, but there's strength in numbers. There comes a point where, that realistically numbers do start to matter and being able to pool all that power together should mean something.
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on May 20th 2020, 1:16 am
@Zenwolf

And where you draw the line when "much is too much"? Seeing what the upper echelons of TOR can do to the lower echelons (Marr "teleporting" and one shotting Lachris) and what these lower echelons can do to the average Sith/Jedi, I don't think it's particularly far fetched to assume Vitiate can clear.
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on May 20th 2020, 8:34 am
@TenebrousWay wrote:@Zenwolf

And where you draw the line when "much is too much"? Seeing what the upper echelons of TOR can do to the lower echelons (Marr "teleporting" and one shotting Lachris) and what these lower echelons can do to the average Sith/Jedi, I don't think it's particularly far fetched to assume Vitiate can clear.

What does Marr's teleporting have to do with combat applicable power?  Too much, I feel is when it starts getting into pass the 100-150+ mark and really into the 1000s+ mark. Plus Vitiate has never faced this many Force Users all at once, I can't think of anyone who really has.


Just because these are all named characters, doesn't mean that they can do anything and everything in a battle like this. I'll make it and give Vitiate the benefit of the doubt he can clear through the 100s, but honestly getting into the 1000s? Yeah I have a hard time even seeing Luke do that.
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on May 20th 2020, 11:08 am
I'm saying it on the interpretation that Marr was too fast for Lachris, not that he actually teleported, and that obviously has to do with combat applicable power. Regardless, like I said before, I can't see any threshold where there's a defined divide of "oh, they stop here" or "they are too much"
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on May 20th 2020, 11:55 am
All of this cancer Kun disrespect. Guy has drained armies, lmao.
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on May 20th 2020, 12:28 pm
@TenebrousWay wrote:I'm saying it on the interpretation that Marr was too fast for Lachris, not that he actually teleported, and that obviously has to do with combat applicable power. Regardless, like I said before, I can't see any threshold where there's a defined divide of "oh, they stop here" or "they are too much"

Well the thing of being too fast is most likely gonna be null and void here. If the Jedi start pooling their power in a Battlemind sort of thing, they are gonna be essentially fighting as one person, be able to know every attack and knowing the entire battlefield. It only takes 3 to do this, it only going up and up until all these high 100s and 1000s of Jedi are as one against this singular enemy. Not taking into account that some of these Jedi, are more than likely going to know the more powerful Force abilities just based on the logical amount there are here.

But anyway, alright I can see your opinion. I mean I can't really see the stopping, but I can't really see the clearing either.

Frankly, there's a TON of variables here.
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