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Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im Empty Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im

on June 7th 2019, 6:51 pm
sabers only
All out
Meatpants
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Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im Empty Re: Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im

on June 7th 2019, 6:54 pm
Depa
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Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im Empty Re: Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im

on June 7th 2019, 7:57 pm
Kas'im.
Meatpants
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on June 7th 2019, 8:06 pm
Reasons?
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Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im Empty Re: Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im

on June 7th 2019, 8:26 pm
Overall more impressed with Kas'im.
LSDMB
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Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im Empty Re: Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im

on June 7th 2019, 9:45 pm
I actually had a very lengthy debate on this once and my position hasn't changed, Kas'im.
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Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im Empty Re: Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im

on June 8th 2019, 12:21 am
Not really sure what Kas'im has except more experience?
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Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im Empty Re: Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im

on June 8th 2019, 12:46 am
@Meatpants wrote:Not really sure what Kas'im has except more experience?

"Instinctively" throwing up a Force shield that completely protected him from the Force wave that leveled the massive Rakatan temple superstructure (a temple that withstood orbital bombardment) is a far better feat than anything Depa has.
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Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im Empty Re: Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im

on June 8th 2019, 12:58 am
It's sabers only
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on June 8th 2019, 1:00 am
@Meatpants wrote:It's sabers only

There's an all-out round too, but while Depa is likely comparable to Kas'im in skill, superior Force power translates to superior aug and skill edges too.
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on June 8th 2019, 1:04 am
IIRC, the blast wasn't concentrated on Kas'im, but on the temple itself.
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Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im Empty Re: Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im

on June 8th 2019, 2:59 am
Depa.
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Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im Empty Re: Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im

on June 8th 2019, 7:54 am
Kas'im.
LSDMB
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Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im Empty Re: Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im

on June 8th 2019, 8:53 am
I mean I really wouldn't expect it to turn into a Force fight even in all out.
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on June 8th 2019, 9:24 am
Depa is hard to quantify since all we have is a hype and circumstantial showings. If we take Mace for his word she is at least comparable in blade work to TPM Mace which might put her above Kas'im. Beyond that I really don't know.
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on June 8th 2019, 10:22 am
Depa’s best accolade was her supposed parity/slight superiority to near-TPM Mace in regards to technical lightsaber skill. Based on this she should beat Kas’im but just looking at her feats, she doesn’t really compare.
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on June 8th 2019, 1:03 pm
@LSDMB wrote:I mean I really wouldn't expect it to turn into a Force fight even in all out.
@LSDMB Do you still think Kas'im can take TPM Maul?
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on June 8th 2019, 2:01 pm
Didn’t Depa learn Vaapad? It’s a variant of Juyo, which requires mastery of all previous forms to study. So Depa is by default a master of every form. I’d say Kas’im’s edge is experience, but Depa is likely more powerful honestly.
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Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im Empty Re: Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im

on June 8th 2019, 2:03 pm
@Meatpants wrote:Didn’t Depa learn Vaapad? It’s a variant of Juyo, which requires mastery of all previous forms to study. So Depa is by default a master of every form. I’d say Kas’im’s edge is experience, but Depa is likely more powerful honestly.
If anything, Depa is the more skilled I think . She has almost zero feats in force power.
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on June 8th 2019, 2:05 pm
@Meatpants wrote:Didn’t Depa learn Vaapad? It’s a variant of Juyo, which requires mastery of all previous forms to study. So Depa is by default a master of every form. I’d say Kas’im’s edge is experience, but Depa is likely more powerful honestly.

Kas'im is a confirmed master of every form as well. Not sure if you were implying an edge in that direction but I thought I'd mention it just in case. Depa may or may not be more powerful, I don't think we have enough data to make that determination in either way.
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on June 8th 2019, 2:17 pm
Well considering she was put on the council in her early twenties, and had mastered all the forms and was centred enough to learn Vaapad, she gains the likely edge in power imo.
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on June 9th 2019, 10:38 am
Kilius wrote:
@Meatpants wrote:Didn’t Depa learn Vaapad? It’s a variant of Juyo, which requires mastery of all previous forms to study. So Depa is by default a master of every form. I’d say Kas’im’s edge is experience, but Depa is likely more powerful honestly.

Kas'im is a confirmed master of every form as well. Not sure if you were implying an edge in that direction but I thought I'd mention it just in case. Depa may or may not be more powerful, I don't think we have enough data to make that determination in either way.
Oh no it gets wilder than that. It only took years for Kas'im to master every form, and then he spent decades past that point perfecting every single move and sequence of lightsaber combat that existed in his day.
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on June 9th 2019, 10:41 am
@Meatpants wrote:Well considering she was put on the council in her early twenties, and had mastered all the forms and was centred enough to learn Vaapad, she gains the likely edge in power imo.
I'm not really sure what you're saying here.
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on June 9th 2019, 11:16 am
@LSDMB

I never disputed that Kas'im likely has the edge in theoretical/practical knowledge; though to her credit Depa has mastered all seven forms and even Vaapad on top of that. What's more, she's considered powerful among the prime of the Jedi, she's likely more powerful than Kas'im IMO.
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Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im Empty Re: Depa Bilaba vs Kas'im

on June 9th 2019, 4:22 pm
@meatpants Being considered powerful amongst the prime of the jedi doesn't really mean she is more powerful than Kas'im.
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